i have found anderson's slippage into tics + mannerisms to be beautiful and even writerly. there's a certain hallowedness + stillness + meditation to moonrise whose genesis imo occurs in life aquatic (hated darjeeling) and i've found his distance from naturalism (which he's obv always found uncomfortable) to be more + more interesting. i suspect this accounts for the massive distance between the films i love by anderson (primarily these later ones) and the ones other ppl like. thought it wasn't a coincidence that the penultimate scenes of moonrise occur at a church, the two lightning strikes from heaven, etc. more stately than realistic.
maybe unrelated that credit card commercial was a big mistake since it kinda exposed how apolitical some of his homage artifice was (he can even pan the camera for Mastercard!), and cheapened some of the tricks.
― Mordy, Monday, 2 July 2012 12:54 (eleven years ago) link
See the tics and mannerisms are just part of the WA package for me. I remember seeing the trailer for Rushmore and thinking "Holy crap they are playing the live "A Quick One" from the 1968 Rock n Roll Circus and look at how weird and symmetrical everything is! This is going to rule!"
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 2 July 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link
I like to think that he's just doing his thing and this recognizable quality is what the ad producers snagged him for, so a) this is the cost of doing business in hollywood/tvland, and b) he's making mad cash so he can make weirder less "likeable" movies. I am an optimist obv!
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Monday, 2 July 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link
He also did that commercial before making one movie in India and another entirely with stop motion.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 2 July 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
Yes, proof!
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Monday, 2 July 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link
I thought the whole point of those credit card ads was playing up all the director's quirks (M. Night, I'm looking at you).
― Electro-Shock Rory (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 2 July 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link
saw this over the weekend! thought is was great. only complaint is that keitel was underused!
― tylerw, Monday, 2 July 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link
Anderson's learned much from Woody's penchant for star non-turns.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 July 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link
Frankly, I'm not sure how one even uses Keitel these days.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 July 2012 21:01 (eleven years ago) link
after seeing his photo in the khaki scout magazine in the beginning, i thought it would be interesting if anderson just used his picture, and keitel wasn't even in the movie.
― tylerw, Monday, 2 July 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link
i had no idea harvey keitel was in this. im suddenly interested!
― Black_vegeta (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 2 July 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
he is underused!
― tylerw, Monday, 2 July 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link
but he's good. made me realize it had been forever since i'd sen harv in anything.
he's been underused for the last 12 years. the 90s were so kind to harvey, what happened!
― Black_vegeta (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 2 July 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link
The film's biggest disappointment is not using Keitel, McDormand, Balaban, etc as nothing more than visual cues.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 July 2012 21:13 (eleven years ago) link
*as anything
i dunno, i thought balaban was perfect. and mcdormand was great in that bathtub scene.
― tylerw, Monday, 2 July 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
supposedly there's a photo of Owen Wilson (as Miss Cross' dead husband) in Rushmore somewhere. Never spotted it though
― Number None, Monday, 2 July 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link
The film's biggest disappointment is not using Keitel, McDormand, Balaban, etc as nothing more than visual cues. - this is a problem w/ wes anderson and actors in general, he knows how to use them as dolls but as human beings (post rushmore at least and maybe even then) forget it. when actors have actually made characters more than cartoon figures - bruce willis in this, mcdormand for the bathtub scene, and the big one gene hackman in tenenbaums - it's felt like an accident or, as we know in hackman's case, an actor deliberately ignoring what his director wants. i basically enjoyed this and think wes anderson should maybe focus on making actual kids flicks, children tend to come off as full of shit cartoon characters anyway. will add that watching this a few hours after finally reading that 'can a 9 year old be a psychopatch?' times piece was something, i kept thinking 'these kids are gonna get swept out to sea and we're supposed to think it's sad or tragic but all i'm going to think is 'thank god'.' still enjoyed it though - find myself way way way more willing to tolerate wes anderson (or woody allen) frothy mediocrities if they come out at a time of year where my other option is something like ted.
― balls, Monday, 2 July 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link
there is something family guy-esque about moonrise kingdom...
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 2 July 2012 22:39 (eleven years ago) link
also: young kids do what you tell them to do. I don't know what the hell attracted Keitel to this script ("You'll wear a Sam Elliott mustache!").
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 July 2012 22:40 (eleven years ago) link
wtf at Shakey bashing Willis upthread. Willis has always been particularly good acting with kids.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 July 2012 22:41 (eleven years ago) link
Keitel got paid and got a Wes Anderson movie on his resume--that's all you need to know.
― Electro-Shock Rory (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 2 July 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link
how is that a plus
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 July 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link
free scarves for life
― balls, Monday, 2 July 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link
Rachel McAdams abasing herself for Woody Allen I understand
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 July 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link
supporting actresses in Woody films get Oscars or Oscar noms -- she had nothing to lose.
Wes Anderson>straight to dvd/tv movies/commercials Keitel usually does these days.
― Electro-Shock Rory (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 2 July 2012 22:47 (eleven years ago) link
xpost
speaking of which, i see woody has reeled in ellen paige for his next one
― buh, Monday, 2 July 2012 22:49 (eleven years ago) link
also: young kids do what you tell them to do.lol what
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Monday, 2 July 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
i wouldn't have wanted to see any more or any less of Keitel in this
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Monday, 2 July 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
I've already seen ALL of Keitel several times (Bruce Willis too, unfortunately)
― your petty attempt at destroying me is laughable (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 2 July 2012 22:52 (eleven years ago) link
i would've liked to have seen less of the stupid rescue scene
― balls, Monday, 2 July 2012 22:52 (eleven years ago) link
shakey i know you did not just trash color of the night
― balls, Monday, 2 July 2012 22:53 (eleven years ago) link
i like wes anderson's thing for casting men who are atypically good-looking and often kind of beaten-up or busted-nosed or sagging-faced. save for luke wilson, of course...
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Monday, 2 July 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link
Bruce Willis gets naked in like 3/4s of the movies he appears in!
also I am allowed to hate him! he makes movies worse!
sheesh
― your petty attempt at destroying me is laughable (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 2 July 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link
no he doesn't!
― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Monday, 2 July 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link
you like die hard, though, right, shakey?
― tylerw, Monday, 2 July 2012 22:57 (eleven years ago) link
lol what
lol I knew this would raise eyebrows. I'm just saying that even Truffaut would agree that the worst six-year-old tantrum is less onerous than a sixty-year-old star's.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 July 2012 22:58 (eleven years ago) link
I have never seen the entirety of Die Hard and have no plans to. don't even bother.
― your petty attempt at destroying me is laughable (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 2 July 2012 23:02 (eleven years ago) link
ha I love you Shakey
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 July 2012 23:04 (eleven years ago) link
Willis has been at least terrific or better in Mortal Thoughts, Pulp Fiction, Nobody's Fool, and The Sixth Sense.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 July 2012 23:05 (eleven years ago) link
pretty good on miami vice also. best performance in moonrise kingdom also w/ possible exception of the girl (though who can tell w/ kids).
― balls, Monday, 2 July 2012 23:07 (eleven years ago) link
shakey have you seen die hard 3: die hard w/ a vengeance. pretty pretty good, esp if you like puzzles. graham greene is in it. not THAT graham greene though.
― balls, Monday, 2 July 2012 23:09 (eleven years ago) link
Willis will either win a Lifetime Achievement Oscar or one for a shitty film in which he befriends a young punk-ass who wants to fight German terrorists in skyscrapers while in his bare feet.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 July 2012 23:11 (eleven years ago) link
I have seen Die Hard 3. I saw it in the theater with a friend who was trying to convince me that Willis was "the American Chow Yun Fat"
― your petty attempt at destroying me is laughable (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 2 July 2012 23:12 (eleven years ago) link
some highlights of Bruce's finest moments:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6aTqBL62Yohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDXkd2NyCCE
I could make fun of you singing in the shower too
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 July 2012 23:13 (eleven years ago) link
maybe but you couldn't make fun of me for attending the '92 GOP convention
― your petty attempt at destroying me is laughable (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 2 July 2012 23:14 (eleven years ago) link
wow shakey you hate robert mitchum or telly savalas also?
― balls, Monday, 2 July 2012 23:14 (eleven years ago) link