Kenneth Lonergan's MARGARET, starring Anna Paquin as a teenager in turmoil

can't wait to see the extended cut

So it's an extended cut and not a director's cut, right? That is, the best they can do? Did Lonergan supervise its, er, extension?

well it was probably an earlier cut of Lonergan's or one that was submitted with his approval. The studio are hardly going to ask him to recut the entire movie to his desired version at this stage given all they they have already lost financially. plus he could take another year to do it, i dare say.

can't wait to see the extended cut of this. criminal that it was only released on one screen for 2 weeks in the UK

Does the longer cut shed any more light on the scene where Paquin tells Damon she's had an abortion? Unless I missed something, I think the shorter cut leaves it ambiguous as to whether this is a lie.

According to that Edelstein review it does

i kinda liked that ambiguity.

can't wait to see the extended cut of this. criminal that it was only released on one screen for 2 weeks in the UK

It started out with that run, but ended up extending to many other screens when it was such a sell-out at the Odeon Panton St (where it played for a couple of months I think)

Does the longer cut shed any more light on the scene where Paquin tells Damon she's had an abortion? Unless I missed something, I think the shorter cut leaves it ambiguous as to whether this is a lie.

― Jeff W, Friday, 13 July 2012 14:57 (1 week ago) Bookmark

Having now watched the extended cut, i preferred the ambiguous version

and Edelstein is way off base about the new running time suddenly turning it into a masterpiece or whatever. There's some nice little added moments in there but all the truly great stuff was already present

Sounds sort of like the similarly wrong reaction to the extended cut of "Almost Famous." Some nice stuff put back in, but most of the good stuff was there already, and some of the stuff put back in makes the good stuff not as good.

im v curious 2 watch the shorter cut - feel like i'll give it some more time tho, i just watched the extended cut a few nights ago - i dont think it's a masterpiece but there'er a lot of great scenes - number none, i think you're the 1st person ive read of that prefers the shorter vers

Lonergan was on the radio the other day saying it wasn't true that he intended for it to be longer in the first place – claims that this longer cut just comes from him being asked if he wanted to do one, and thought that it would be interesting to explicitly show some of the stuff that he chose to hint at in the theatrical cut.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01kkr4n

Full cut playing here!

So the existing (150-minute) cut is a mixed success. The last half hour made me look away several times.

look away from what? the only thing I thought that misfired completely in the last act was Jean Reno's resolution.

the Damon-Paquin relationship, the resolutions -- a mess

I sisn't think the Damon thing was gonna go there it's true, but I like his "You stupid..."

Yeah that felt like the good sort of ad-lib (whether it actually was or not)

LOL, the conspiracy to keep this from people's eyes continues: Now selling for $999 on Amazon.

Link

Amazon's exclusive and stock ran out. The reissue isn't happening until October.

Huh. Glad I got my copy then! Still haven't had time to watch it.

It's on Netflix (DVD & Bluray, no streaming).

only the shorter version

I mean, that's what it looks like - there's no mention of the extended cut in their listing

Yeah, it looks that way. Which is interesting as the theatrical cut is Blu-only on the commercial release.

maybe I'll order up the DVD and see what I get

will sell my r2 extended cut for £700

think i actually prefer the shorter, pretty much - only one of the additional scenes is enriching in a big way, i think (iirc, anyway - i'm talking about a discussion in a cafe in which the sound design switches around a lot (even by the standards of the new sound mix (which is a real improvement, i think)), though it's possible i just don't remember it from the cinema).

no, i'm pretty sure that scene wasn't in the theatrical

FYI the netflix DVD is the 150 minute cut

Yeah I think the Redbox one is the same. Only way to see the extended is to buy the Blu-ray.

...and the only legal way to see the theatrical at home if you don't do Blu is rent it.

Oh Fox...

looks like amazon is taking backorders now with new stock available on august 27

just saw the three hour cut. half good, half kinda shit. basically starts to dry up and fall apart once Lisa begins her bizarre, "moral" quest to stick it to the bus driver. scenes seem to be awkwardly jammed in all over the place. it's messy and erratic enough to render a lot of the HEAVY SAD SHIT* almost comical. so much time spent detailing legal minutiae while rapid fire tragedy is just casually flipped through. manages to feel both bloated AND rushed.

*also, when you pack this much HEAVY SAD SHIT into a film, it starts losing its weight. it was approaching the absurd and by the end any emotional involvement i had was gone.

thought the stuff centered around the kids was a lot more compelling than most of the adult drama. wished death upon the blunt but "TRUTH DROPPIN'" friend-of-the-deceased nearly every second she was on the screen. liked Damon and the Culkin kid quite a bit. Broderick sipping his orange juice and taking quick, flustered little bites of his sandwich during class discussion was hilarious.

PERSONAL INFO: i witnessed a horrific, fatal pedestrian accident a few weeks ago so some of this was obviously extra difficult to sit through. almost turned it off during that bus scene but persevered because i didn't want that image burned into my brain for the rest of the day. absolutely harrowing, borderline panic attack.

that sounds like a terribly difficult watch, circa. my instinct was to argue w/you over the ratio of legal-minutiae/rapid-fire-tragedy, because for me the pairing of & dynamic between those was really powerful - how frustrating the labyrinth of irrelevant legal shit was, & the treatment of the relationship between a horrific accident & its dry, bureaucratic resolution, paired as if they were some kind of natural balance. the lightness of the circumstances in which the accident happened felt appropriate, to me, but i can't imagine watching it with any personal frame of reference, so.

so much time spent detailing legal minutiae while rapid fire tragedy is just casually flipped through

thought the stuff centered around the kids was a lot more compelling than most of the adult drama

^^^ on this. First half of the movie is pretty incredible, but thought that the Jean Reno-as-Snidely Whiplash subplot diluted what could have been pretty compelling.

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need to see this new edit

lol

whoa armed bus driver

extra half hour of footage in which it turns out ruffalo shot janney

wheres that pic from

"GREAT MOVIE"

No Transfer for Old Men

hahaha

I found this film maddening, tbh. There were interesting things about it

wheres that pic from

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i only watched it until just after the crash and thought it seemed almost inept. the crash itself was badly directed imo and i found the part where she was running beside the bus asking ruffalo where he got his cowboy hat kind of crass. i may return to it at some point.

ps i'm a huge fan of you can count on me.

i don't mean a crass thing for paquin's character to do but a crass thing for lonergan to do.

on the King Lear classroom scene:

http://www.avclub.com/articles/a-seemingly-superfluous-scene-says-a-lot-about-mar,85264/