I think it's fine to anticipate Wes Anderson's Moonrise Kingdom

it was so great!

What else Wes Anderson didn't take from John Duigan's "Flirting" for Rushmore he put to use here. It seems to secretly be a touchstone for him. (probably a reason the lead actor in Flirting, Noah Taylor, was cast in "Life Aquatic")

W.A. finally just goes out and sets a film, literally, in the sixties; the forbidden romance between the two youngsters is similar, as well as the, er, (spoiler!) love-scene.

If you smashed "Moonrise" and "Rushmore" together you'd get that 1990 Australian movie starring Nicole Kidman, yeah.

in an interview i read with him circa rushmore he says he originally wanted to cast noah taylor in rushmore

i'm so looking forward to going to see this by myself. seeing wes anderson movies alone is the best.

So is seeing any movie alone. People ruin things.

Huh, I loved Flirting when I saw it at age 13, but I never would've made the Anderson connection.

That awkward school dance scene between Noah Taylor and Thandie Newton, taking place in 1965 and playing the Trogg's "A Girl Like You," that's couldn't be more proto-WA.

Bruce Willis as sad old man/young old bill murray

Has anyone on ILX besides me seen CQ? Serious question. Look to CQ and the idle internet musings that Roman actually directed everything for Sophia pre-Marie Antoinette.

Anyway I'm willing to accept RC as WA's new OW.

The small-time stop motion/cut-paper sfx I could do without but the spirit is there. I think the talk of MK being WA's pure FNW is kind of over stated bc as a director he's clearly taking things he's learned since FMF and brought them the live action fold in a way that Tim Burton wishes he did.

IDK i feel like in spite of TLA and DL wes anderson is still probably the best US filmmmaker working today in terms of the dual qualifications of prolificness and quality of material divided by the amount of self-parody < /marty >

What else... idk I liked it plenty but I wanted to take a girl to see it and I didn't because no one would go w/ me so here I am. If my viewing experience were different I might approach this movie differently

Also I don't recall what I meant when I said FNW so w/e

oh FRENCH NEW WAVE

Look to CQ and the idle internet musings that Roman actually directed everything for Sophia pre-Marie Antoinette.

what the hell?!? who says this?

longstanding internet rumor that RC was the brains behind everything good that SC has done. He was 1st AD on all of it.

That seems pretty baseless imo. CQ was totally different in tone than any of her films, and being a Coppola he could've gotten his own projects greenlighted without much effort.

sounds like classic internet forum misogynist bullshit.

given that she's directed more films than he has, you'd wonder why the rumor doesn't go the other way around. except that you don't have to wonder why, because so much of what ppl write and say about sofia coppola is riddled with the same kind of barely veiled sexism. armond white's review of 'somewhere' was an especially bad example, not that he's much above the level of any random anonymous internet commentator as a writer or thinker tbh.

gubke and J.D. otm

fuck a "longstanding internet rumor". as though everyone involved with SC's films would maintain this ridiculous conspiracy of silence about the fact that roman secretly directed them from the DP's chair. all while he let his own directorial career slide. horseshit. he made CQ, and no one cared.

while looking around for info on roman's charles swan iii flick, i did find what seem to be three viral sites...

a fan page about the mysterious artist "charles swan iii": http://swanworld.8m.com/index.htm
a blog entry containing art and video samples: http://www.laboca.co.uk/blog/tag/charles-swan-iii/
a notice about a show at a japanese art gallery (apparently on the tom of finland foundation site's events list!): http://tomoffinlandfoundation.org/foundation/Events/ev_2006_08_09_YosakaGallery_CharlesSwanIII.htm

there are three rather nsfwy videos on youtube, all linked one way or another in the above. oddly, the videos appear to have been posted in 2006.

oops

speaking of misogynists, CSIII to be charlie sheen's comeback role: he plays the title character

That awkward school dance scene between Noah Taylor and Thandie Newton, taking place in 1965 and playing the Trogg's "A Girl Like You," that's couldn't be more proto-WA.
― Cunga, Friday, June 15, 2012 1:40 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there's a beautiful scene in claire denis's TV film "US go home" that also has characters dancing to this song, to beautiful effect.

two more thoughts:

1) can you guys stop using so many acronyms?

2) c.q. was a few funny sketches and clever art direction in search of a movie. i'm not too fond of sofia coppola's films either, but i have a weird kind of respect for marie antoinette.

2) i saw this (moonrise kingdom). it was spectacular. more later i hope.

i mean three more thoughts. i always end up adding a thought or two.

2) c.q. was a few funny sketches and clever art direction in search of a movie.

this. those rumours are total horseshit

marie antoinette is the only sofia movie i'm enthusiastic about, roman should have stopped shadow directing earlier, maybe taken some time off to write to kill a mockingbird w/ his dick

morbz otm about seeing movies alone

i still want to see this! i saw they're using that Bill Murray Introduces The Actors clip for TV ads; i kinda liked that.

I went to see this and the picture went ten minutes before the end. It was enjoyable up to that point

CQ was crap! never heard those rumors. fuckin internet.

i saw they're using that Bill Murray Introduces The Actors clip for TV ads; i kinda liked that.

― a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Saturday, June 16, 2012 10:51 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha that's great. i have to think his movies have had a stable audience now, ads are a matter of 'base activation'

i snuck into this (maybe missed the first 5 min) after i saw 'thats my boy' (v bad btw)

it's cute idk
the scene on the beach w/ the dance & i guess the scene w/ willis & the kid in his kitchen are the only ones i really loved

yeah, that's about right. It was definitely better than Life Aquatic and Darjeeling if only because it wasn't so oppressively Andersonian (the less obvious soundtrack helped in this regard) but there's just something missing in his films these days. Comedy mainly

roman should have stopped shadow directing earlier, maybe taken some time off to write to kill a mockingbird w/ his dick

― a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Saturday, June 16, 2012 11:51 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

<3

ha that's great. i have to think his movies have had a stable audience now, ads are a matter of 'base activation'

― goole, Saturday, June 16, 2012 4:10 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think this movie is reaching people who maybe aren't big wes anderson fans? it's doing spectacularly well, to the point that its release date around here was moved up two weeks.

the "defloration" scene was incredible. i know that sounds bad, but see it.

I really liked this. More so than I thought I would for some reason.

jason schwartzman was funny and i wanted more jason schwartzman

― phantompenguin, Sunday, June 10, 2012 10:46 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

YES. He is hilarious.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5zyueWSVb1qzspj4o1_500.gif

The girl who plays Suzy looks not entirely dissimilar from pictures I have seen of my wife at that age.

jaymc in theater:

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/005/650/weirdestboner.jpg

the guy i was sitting next to in the theater was laughing at every scene, like regardless of whether there was actually any joke or even visual gag just cracking up at like, the way the shots were framed or some shit??? this weird guttural, clucking laugh if you can imagine that, just dreadful

Saw this in a tiny "arthouse" theater on Saturday with a full-house mob of people roughly my own age. Which is Anderson's age, give or take a couple years, so no real surprise that he's pulling a less-than-youthful crowd. Loved it to death, easily my favorite American film of the year, so far. It may not quite measure up to Rushmore and The Royal Tenenbaums (I'll have to let it sit awhile and rewatch it a couple times before I can say for sure), but it's not far shy of that mark.

My biggest criticism is that during the 20 minutes, prior to the halfway-point beach dance/makeout scene, I was starting to get a little bored. I wouldn't call Jared Gilman a bad actor, but his delivery is so intentionally flat and affected that it's hard to see any real, human personality behind Sam Shakusky's words and behavior. To the extent that the film focuses on Sam's interactions with the similarly disaffected Suzy, this opacity begins becomes a little frustrating. The film tells us that the kids like each other, that they have certain interests and tics, but those qualities seem attached to rather than expressed by their performances. Anyway, that all evaporates during what amateurist called the "'defloration' scene", and everything after that just roars.

Was personally struck by the film's use of nostalgic camp imagery. By "camp" I mean of a specifically northeastern lakeside summer vacation culture. Appropriated Indian names and symbols, canoes (especially birch), self-reliance, rugged boyhood, handheld weapons, scouting and merit badges, log cabins, zealous mental moral and physical hygiene, "summer places", leisure, implicit wealth, etc. A kind of lost Eden; Teddy Roosevelt shit as handed down and remembered by the well-to-do in Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire and demenses. I grew up with that, and have been fascinated by its cross-country spread over the last few decades. The LL Bean catalog has a lot to do with it, I suppose. And it fits well with the turn towards the folky, acoustic and nostalgic in American indie culture over the last decade. Not so long ago, a trendy menswear & accessories shop in Seattle opened a sister brother store dedicated to stylishly old-fashioned camp & camping accoutrements. Duckboots, Filson, fly fishing, elevation maps, thick woolen sweaters and wicker knapsacks. It was short-lived, but now I'm thinking they just jumped the gun by a year or two.

...during the 20 minutes, prior to the halfway-point beach dance...

uh, strike that comma

i reread the whole thing without the comma--post is still too long

rmsht

^^much better

cold comfort

the guy i was sitting next to in the theater was laughing at every scene, like regardless of whether there was actually any joke or even visual gag just cracking up at like, the way the shots were framed or some shit??? this weird guttural, clucking laugh if you can imagine that, just dreadful

I think we were in the same theater. Like the laugh track from Everybody Loves Raymond or something. It was so off-putting I went to see it again yesterday. Much better.

fwiw i really liked reading your post. will maybe see this again tomorrow. if i get enough work done today.

thanks

this reminded me so much of romantic fantasies i had as a kid

bruce willis was really killing it in the scene where he and sam share a beer. they both were, actually. so amazing.

this reminded me so much of romantic fantasies i had as a kid

― carly rae (flopson), Monday, June 25, 2012 9:36 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wes anderson has owned up to it being an extrapolation from one such fantasy.