I think it's fine to anticipate Wes Anderson's Moonrise Kingdom

that opening scene alone was worth the price of admission

has anyone posted this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=U9wvsiE6RJA

they should've used this in the promo poster: http://cdn.nahright.com/news/m.php/2012/06/rocky-lana.jpg

(asap rocky and lana del rey, the irl sam and suzy)

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Cray-cray subtitles in that vid Mordy

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One of my fb friends said it was shot in "instagram".

yeah, i described it as "the instagram movie" on the way out

I thought this was really something, though it may take a while for me to unpack it. Elements of French New Wave, obviously, but also "Badlands" and Powell/Pressburger (i was getting "Black Narcissus" vibes for some reason; Swindon is totally Deborah Kerr, regardless). I really appreciated the inclusion of real violence and real sexuality to offset the Wes Whimsy.

also it made me really want to learn more about Britten. The music of his they used was breathtaking.

i admit this is kind of awesome. nashville folks, do this!

http://www.belcourt.org/moonrise-kingdom-promotion

http://www.sitemason.com/files/lMKttC/Moonrise%20Kingdom%20PROMO_web.jpg/main.jpg

btw the belcourt rules.

ha, my FB status is "I can't tell, did wes anderson shoot moonrise kingdom using instagram or hipstamatic", shoulda checked here first

yeah belcourt is A+, saw so many 90s indie flicks there

i wonder what kind of knife comes in that picnic bag.

A couple of thoughts: how different would this have been had it been more outright emoted and not delivered in an almost exclusively affectless monotone? Also, I was wondering how the movie might have been a tiny bit better had it been exactly as it was, word for word and shot by shot, except the girl was black. Something to justify her outsider status beyond being pretty, listening to French pop and reading books, because as written (or underwritten) there's really no impetus for her acting out (beyond puberty, I guess), whereas the boy clearly has issues (parents dead, foster homes, sucky greaser foster brothers). Anyway, just a thought.

maybe if she was a gelfling?

That would work, too, though she sort of was a gelfling.

Two gelflings, in love and on the run.

all that stuff is p cool as like collectables for the action figure crew i guess but anyone over 15 who carries/uses it should be mercilessly beat up imo

how different would this have been had it been more outright emoted and not delivered in an almost exclusively affectless monotone?

yeah, i wondered that, too, though it was really only the two principals who took the affectedly disaffected monotone thing all the way. everyone else managed to transmit some personality (intellection, emotion) through the deadpan.

because as written (or underwritten) there's really no impetus for her acting out (beyond puberty, I guess),

never underestimate the sheer emotional fragility/ferocity of a girl going through puberty and her teen years

also, there are all kinds of reasons for people to act out or be depressed or otherwise emotionally "not normal" - sure the boy has quantifiable reasons but someone else with exactly the same background might not act out at all. reason or clear causality doesn't always matter much wrt these things. even in a movie...

will watch tomorrow

Well, yeah, I understand there are all sorts of reasons to act out, and it really doesn't matter - I pretty much loved the movie - but I did wonder if it could be better.It's just a little unbalanced. He's a quirky (if confident) clear outsider, with, yes, multiple and quantifiable psychological issues. But she's just acting out, which of course includes attacking people - maybe she's just crazy? Anyway, that's why I said the movie didn't need to be changed, necessarily. Just something, some beat, to give her behavior some direction.

The problem, I suppose, with Wes Anderson World, is that it's almost implied his characters have been like they'v been for years (think: Royal Tennenbaums); they don't really change. So it's weird, in the context of this film and how it is written, to think there is a Before Suzy and an After Suzy. In Wes Anderson World, she's been listening to French pop since diapers.

i think the peanuts analogy is really illuminating. why is charlie brown so depressed? what tragedy happened in his life to make him this way? we don't know, and maybe there's nothing. after all, anderson seems to constantly be suggesting that all humans are damaged in some way or another, and maybe the explanation matters less than the damage it left. sometimes that information is included on the registration profile (or whatever it was that Ed Norton kept referencing) and sometimes it isn't and you just have a damaged person and it's unclear why.

what i mean to say is that leaving it ambiguous worked for me - i found it relatable

well, she's a fantasy love object, and anderson's films are often about the outsider's desire for the trappings of wealth. suzy's a rebellious rich girl: pretty, weird, smart & malleable (not just in the boob area). the fact that she's down with sam's rebellion is pretty much a given.

xp to josh in chicago

i thought the kids' behaviour was anti-social because they are the true lovers in a cruel unfeeling world (that includes electro-therapy)

i disagree about 'fantasy love object' analysis 100% xp

I think part of the reason the girl was acting out was because her parents are weirdos who don't seem to be in love and her mom's hooking up with the nice policeman?

I just wish there were a tiny beat or two more indicated what drove her into the arms of the kid. She's much, much angrier than he is, so I wish there was ... something. I agree it's easy to overlook. BTW, all that stuff on the roof at the end was really striking.

Charlie Brown is depressed because he likes that girl, he can't kick the football, his dog is cooler than he is and he got a bag of rocks for Halloween.

Charlie Brown is depressed because that is his natural state, good grief

Charlie Brown is depressed because he likes that girl, he can't kick the football, his dog is cooler than he is and he got a bag of rocks for Halloween.

plus everybody's always pickin on him

I suspect CB suffers from IBS.

I keep wanting to call this movie "Moonage Dream." I wonder if that's where the idea for the title came from, now that I think about it.

it's hard to know what's the chicken and what's the egg w/ charlie brown, is he made fun of because he's a stick in the mud or is he a stick in the mud because he's always being made fun of?

http://www.matadorrecords.com/matablog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/harvey_head_big.jpg

I liked this but not much more than Rushmore or FMF. The script ran out of ideas in the last ten minutes (i.e. let's gather all the characters in a central location for a final time, for another climax).

fmf is way better imo, feels so full of ideas & jokes and characters compared to this

the dance scene on the beach reminded me of Pierrot le Fou

"FMF" is so good.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WpvgDgqTvdQ/Tyd9QqvWytI/AAAAAAAAAZw/jErSooKJdnI/s1600/wolf:fox+.jpg

There's Pierrot stuff all over this one (the scissors scene being another great example).

Caught this last night. This & FMF best 1-2 Anderson punch since his first two. Old people behind me thought Schwartzman was Sacha Baron Cohen. Young women next to me not ready for topless Bill Murray.

I liked this but not much more than Rushmore or FMF. The script ran out of ideas in the last ten minutes (i.e. let's gather all the characters in a central location for a final time, for another climax).

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there's some truth in this. the worst offender is life aquatic, where there are like eight climaxes all involving a grouping of nearly the entire cast.

the dance scene on the beach reminded me of Pierrot le Fou

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i'm 99% sure this was 100% intentional.

and if it wasn't Anderson has to refine his methods.

is it just me, or has he gotten a lot worse at achieving seamless tonal shifts? the murray/mcdormand marriage stuff felt kind of jarring in the context of the rest of the movie. especially as compared to tennenbaums, where he was able to glide back and forth between deadpan hilarity and much darker territory without creating any sense of disjointedness.

idk i remember something with an Elliott Smith song that was pretty jarring but it probably was supposed to be

It was jarring because it was an injection of a contemporary song.

I think it's important not to overlook having Owen Wilson as your writing partner vs. Roman Coppola or Noah Baumbach, both of whom have been hit or miss vs. Wilson. Though again, this and "Fantastic Mr. Fox" were pretty great, which sort of redeems those two vs. Wilson.

i don't think it's been overlooked

i must have missed all the ideas and jokes FMF was apparently brimming with