Seinfeld: Classic or Dud

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Well, yes, obviously someone must like it or it wouldn't be on telly. I was just wondering if anyone on this beeotch liked it.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

It used to be alright. That Karen girl is my idol. But the rest of them are just awful, especially Will who is horrible and unfunny and not really great looking either. Karen is fantastic, they should make a show just about her.

Ally, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

nine months pass...
need to know what mark s thinks

Josh, Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

funny obv

mark s, Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

seinfeld not will and grace

mark s, Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

More than funny. Possibly the finest TV show evah. A whole series based around social etiquettes, social signals, socialistica! Like the Wink & The Gun, and the Old Switcheroo, and the Old Clear Throat. And how it's funny just recounting the plot, leaving out the jokes, just telling the scenario - I'm not explaining this very well. But it's beyond funny. Also - the slap bass and fashion sense = jokes.

david h(owie), Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Seinfeld always came off a VERY poor second to Larry Sanders when they were shown together on BBC2...

Andrew L, Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

People are always saying this. I disagree, even though I love Larry Sanders. They're different kind of shows though - I think people in the UK just think of them together cause of the scheduling.

N., Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yes.

david h(owie), Sunday, 9 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

eleven months pass...
This thread is weird. I expected to find lots of Seinfeld love. It seems like a very ILX type show. What's up with some of the criticism here? Racist?! "Wretched fashion sense"?!

Anyway, I want to hate this show, it's the type of cultural phenomenon that normally annoys me, but every time I stumble across a rerun I end up watching it and having some good laffs. Last night I saw the one where Elaine dates a mover but breaks up with him because of his stance on abortion. And George invites himself over to a family's house to watch their rented copy of Breakfast at Tiffany's because he didn't read the book for his study group. It was funny. I'll say classic.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Saturday, 24 May 2003 19:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

The darkest, sickest show television has ever spewed forth. Unbelievably classic.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 24 May 2003 19:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

And I, too, am blown away by this thread. It shocks me so that I may have to step away from the computer. What's wrong with you people?

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 24 May 2003 19:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

I've seen plenty of episodes becuase it's been re-runned forever, everywhere and I have never ever laughed, not once. It doesn't irritate me, it doesn't offend me, it doesn't amuse me...it's just there.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 24 May 2003 19:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

That's so weird.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 24 May 2003 19:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

Do you like anything on television?

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 24 May 2003 19:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

so fucking classic. same with larry sanders.

BBC2 didin't treat these shows like the comedy gold they were (sticking them late evening etc WTF?!) whereas crap like friends and will and grace get prime time on C4 (OK the former was funny for the first two series).

crosspost: daddino doesn't rock anymore.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 24 May 2003 19:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

...and maybe the reason why is that I don't even find any of the characters especially eccentric or neurotic. Make of that what you will.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 24 May 2003 19:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

You know what's even weirder? I don't laugh at The Simpsons anymore. There are soooo many episodes, and I've seen them all soooo many times, and some are funny but too familiar to get any honest chuckles out of me, and many of them are nowhere near as funny as I remembered.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 24 May 2003 19:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

crosspost: daddino doesn't rock anymore.

I HAVEN'T EVEN BEGUN TO ROCK YET!

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 24 May 2003 19:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't even find any of the characters especially eccentric or neurotic

I'm afraid of you.

George Constanza is a brilliant character. A recognizable, even sympathetic monster.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 24 May 2003 19:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

Do you like anything on television?

Witness this and this. As well as this, once in a while.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 24 May 2003 20:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

I linked to this thread itself when I wanted to link to this: Genius.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 24 May 2003 20:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

ya, it's a pretty damn funny show. I like tuning in for the last 8 minutes and trying to figure out what the fuck is going on.

oops (Oops), Saturday, 24 May 2003 23:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

Why are Americans complaining that it's always repeated, but Brits are saying it's never fucking on? Oh wait, I know, it's because the BBC treat this gem like utter shit.

Also, I'm fairly sure I would love Larry Sanders, but I've never seen it because of the stupid fucking BBC.

Nick H, Sunday, 25 May 2003 00:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't find any of the characters especially eccentric or neurotic either. I mean, obviously, at least Kramer is, but they're all cartoon characters on some level like anyone in a sitcom. So given sitcom-ness, they're not.

But I do think it's a great show, and sometimes ridiculously funny. And I think the "nihilism" (but it's not that - it's a sympathetic portrait of failed humanity) is what makes it great. Curb Your Enthusiasm does this too, but too much so - we need some real humor and niceness along with the nasty stuff. Also, the particularly New York voice of the show. Complaining about the hackneyed plot lines is like complaining that Buffy has to kill a vampire every week (well, ok, maybe there's something to that).

It's not my personal favorite tv show - I like sentimental, yuppie-sensibility stuff like Mad About You and Northern Exposure, which I won't make greatness claims for. And It's not the greatest tv show ever - whatever that is, it's probably not a sitcom - but I think a good argument can be made for best sitcom of the last 25 years

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 25 May 2003 00:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

I say classic. But I didn't find it held up well in syndication. Maybe it was just a 90s thing.

Carey (Carey), Sunday, 25 May 2003 00:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

ive never been able to watch more than 5 minutes of this show w/o feeling ill and changing the channel.

amateurist (amateurist), Sunday, 25 May 2003 01:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

And as much as I like it, I can totally see how you could feel that way.

oops (Oops), Sunday, 25 May 2003 01:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think Seinfeld is more of an ilm show than an ile show.

Nicole (Nicole), Sunday, 25 May 2003 01:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

ILM kind of reminds me more of "Facts of Life" actually.

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 25 May 2003 02:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

'You take the good, you take the bad...'
Dibbs on Mrs. G

oops (Oops), Sunday, 25 May 2003 07:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

Evey day you disturb me just a little bit more.

luna (luna.c), Sunday, 25 May 2003 07:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

I'll take Tootie.
Although nowadays if you call her Tootie, she'll punch you square in the face.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Sunday, 25 May 2003 07:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think the "nihilism" (but it's not that - it's a sympathetic portrait of failed humanity) is what makes it great. Curb Your Enthusiasm does this too, but too much so - we need some real humor and niceness along with the nasty stuff.


I totally disagree with this. I've come to HATE the basic attitude of Seinfeld - I watch it every night, it's the only thing on TV in New Zealand - and Jerry's whole, 'My parents love me, aren't I adorable, you all love me, and I'm just gonna be a fucking bastard because I can' thing is really wearying after a while. Seinfeld doesn't even break a sweat. He's always as cool as a cucumber, looking at everyone else - looking at girls - and the sneer is never too far away. Larry David seems much humbler - he can hardly bear to look anyone else in the face, let alone laugh AT them. This makes 'Curb Your Enthusiasm' seem much, much nicer to me.

m-ry-nn (m-ry-nn), Sunday, 25 May 2003 07:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

He doesn't care enough to be sneering.

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 25 May 2003 08:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Jerry" on Seinfeld = Larry David in real life.

chaki (chaki), Sunday, 25 May 2003 09:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

sensitive people shouldnt watch tv

unknown or illegal user (doorag), Sunday, 25 May 2003 09:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

that's why i don't watch tv, 'cause i'm sensitive

unknown or illegal user (doorag), Sunday, 25 May 2003 09:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

I thought Larry David was supposed to be George.

N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 25 May 2003 10:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

he actually supposed to be Izzy Mandlebaum

chaki (chaki), Sunday, 25 May 2003 10:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think Jerry's (and Elaine's) smugness is there to distract you from the utter horribleness of George's life (and the utter unbelievableness of Kramer's): has there ever been a more repulsive character on a sitcom?

Seinfeld has ruined me for all other sitcoms: I can't watch any of them without getting bored. I think it's actually gotten better in syndication: the episodes I thought were lame first time around seem funnier to me now. There's also a tragic, hopeless undercurrent to the humor that's perfectly disguised by its breeziness, tho it's probably fatal to take Seinfeld too seriously.

Also, after watching it 53,000,000 times I think I've started to fancy Elaine a bit.

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 25 May 2003 12:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

Me too, even her dancing doesn't dissuade me.

oops (Oops), Sunday, 25 May 2003 18:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

I fancy her because she has the same maniacal grin that I have. Fancying yourself: classic or dud?

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 25 May 2003 19:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

classic as long as you tickle yourself and others watch ;)

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 25 May 2003 19:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

Who do you think I am, Martin?

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 25 May 2003 19:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

no. but you are N's long lost sister.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 25 May 2003 19:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ally in self-fancying SHOCKAH

oops (Oops), Sunday, 25 May 2003 19:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

So that's where my brother went. My mother always told me I had an older brother that she sent away, because she hates boys...

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 25 May 2003 19:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

well tell yr momma N is a GROWN MANG now!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 25 May 2003 19:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

Trust me, if she gets wind of the tickle thing she'll never take him back.

Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, 25 May 2003 20:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

He was legitimately great at this on Seinfeld though, something that really defines that show for me is how most episodes end on a good joke rather than trying to wrap anything up

frogbs, Friday, 10 May 2024 17:18 (two weeks ago) link

I just searched 'Unfrosted' on twitter to see if I was maybe off-base with my impression that it's getting a mostly negative reaction and after scrolling through dozens of people hating on it the first positive comment is from someone whose profile says they own over 2300 Funko Pops lol (including/plus "300 + grails")

Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Friday, 10 May 2024 18:00 (two weeks ago) link

Kurt Pickard
Murfreesboro, TN 2h ago

"Unfrosted" is a true delight, especially for those of us who grew up during that era. For those who didn't, I can see where some of the nuanced humor gets lost. No bloody violence, foul language, sex or computer graphics. The casting is superb and we need to keep a special eye on Eleanor Sweeney. Everyone in the house can lean back in the recliner and enjoy some good natured fun. How uncommon is that these days? Jerry Seinfeld hit this movie out of the park and should be nominated for an Oscar's Oscar. My only complaint is that Larry David was noticeably absent.

scott seward, Friday, 10 May 2024 18:26 (two weeks ago) link

no bloody violence, foul language, sex or computer graphics 👎🏽

mark s, Friday, 10 May 2024 18:34 (two weeks ago) link

it does have that Gus Grissom joke though, which has divided even fans of the film

@JerrySeinfeld I very much enjoyed Unfrosted. I would be pleased if you would consider removing the name of Gus Grissom from the movie. It's not appropriate. Also, FYI - IBM is not responsible for Univac. Of course Chef Boy-are-dee had noting to do with Pop Tarts either. :)

— ReadandRight (@ReadandRight999) May 10, 2024

The casting is superb and we need to keep a special eye on Eleanor Sweeney.

assuming that this was the girl who played one of the two kids who appear at various points throughout the film, she was really eerily good

Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Friday, 10 May 2024 18:43 (two weeks ago) link

That Kurt Pickard review reminds me of those Walter Monheit blurbs in Spy Magazine back in the day. (In fairness it should be pointed out that the Spy Magazine TV Special in the late 80's was ably hosted by a young Jerry Seinfeld.)

henry s, Friday, 10 May 2024 19:30 (two weeks ago) link

Ha I thought the movie was funny -- Austin Powers-esque zaniness. I have to admit I'm a cereal fanatic, so humour involving Battle Creek, MI, and niacin is up my alley.

Some side bits were amazingly unfunny, but it's hardly the worst thing put out by Netflix this month, let alone decade.

Sam Weller, Monday, 13 May 2024 11:56 (two weeks ago) link

We had a "wellbeing at work" webinar at work today, and I was pleased to see this very famous quote by Jerry Seinfeld appear in one of the slides. (The speaker pronounced his name as "Jerry Seenfelt")

https://www.brainyquote.com/photos_tr/en/j/jerryseinfeld/390027/jerryseinfeld1-2x.jpg

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 14 May 2024 11:18 (two weeks ago) link

"So how come I feel so tired when I go to the gym? What's that about?"

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 11:21 (two weeks ago) link

Unfrosted was very dumb but that felt like it was the point. I laughed quite a bit at at it.

Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 11:37 (two weeks ago) link

I keep seeing people say that Unfrosted was like one of the ridiculous fictional movies from 30 Rock, which seems fair, only they mean it as a bad thing, imo it was like that in a good way.

Platinum Penguin Pavilion (soref), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 13:19 (two weeks ago) link

Memoir: Michael Richards on chaos factor in art and life, trying to get his shit together, esp. after The Incident.
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/books/story/2024-05-26/michael-richards-racist-tirade-apology-book-seinfeld-kramer?utm_source=pocket-newtab-en-us

dow, Monday, 27 May 2024 21:10 (three days ago) link

To be honest I’ve always felt a little bad for him on that, maybe he’s got a history of being a racist asshole but I don’t think that’s the case, it kinda looks like he had a psychotic breakdown in public. And now it’s the one thing he’s most famous for. Just a total nightmare situation

frogbs, Monday, 27 May 2024 21:45 (three days ago) link


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