According to Lawrie, he left the food court 10 seconds before the shooting; if that's accurate, I guess I can see why his proximity has been a story, especially on a site like CNN/SI that has no special attachment to the city (and is, after all, a sports site). But no, it shouldn't overshadow actual victims; my own sense is that it hasn't, but maybe you've encountered coverage I haven't.
― clemenza, Monday, 4 June 2012 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
Over in Seattle, it's been a grim thing to watch my FB feeds this past week. Everyone I know in Seattle seems to have known the people who were killed at Cafe Racer.
― but he go's to a resturang and then die in a toilet (Jon Lewis), Monday, 4 June 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
Just the Star, the Sun, TSN and CBC xpost
― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 4 June 2012 21:48 (twelve years ago) link
Actually, I guess it's not so strange if Lawrie's a bigger celebrity than I realized. I never heard of him until the helmet/umpire thing last month (don't follow baseball)
― Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 4 June 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link
I went to the Racer Sessions memorial last night, there were hundreds of people there. Basically everyone who wandered into Cafe Racer at some point remembered one of the victims. Even my dad, who had been there twice, remembered that he had asked Drew what card game he was playing, and he had offered to teach him then and there.
― JoeStork, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 00:17 (twelve years ago) link
http://gothamist.com/2012/08/24/five_shot_outside_empire_state_buil.php
I was @ herald square at 9 am. heard nothing.
― iatee, Friday, 24 August 2012 13:41 (eleven years ago) link
u might be dead :(
― lag∞n, Friday, 24 August 2012 13:43 (eleven years ago) link
BTW, blows my mind that the most severe punishment Norway can give for that psycho who killed 77 people is just 21 years in prison.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 August 2012 14:14 (eleven years ago) link
He'll be out when he's 54!
― how's life, Friday, 24 August 2012 14:15 (eleven years ago) link
I heard law in Norway specifies it is possible for a judge to extend the sentence if it is ruled he is still a danger to society after the sentence is up, and he had said he would do it again.
― Evan, Friday, 24 August 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link
See, that's the justification for life in prison: when is a guy who killed 77 men, women and children in cold, racist blood not a danger to society? You can't rehabilitate that.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 24 August 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I agree that it's kind of nuts to not initially get the highest of sentences in any court system.
― Evan, Friday, 24 August 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link
Yes, NPR news just now said Norway's preventive detention law means "he'll never be released", hope that's right.
― dow, Friday, 24 August 2012 14:26 (eleven years ago) link
um:
http://gawker.com/5937573/breaking-reports-of-mass-shooting-near-empire-state-building?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_twitter&utm_source=gawker_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
― Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 24 August 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link
Shooter Identified as Jeffrey Johnson, 53, at Mayor’s News Conference
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 August 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link
The two law enforcement officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to publicly discuss the matter. They said the gunman previously worked at a store inside the landmark skyscraper.
Restaurants & Bars Location Chipotle West 34th Street The Empire Room West 33rd Street Heartland Brewery West 33rd Street Rosa's Pizza West 33rd Street Lobby Starbucks West 34th Street Retailers Location AT&T West 34th Street Choice Forex, Inc., Currency Exchange West 33rd Street Federal Express West 33rd Street Finesse Jewelers West 33rd Street Kinko's West 33rd Street Louis' Shoe Repair West 33rd Street Men's Wearhouse West 34th Street Perfumania West 34th Street Strawberry West 34th Street Walgreens West 34th Street
My money's on Men's Wearhouse.
― A cuddle nuvvie squee shooting. Great. (how's life), Friday, 24 August 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link
The suspect, Johnson, had worked for about six years as a women's clothing designer at Hazan Imports. Johnson lost his job at the business, near the Empire State Building, about a year ago.
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Friday, 24 August 2012 15:51 (eleven years ago) link
shit.
― A cuddle nuvvie squee shooting. Great. (how's life), Friday, 24 August 2012 15:53 (eleven years ago) link
"He'll be out when he's 54!"
He's never getting out.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Friday, 24 August 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link
"Bloomberg says he's not sure if the construction worker who tipped off the cops is a hetero. "I don't know. We all use the word 'hetero.'"
― Earth, Wind & Fire & Alabama (Eazy), Friday, 24 August 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link
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what the fuck is wrong with u ppl
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Friday, 24 August 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link
for a year now it has been made abundantly clear that the cunt is almost certainly never going to be released, whatever the court ruled
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Friday, 24 August 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
people in not reading the whole thread SHOCKER
― one dis leads to another (ian), Friday, 24 August 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
what the fuck is wrong with you, nilmar?
― A cuddle nuvvie squee shooting. Great. (how's life), Friday, 24 August 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.theonion.com/articles/nation-celebrates-full-week-without-deadly-mass-sh,29293/
― am0n, Friday, 24 August 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link
Meanwhile, not literally a "mass shooting" but http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/24/chicago-shootings-19-woun_n_1827530.html?utm_hp_ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false#slide=1425105
― look at this quarterstaff (Hurting 2), Friday, 24 August 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link
ughhttp://gma.yahoo.com/jersey-shopping-plaza-shootout-leaves-several-dead-110051705--abc-news-topstories.html
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Friday, 31 August 2012 16:44 (eleven years ago) link
Brookfield, Wisconsin
http://www.wisn.com/news/At-least-7-people-transported-to-hospital-after-shooting-near-mall/-/9373668/17074464/-/sh5y52/-/index.html#ixzz29xCIxitr
― WilliamC, Sunday, 21 October 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link
This shit is getting too commonplace
― Raymond Cummings, Sunday, 21 October 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link
"Not secured" means gunman on the loose, right?
Once was too commonplace for this shit.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 October 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/multiple-victims-shot-near-brookfield-square-le7a3b4-175147441.html
A short time later, Gosh said, a large black man with a handgun ran out and appeared to be chasing the girl. However, police began arriving, and when the gunman saw police he ran back into the building - or perhaps into the woods behind the building, where Westmoor Country Club is located....They were looking for a black male, 6 feet 1 inch and about 270 pounds, who may be driving a black Mazda. Scanner traffic indicated he may have left the area after the Goshes saw him, although that was not clear.
― pretty even gender split (Eazy), Sunday, 21 October 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link
But at least
Four people are in the Froedtert Hospital emergency room being evaluated, and none are in critical condition, hospital officials said.
― pretty even gender split (Eazy), Sunday, 21 October 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link
was he disgruntled
― (╯︵╰,) RIP (am0n), Sunday, 21 October 2012 21:47 (eleven years ago) link
could have been avoided if he had a two-parent home
― Mansplains Drifter (Gukbe), Sunday, 21 October 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link
The most pointed bit in last night's SNL debate opening was the woman who asked what they planned to do about assault weapons. Romney: "Nothing." Obama: "Nothing."
― clemenza, Sunday, 21 October 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link
http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/544/article/p2p-73696177/
― Jeff, Friday, 14 December 2012 17:04 (eleven years ago) link
In The Myth of Martyrdom, author Lankford, a criminal justice professor at the University of Alabama, rejects the prevailing view of suicide terrorists as radicalized individuals who will do anything for a cause. Rather, he asserts, they are merely unhappy, damaged individuals who want to die. Terrorist organizations recruit people who are in desperate straits for suicide missions and call them martyrs, and we have bought into their propaganda.Citing recent research, including evaluations of preemptively arrested suicide terrorists, Lankford argues that the psychological profiles of self-destructive killers, whether underwear bombers or school shooters, are not so different from those of the 34,000 Americans who commit suicide every year, burdened by mental illness, social isolation, and personal and professional failures. Underneath the political rhetoric in suicide letters, martyrdom videos and testimonies of grieving family and friends, Lankford finds evidence of deep psychological pain. The young mother who blows herself up in a crowd, for instance, turns out to be escaping the shame of an adulterous affair.http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=mind-reviews-the-myth-of-martyrdom-what-really-drives-suicide-bombers-rampage-shooters
Citing recent research, including evaluations of preemptively arrested suicide terrorists, Lankford argues that the psychological profiles of self-destructive killers, whether underwear bombers or school shooters, are not so different from those of the 34,000 Americans who commit suicide every year, burdened by mental illness, social isolation, and personal and professional failures. Underneath the political rhetoric in suicide letters, martyrdom videos and testimonies of grieving family and friends, Lankford finds evidence of deep psychological pain. The young mother who blows herself up in a crowd, for instance, turns out to be escaping the shame of an adulterous affair.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=mind-reviews-the-myth-of-martyrdom-what-really-drives-suicide-bombers-rampage-shooters
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 22 January 2013 19:43 (eleven years ago) link
so this isn't about the Texas college shooting? (thankfully it appears that nobody is dead)
― frogbs, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 19:47 (eleven years ago) link
Not sure if a one man spree but this sounds crazy:http://news.yahoo.com/police-5-dead-shooting-south-seattle-081054003.html
― Z S up HOOS down (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 06:13 (eleven years ago) link
Damn, that's a ton of comments
― Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 10:50 (eleven years ago) link
a ton of racist comments!
― how's life, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 11:04 (eleven years ago) link
You can't say "racist", it's racist.
― not_goodwin, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 12:33 (eleven years ago) link
ugh, it wasn't a drug thing, it was a domestic violence incident which escalated when neighbors came out to see wtf was going on.
― kate78, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 17:22 (eleven years ago) link
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/26/18517847-two-dead-five-injured-including-sheriff-in-two-county-texas-shooting-spree?lite
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Monday, 27 May 2013 06:38 (eleven years ago) link
^^^I just got to work after the 3 day weekend and just found out my coworker, one of the people on my 4 person team, was one of the people shot in this. I am in shock. I cannot fucking believe it. She is going to live, in fact she will get out of the hospital today, so she is very lucky, but she was shot sideways through the mouth so I quail at the thought of what recovery will entail for her. She is the nicest, smartest, toughest person. She had just climbed out of the Grand Canyon on a hiking trip when it happened. What the fuck.
― 2 huxtables and a sousaphone (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 14:21 (eleven years ago) link
Damn, sorry to hear. That's crazy
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 14:23 (eleven years ago) link
The shooter was a marine who'd deployed twice to afghanistan. My teammate was the first person he shot in this spree, apparently. Well, other than the woman he murdered before he left his base in NC...
http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/28/us/texas-marine-fatal-shooting-spree/index.html
― 2 huxtables and a sousaphone (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 16:26 (eleven years ago) link
omg whoai heard about this on the radio this morning but came in mid-story so i didn't get a lot of the original detailsi don't even know what to say
― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it's like how are we supposed to work today exactly?
― 2 huxtables and a sousaphone (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
she knows martial arts. I wished she had had an opportunity to knock this asshole's fucking head off before he shot at her car.
― 2 huxtables and a sousaphone (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 16:42 (eleven years ago) link