also loved the layers of irony in Lane forging Don's signature
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 21 May 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link
?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 21 May 2012 16:02 (twelve years ago) link
seriously though if your job is to manage who comes in or out of the office and you just let anyone in, then that sort of means you're totally failing at your job.
― s.clover, Monday, 21 May 2012 16:03 (twelve years ago) link
forging the signature of a man who's signature itself is a fake/forgery
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 21 May 2012 16:04 (twelve years ago) link
yeah she could have asked "and this is concerning..."
but the guy just would have lied anyway.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 21 May 2012 16:05 (twelve years ago) link
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, May 21, 2012 11:04 AM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
that's a layer of irony, not layers of irony
unless lane pryce has also faked his identity. season-finale revelation!
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 21 May 2012 16:06 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W415wRfDUXY
― s.clover, Monday, 21 May 2012 16:06 (twelve years ago) link
ams: are you unaware that there are receptionists that actually manage to screen visitors? i mean, this actually happens.
― s.clover, Monday, 21 May 2012 16:07 (twelve years ago) link
― s.clover, Monday, May 21, 2012 11:07 AM (53 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
why are you being so condescending? oh wait, it's you. care to provide your flaky thoughts on the french cultural theorist du jour?
anyway, yes, i'm aware. it sounds like she just did a poor job of it, but those guys are experts at getting past secretaries. if she asked him his business, he'd probably say something that sounded perfectly legit.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 21 May 2012 16:09 (twelve years ago) link
ok, but did he have an appointment? i mean people can't just show up and say "hi" and not have appointments and then you don't buzz and ask somebody if they want to see this person or not and if they say "no" then you get that person escorted off the floor.
i mean yes, people will eventually get served, but not necessarily in the middle of the business day.
― s.clover, Monday, 21 May 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago) link
and in any case "but a more competent person might have failed also" is not an excuse for utter incompetence.
― s.clover, Monday, 21 May 2012 16:14 (twelve years ago) link
if i crash my car and i'm drunk and have no driver's license and also i was driving with my feet, i can't just plead "other people crash cars too!"
― s.clover, Monday, 21 May 2012 16:15 (twelve years ago) link
i don't really care very much about this.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 21 May 2012 16:20 (twelve years ago) link
you can fail @ your job w/o being assaulted iirc
― johnny crunch, Monday, 21 May 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
So ARE they setting us up for Don and Joan having a thing? Or was this episode as far as they'll take it?
Also, I feel like given the arc of the show, SCDP winning Jaguar is a remote contingency.
― America's Mobile, Monday, 21 May 2012 16:37 (twelve years ago) link
I can't see it. would be stupid to have a Roger-Joan-Don love triangle imho.
otoh things obviously not going so well with Megan so Don's bound to fuck that up and screw someone else at some point
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 21 May 2012 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
slamming airplanes on desks is the new shouting at people from cars.
― s.clover, Monday, 21 May 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
If Don cheats again, it won't be with Joan. They're sort of each other's "totem" (in Inception terms).
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 21 May 2012 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
If Don cheats, Megan will totally lose her shit.
― *tera, Monday, 21 May 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
in Inception terms
please to not use this phrase again
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 21 May 2012 17:52 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 21 May 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link
Harry actually being a stand-up guy. The wonders of this episode never cease.
Call me old fashioned but I don't really think that fucking the woman your friend is obviously completely in love with and then offering him a load of money to go to the other side of the country and pursue a pipedream of a career that he is obviously completely terrible at is much of a stand-up guy thing to do. Regardless as to how fucked up his situation was.
The Kinsey thing was alternately hilarious and deeply sad but I was overjoyed to see that character get a proper ending.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Monday, 21 May 2012 21:00 (twelve years ago) link
yeah I don't think Harry did anything remotely commendable, but he was less of an amorphous blob in this episode. Offering Kinsey the money to go to LA was at least showing some initiative/creative problem solving
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 21 May 2012 21:05 (twelve years ago) link
Kinsey's "no one likes me" monologue was really moving, I thought. really nailed the pathos of someone completely adrift
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 21 May 2012 21:06 (twelve years ago) link
The season overall has been the most anthology-like the series has been I think. Seems like this episode set us up for a bit of a Jaguar-focused arc through to the end of the season.
― raw feel vegan (silby), Monday, 21 May 2012 21:07 (twelve years ago) link
culminating in Pete having a car crash, presumably
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 21 May 2012 21:11 (twelve years ago) link
lol at that girlfriend's "he can really close". Giving Kinsey a bit of confidence and the opportunity for a fresh start without his life being sucked out by the girlfriend and the Hare Kirshnas was about the best thing he could have done.
also lol at "you've already traded that." or whatever he said. Great delivery.
― Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Monday, 21 May 2012 21:12 (twelve years ago) link
I didn't get why she didn't threaten to blackmail him
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 21 May 2012 21:13 (twelve years ago) link
or I guess just blackmail him, no need for threats lol
perhaps Kinsey will refine his script
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 21 May 2012 21:16 (twelve years ago) link
Shakey did the research I thought I was going to have to do :) I vaguely remembered this episode and wondered if it ad a similar storyline.
― *tera, Monday, 21 May 2012 21:45 (twelve years ago) link
one of my favorite OST episodes, not least because of the ridiculously heavy-handed metaphor, which even so is less clunky than Kinsey's "Negron Complex" concept
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 21 May 2012 21:52 (twelve years ago) link
I think it's only happened a couple other times, but when Don and Joan are together just being Don and Joan it's one of the best parts of the series.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, May 21, 2012 5:28 AM (18 hours ago)
Oh yes, so nice that the two massively attractive TV characters can just talk, with barely a smidgen of will they/won't they (barely. And they won't).
it occurs to me that christina hendricks is a good actress.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf
This occurred to me in the first season.
So many hearty laughs from the return of Kinsey - he's a Hari Krishna! He's written a spec episode for fucking Star Trek!
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 00:05 (twelve years ago) link
I'm still a bit narky about the absolute ludicrousness of all English accents that pop up in this show.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 00:17 (twelve years ago) link
hendricks has taken a turn for the much better on the acting front this season
― phooey and nuts and phooey (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 00:25 (twelve years ago) link
she's always been good. she's probably the best actor on the show with anything do do.
― jed_, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 00:50 (twelve years ago) link
there are other good actors, like robert morse/bert cooper, but we don't see much of them.
― jed_, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 00:51 (twelve years ago) link
btw i couldn't make out the note on joan's flowers.
― jed_, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 00:54 (twelve years ago) link
They were from Don - "Your mother trained you well" or some such.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 00:58 (twelve years ago) link
signed, Ali khan
― he bit me (it felt like a diss) (m bison), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 01:08 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, at the bar she said something like "My mother trained me to be irresistible" or something like that.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 03:37 (twelve years ago) link
pretty great episode! everything about harry and kinsey was hilarious and sad.
kind of dreading any financial shenanigans plot bullshit going forward tho
― goole, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 03:43 (twelve years ago) link
why so? seems pretty well motivated given what we know of lane's situation and character.
― spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 03:44 (twelve years ago) link
― America's Mobile, Monday, May 21, 2012 11:37 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i didnt get the impression they were implying this at all. the dialogue was more about don having a fight of self-determination v. fate iirc, & ends w him driving a car really really fast
i rewound that convo she & he had to rewatch to try to better understand their diff perspectives on the cheating spouse
― littledotheyknow (D-40), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 09:09 (twelve years ago) link
Is staying with the Hare Krishnas necessarily any better than heading off to LA and facing almost certain failure at being a scriptwriter? Dude seemed in a pretty vulnerable state and that's hardly going to help from what I can see. Peggy was probably OTM earlier in the episode.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 09:22 (twelve years ago) link
LA in the mid-late 60s -- so many more fun cults he could join!
― sarahell, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 09:25 (twelve years ago) link
Is staying with the Hare Krishnas necessarily any better than heading off to LA and facing almost certain failure at being a scriptwriter?
yeah i can easily see kinsey panhandling on the streets of hollywood in a few years (or months). when his "screenwriting" ambitions turn up nothing, does he seem grounded enough to like get a job as a waiter or something?
he'll probably end up hanging out with charles manson and dennis wilson.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 09:28 (twelve years ago) link
peggy was great!
― goole, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 13:58 (twelve years ago) link
That could be her in three years, so the smugness about Kinsey's downfall was nagl I thought.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 14:11 (twelve years ago) link