The Daily Show

I like the idea that TDS/TCR are turning all these potential political activists into defeatist couch potatoes but not the other way around.

I mean obv. it's not converting South Park fans to liberal activism by the thousands but I doubt it's making them LESS interested in politics

Good work, guys. For serious, this is thought-provoking.

ok just now when Colbert was corpsing and getting himself bleeped while trying to blend the berenstein bears book into a smoothie was genuinely enjoyable and funny. The filling out the applications to get on the primary ballots in SC, not really funny at all. The pure comedy is so much better.

gff i don't think those two quotes are contradictory

mentioned this on the Lost thread but the entertainment industry's been gearing up for a writer's guild strike for a while now. they're saying it could happen as early as the first of next month or as late as july next year.

personally, i don't think it's going to happen, i'm pretty sure they'll work out their contracts with AMPTP soon but if it does, a lot of tv programs are going to be affected. Dunno about you guys, but as bad as TDS/TCR have been lately, an election year without them would suck balls.

yeah the application filing was a nowhere bit. Eh, what ya gonna do.

And let's not forget: he's not running for president, he's running in the SC primaries, and BOTH of them. That's kinda funny. He told Terry Gross the other day, "South Carolina will allow you to run as both a Democrat and a Republican. Of course, they'll also let you marry a 13-year-old girl."

I feel the opposite way as Tombot! the bit where he's haphazardly filling out the presidential application had me cracking up; while alot of the straight comedy bits (and things like Tek Jansen) don't hit the mark for me.

I think the main reason Colbert has cooled off is that people know who he is now. His interviews and Better Know a district bits were awesome, when he'd sit with these people who clearly had no idea what they'd gotten themselves into.

The correspondents dinner seemed to have ruined that.

but it was worth it.

xpost :(

is he even still doing BKAD?

tracer i don't think their contradictory either

they're

OTTM, the way Letterman's lack of anonymity killed his super "Mr Curious" bit (and others)

is he even still doing BKAD?

He's planning to start it up again soon, but he was busy with writing a book for the last few months.

that's good to hear, BKAD was always one of my favorite bits and the lack of it lately has been more disappointing to me than all the ironic-or-not cult of personality stuff.

the fightin' (x)!!

The cult of personality stuff is clearly what makes SC's biggest fans cream themselves. Stewart, not so much.

ironic-or-not cult of personality stuff

how is it not ironic?

that WHOOOOOO his studio audience gives does not sound ironic.

Or else it does, and they're playing along like they're supposed to. I'm sure there's a few idiots and genuine fanboys/girls in the crowd, but I wouldn't assume that they all are, or even that they are as a collective.

i highly doubt there's much of an archie bunker response to colbert

i guarantee you that SC audience is cheering 100% ironically, i just dont know that theres a difference between irony and authenticity for most people under 30

ironic-or-not cult of personality stuff

how is it not ironic?

-- kenan, Wednesday, October 24, 2007 12:30 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

UGH i'm not getting roped into this idiotic debate. using the phrase "ironic-or-not" was my way of skirting the issue of who thinks it is and who thinks it isn't. forget i said it.

yeah, it's not going to take us anywhere... I was mostly reacting to Morb's "But you don't understand, everybody in the world is a complete idiot" thing. But that's pointless, too.

Colbert could be breaking FEC laws.

"We wanted "Update" to be good, but we didn't think that we had to pander. If the rest of the show was pandering, then we thought we wouldn't have to. So then i started getting the sense that they were unhappy. Ohlmeyer and his crew thought that every joke in "Update" should kill, and the audience should be clapping and cheering and stuff. They thought Jay Leno did that every night with his monologues, so why couldn't we do it one night a week for five minutes, where it should just be wall-to-wall laughter and applause? My response was, I hate applause. I don't like an audience applauding you because that's like a cheap kind of high. They kind of control you. They're like, "Yeah, we agree." That's all they're doing, saying they agree with your viewpoint. And while you can applaud voluntarily, you can't laugh voluntarily - you have to laugh involuntarily. I don't want to say things that an audience will agree with, I don't want to say anything that the audience already thinks." - Norm Macdonald

it's SNL, the audience wants to be pandered to.

musical guest, Feist!

SNL's problem was that beginning with (i think) Dennis Miller, Weekend Update changed from the audience laughing AT the hapless anchorpeople to laughing WITH them, from on high down AT the subjects of the jokes

which is a trap the Daily Show's correspondents, for all of Stewart's own pandering, have never succumbed to

somebody find the thread where dr morbz whines about norm macdonald being a homophobe

http://defamer.com/336518/stewart-colbert-going-back-to-work

SCABS!

There's no way I'd vote for him as President now.

Let's hope for some fuckery in the style of Kimmel hosting the AMAs.

how in hell can these shows work w/out a writing staff? Although JS interviewing atarlets for 20 mibnutes could be fun.

emperor without his clothes?

be like that scene in 'wayne's world' when garth is left on his own.

i'm hoping for lots of ad lib and bad jokes that can only be attributed to the hosts!

and a lot of jon stewart's guilty shrugs obv.

I'm sure Stewart can improvise decently -- his interviews with nonpols are frequently the best thing on the show -- but not 120 minutes a week.

he's a terrible interviewer!

Not for entertainment as opposed to informational value.

http://dennisperrin.blogspot.com/2007/12/will-scab-for-laffs.html

i like his random book tourist interviews much better than the pol interviews which i like much much better than the celeb ones xxxp

Opening remarks AND what the hell the show's going to be like should be strange tonight...

my guess - the majority of the show will be juggling and stupid human tricks.
jon sings a duet with dennis kucinich and luke perry will be shot from a cannon.

I'm more interested in seeing how far Colbert goes without a net. Stewart will be solid I suspect, but his counterpart could go nuts.

I'd put it the other way around. Colbert has such a history with improv that he'll likely be fine. His straight-laced irony, and the cushion of character he's created will carry the ep pretty far.

I'm afraid TDS is going to be like a very bad version of Charlie Rose.

yeah gimme a break Colbert's got a well-developed character and a history of improv to fall back on. Jon Stewart has jackshit (lolz "interview skills")