I think it's fine to anticipate Wes Anderson's Moonrise Kingdom

I could make fun of you singing in the shower too

maybe but you couldn't make fun of me for attending the '92 GOP convention

wow shakey you hate robert mitchum or telly savalas also?

are you seriously dismissing an actor for being an ass in his personal life?

Mitchum is great in at least several great films, spanning several decades and styles (Night of the Hunter, The Friends of Eddie Coyle, and Dead Man, off the top of my head). Telly I have no real opinion on. he reminded people to love him, or something, iirc...?

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i kept thinking 'these kids are gonna get swept out to sea and we're supposed to think it's sad or tragic but all i'm going to think is 'thank god'.'

doop doop doo taking this out of context later

is that a Steely Dan lyric

Willis' personal life is just the shitty icing on a shitty cake imho.

Pulp Fiction is Tarantino's worst movie, can't stand Willis in it apart from a couple minutes (his scenes with his wife are unbearable). 12 Monkeys is okay, he's the worst thing in it, mystified as to what Gilliam saw in him. 5th Element I have some issues with but again Willis is the most irritating thing in it, (mostly because he is not a setpiece designed by Moebius lol). I can't think of any other movies I even like that he is in for any appreciable amount of time.

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find it hard to believe any grown man could not have an opinion on telly savalas

I remember enjoying Moonlighting at the time. otoh I was like 11 and haven't seen it since.

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lol willis most irritating thing in it? did you turn it off before chris tucker popped up or before gary oldman spoke or before tricky 'acted' or before love Love LOVE was the fifth element?

strongly suspect allyce beasley is best thing in moonlighting (maybe booger?). plus pretty hard to hate bruce willis when hate magnet cybill shepard is right. there.

Savalas has been dead for almost 20 years, I imagine there are a fair amount of grown men who have no idea who he even is. I think the only thing I may have seen him in is the Dirty Dozen...? which I probably slept most of the way through.

re: 5th Element - some of those things are bad, but at least they are bad in a way that is very much in the spirit of the source material (ie Metal Hurlant). I don't really like that movie much tbh. I enjoy it more when it's just on in the background and I don't have to make any effort to follow it or listen to it

I gasped when I saw Keitel. I had no idea he was in this until that moment. More Keitel would have been welcome obv but the person I was left really wanting more of was Schwartzman.

I do remember that my favorite episode of the Moonlighting was the one where Beazley and Booger take on a case by themselves (I don't think Willis/Shepard even appear?)

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'Willis was "the American Chow Yun Fat"'

i kinda want to see chow yun fat in a wes anderson movie. not as a manservant though.

I know Morbs is off the grid due to being on vacation, Shakey, but you're really taking this curmudgeon game seriously today

i think that's toward the end when shepard was flaking out big time, willis was already looking to movies, and glenn gordon caron had a hard time getting episodes in on time (and frequently failed iirc).

honestly not Morbzing here, ILX is the only place I frequent where Bruce Willis is so roundly praised so I guess my opinion sticks out

critics have routinely praised Willis for years!

I only like a handful of things he's done but I think he does a quiet confidence well

i wonder how many times willis was on the moonrise kingdom set thinking 'starting to get a north vibe here'.

willis is great onscreen, even in shitty movies. he's got tons of presence, rarely seems affected or "actorly", undercuts his glib charm with a sense of wounded depth and any angst with self-deprecating wit. think he's a complete dork in real life and wish he picked more interesting projects in general, but he's easily my favorite action-hero/leading man-type actor of the past few decades.

This seems like the appropriate place and time to talk about the soft spot I have for Hudson Hawk. I have it on DVD.

so do i!

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mainly, initially I found the idea of Bruce Willis in a Wes Anderson film incongruous, but then I remembered the affected quality of Hudson Hawk, one of its strengths, such as they are, and I thought to myself "this will probably work out really well."

Willis is almost always great when it crops up in stuff like "Fast Food Nation" or "Pulp Fiction" or "Nobody's Fool" or as himself in "Oceans 12" or even in unconventional (for him) leading roles like "12 Monkeys" or "Sixth Sense" or even "Fifth Element."

"12 Monkeys" or "Sixth Sense" or even "Fifth Element."

Apart from the Die Hards, these are my favorite things Bruce Willis has done (and I could conceivably add "Moonrise Kingdom" to the list).

Also, he was pretty good in "Unbreakable" too, but that movie had huge issues.

yeah on both points

man i need to watch nobody's fool again. i also need to not always hear that kenny loggins song in my head whenever i hear the phrase 'nobody's fool'.

Finally saw this. Hard to sum up my feelings in a couple of sentences, which I guess is a good thing. It has not replaced Rushmore as my favourite Wes Anderson film; obviously they have a lot in common, but Rushmore drew me in and really affected me emotionally, Moonrise Kingdom I looked at with interest. The boy is basically Dirk from Rushmore, and later on in life he was my boss for a couple of years in the late '80s. The performances are fine--I thought both Willis and Norton were surprisingly subdued. The symmetrical compositions fell somewhere between wearing and distracting before long. The whole time I wondered what universe I was in, but I realize many people feel the same about Rushmore. In spite of these and other misgivings, I was moved by the ending. I missed the way pop music was used in Rushmore and Tenenbaums. I'm not sure if I should quit while I'm ahead or wait a bit and see it a second time.

A couple of additional thoughts after skimming comments above. I was never a camper when I was young--once or twice--and I think I would connect more with the film if I had been. One image I liked a lot was the medium-long shot of the canoes fleeing with Sam and Suzy; the riverboat escape in The Night of the Hunter flashed across my mind. And I liked Sam's spastic dancing.

wait wtf bruce willis is a fantastic actor.

speaking of ... i just watched a film with a really early telly savalas appearance. he is already completely bald on top, but he has some hair around his ears. and he was smoking a cigar!

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Srsly.

I don't understand this at all.

he is by far the best thing about this movie

second only to the way Norton holds his cigarette six inches from his body.

GUYS WHAT ABOUT SCWARTZMAN? He was really funny!

he was!! he is my #1 wedding officiant of choice

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i don't think anyone was underused in this movie. it's an ensemble-cast thing done with star-power names, known entities or not.

i like how he made them spit out their gum

this movie actually made edward norton likeable!

there was the perfect amount of schwartzman in this one.

now see Schwartzman I will watch in pretty much anything. love that dude.

movie maybe could have used tilda swinton a bit more? although her character was basically a gag.

i saw this and i liked it but something about it has really buried itself in my mind and i'm growing to like it more and more. the interactions between sam and suzy initially struck me as a bit off, but then really it makes perfect sense that these two slightly (or more than slightly) precocious and awkward children would build something through letters that would take a while to realise in real life. and... i dunno, even though it seems quite simple i feel like my thoughts on it are still germinating.

and ya i don't really agree with the underused thing wrt anyone, even beyond it being a big-name ensemble cast i think they're more all a supporting cast to the two kids.

this movie actually made edward norton likeable!
otm. seems like he took the owen wilson role of the film and made it his own

this was pretty good!

-loved how willis couldn't even change his accent if he tried really very hard