He's always been crap when he's not scoring goals
― Number None, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
-IK - yes, Ukraine! I knew there was another one.
― windborne grey frogs (dowd), Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
granted I've been flipping channels but I didn't realise RVP was even on until just now
― jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
So gorgeous from Portugal
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
where's van persie even playing? i've seen him more in defence than anywhere else.
― Merdeyeux, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
also, ronaldo is quite good.
only turns up against the shit teams tbf
― Number None, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:33 (twelve years ago) link
Almost Francelike from the Dutch.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:35 (twelve years ago) link
I'm wondering if a Germany-Portugal final might be a shout?
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:38 (twelve years ago) link
dunno, portugal playing against a team with no midfield tonight and not as strong at the back this tourney as I expected.
― pandemic, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
van marwijk is a reet
huntelaar was toilet, rvp wasted on the wing second half, sneijder shoved out to the left in the first (being able to cut in from the left does not = inside forward)
there was about 30 yards between the midfield and forwards the whole time
so bad
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
OTM
― HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
lol Chiles accusing Keano of 'man love' for Ronaldo
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i'm surprised he managed a half smile after that
it's true though, when he isn't play for real madrid ronaldo can be great to watch
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:46 (twelve years ago) link
For Holland it was a case of old habits coming back...Portugal look good but hard to tell with what they had to play with.
Probably edge the Czechs.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:47 (twelve years ago) link
The look of unadulterated hate on Keane's face at that point was highly amusing.
Both Portugal and Germany look like shoo-ins for the semis really. Holland = wastemen.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:48 (twelve years ago) link
indeed
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:50 (twelve years ago) link
agger was great in all 3 games.
i liked roy keane calling out carra's 'nonsense' re. his views on ronaldo.
― Chris, Sunday, 17 June 2012 20:54 (twelve years ago) link
Ooh, MLS on ESPN!
― William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 17 June 2012 21:01 (twelve years ago) link
Wait, since when were you over here? I miss these things sometimes.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 June 2012 21:33 (twelve years ago) link
(the UK variant of ESPN)
― William Bloody Swygart, Sunday, 17 June 2012 21:56 (twelve years ago) link
Clarity.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 June 2012 21:56 (twelve years ago) link
i hope nigel de jong told raul meireles to go get his trucker cap after he flattened him that time
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 June 2012 22:11 (twelve years ago) link
Two journalists asked the Dutch coach the same question after the match:
TV guy Jack (who didn't ask the previous coach after a lost game this question and then that coach announced he quit to another journalist, minutes later) : "and now, can you stay on as coach?"
Van Marwijk: "jack, don't ask me that, ten minutes after a game like this"
Press conference, half an hour later, other Dutch dude: "can you stay on as the coach of this team now?"
Van Marwijk: "your friend Jack already asked me that - or isn't he your friend? Oh yeah, you don't have a lot of those, do you"
(ok, it's sad and painful and stuff, but this was funny)
― StanM, Sunday, 17 June 2012 22:38 (twelve years ago) link
the previous dutch coach was marco van basten, though
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Sunday, 17 June 2012 22:40 (twelve years ago) link
a previous coach, then. That wasn't the detail I remembered, sorry
― StanM, Sunday, 17 June 2012 22:54 (twelve years ago) link
(It was probably a player who quit, even. The point is, that was his justification: last time I didn't ask this question and the scoop went to another journalist, minutes after my interview)
― StanM, Sunday, 17 June 2012 23:04 (twelve years ago) link
raul meireles just doesn't have the legs to pull off the baggy shorts look.
― Chris, Sunday, 17 June 2012 23:16 (twelve years ago) link
What I thought was more interesting about the post-match interviews of Holland was:
- The same Jack StanM mentions (a dinosaur Dutch footy presenter) had declared on "reliable sources" that the Dutch medical staff member got into a fight with one of the players, as in a fist-fight. Said doctos rushed to the studio in a fury to deny it. So it's probably true.- Robben admitting "things happened that should remain untold and secret" in the squad- Sneijder and Van Persie wanting to kill each other again.
I for one can't wait for the documentary in ten years.
― HO WBEAUTIFUL IS THE GENTLYFALLINGBLOOD? (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 18 June 2012 00:26 (twelve years ago) link
so if i have this right, for group C:
Italy need to win to get even a placeIf Croatia and Spain draw, Italy need to win by 3 goals?
If Croatia win, Italy need to win by 5 goals?
If Spain win, Italy just need a win
Yes?
― PSOD (Ste), Monday, 18 June 2012 08:24 (twelve years ago) link
ugh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2012#Group_stage
― caek, Monday, 18 June 2012 08:37 (twelve years ago) link
if croatia draw 0-0 and italy win 2-0 then they are level on GD and goals scored, which means italy go through because they have a higher uefa ranking. same if croatia draw 1-1 and italy win 3-1, croatia draw 2-2, italy win 4-2, etc.
i think.
― caek, Monday, 18 June 2012 08:41 (twelve years ago) link
No xp, an Italy win puts them through unless Spain and Croatia draw 2-2 or higher
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 08:41 (twelve years ago) link
am i reading those rules right: the game between the two teams is the first tie-breaker, then GD. and isn't it usually the other way around?
― caek, Monday, 18 June 2012 08:43 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah the game between the two is the tie-breaker. It's how Greece went through.
― Matt DC, Monday, 18 June 2012 08:45 (twelve years ago) link
Can someone explain the 2-2 draw thing though? Would Spain and Croatia go through on goals scored? What happens if Italy put seven or eight past Ireland?
― Matt DC, Monday, 18 June 2012 08:48 (twelve years ago) link
No matter how big a win against the Irish, a 2-2 draw (or higher score draw) in the other group game between Spain and Croatia will ensure the Italians head home early - this because head-to-head records come into play when two or more countries finish level on points. Italy's 1-1 draw with both nations would therefore be seen as the weaker result.
― caek, Monday, 18 June 2012 08:54 (twelve years ago) link
special rules for 3-way tie
there is a table here http://www.goal.com/en/news/2898/euro-2012/2012/06/18/3177953/euro-2012-group-c-permutations-italy-must-avoid-the-curse-of-2-2-
― caek, Monday, 18 June 2012 08:58 (twelve years ago) link
It'd be a three-way head-to-head is the way to look at it. Italy currently have two 1-1s, Spain and Croatia have one each. That's why a 2-2 tonight puts them both through.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 09:02 (twelve years ago) link
Would like Italy to go through but would also like Ireland to win the game. Hmmm.
― Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Monday, 18 June 2012 09:08 (twelve years ago) link
You could always cheer loudly for Spain & Croatia to field ineligible players.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 18 June 2012 09:19 (twelve years ago) link
can't wait for germany vs greece. batter of the euro, 2012
― Rosie 47 (ken c), Monday, 18 June 2012 09:51 (twelve years ago) link
battle
euro in batter
― ooooiiiioooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaoooooh un - bi - leevable! (LocalGarda), Monday, 18 June 2012 11:54 (twelve years ago) link
platini wieners in blatter batter
― Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Monday, 18 June 2012 12:00 (twelve years ago) link
batter the neville you know
― give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Monday, 18 June 2012 12:02 (twelve years ago) link
croatia and spain are my favourite sides
hopefully they draw 2-2 and italy lose to ireland
― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 12:10 (twelve years ago) link
FIRST
― Mexès Coleslaw Massacre (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 June 2012 13:26 (twelve years ago) link
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― dis civilization and its contents (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 June 2012 14:03 (twelve years ago) link