Scottish things and people that I like

There's more linguistic, grammatical and vocabulary evidence - as well as historical - that English and Scots are different languages than, say, Swedish and Norwegian.

x-post, I am such a linguistic pedant, sigh.

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I can't see any real grammatical difference at all, based on the page linked to above. It's just spelling and the odd bit of vocabulary.

Yes, all that is true. But why the but? Let them!

x-post: Saying that Scots is a dialect of English kind of sounds like "well English was here first and the Scots just starting speaking it all weird". Of course, I don't think that.

Yes. Reading Tore Janson's book about language Speak, one of the things that struck me was how important this aspect is, how when nation/empire building, stamping out regional dialects/languages in a draconian way often does achieve its aim, even in the long-term. Without it, countries do fail to gel as nations. I often get all confused about where my sympathies lie when it comes to nationalism.

You forgot the one about coming in pissed and switching on your PC first before even considering the kettle/toaster.

(when I met Ned, I introduced myself by asking him if he had a blue tie. He quickly realised it was me.)

I was just going to cite them! Even (especially?) their English member.

I love this thread.

Also there is the possibility that I will just eat them all myself.

I noticed upthread that I was going to tell the story of my flatmates being in the Sunday Post. They were in a band, and wanted some publicity. They therefore went to the Sunday Post with a ridiculous story of how they met their drummer - he had come round to audition for the band and had looked through the singer's tape collection and found a demo tape from a previous band of his there which, suprise, had been given to the singer by a friend of a friend and had become a big favourite of his, and he'd always wanted to meet the people responsible. And now he had, and now they're in a band together.

This story, incidentally, does not have one iota of truth to it. Yet there it was in the centre pages of the Sunday Post alongside other heartwarming tales of hillwalking dogs and marathon running lollipop ladies.

In other exciting news, you can read Francis Gay online!. There's something not quite right about the Sunday Post being on teh interweb, but I like that their website is reassuringly pish.

Tell me about it, I've eaten 6 myself since Thursday night.

I have a friend who was also involved in a fake Sunday Post centre page story. Three times. It was quite lucrative, letting Little Old Ladies laugh at the Youth Of Today.

R.I.P. Ivor Cutler

The trailer features Dominik Diamond - for one glorious moment I thought Aldo had had his hair cut and had been drafted in as a talking head following the powers-that-be at the BBC reading this thread. Sadly not.

(that rant about plain bread still makes me weep helpless tears of laughter every time I read it).

No Irvine Welsh on this thread - does everyone hate him the noo?