i'm glad i was proved wrong here and this turned out to be a great film
― Ant Attack.. (Ste), Sunday, 25 January 2009 04:25 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.englishforums.com/English/GrammarMiamiViceMovieTrailer/czwqv/post.htm
― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Wednesday, 10 June 2009 11:15 (fifteen years ago) link
That grammer thread was more entertaining than this movie.
It's pretty great though, the series, even if there's a lot of rerunning of similar plots I still love Manns arty neon shots. And sooo many cameo roles (never realised Steve Buscemi had been in it).
otm. Season One was nearly perfect television (then it fell off the rails, sadly).
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 10 June 2009 11:26 (fifteen years ago) link
nrq you are apparently the tv series dvd expert. at £45 this seems like a pretty good deal, yes? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Miami-Vice-Complete-Collection-DVD/dp/B000SLW43M/
― caek, Saturday, 18 July 2009 03:03 (fifteen years ago) link
fuckin love this movie which is on atm.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 27 July 2009 01:38 (fifteen years ago) link
WHAT CHANNEL
― meme-first attitude (J0rdan S.), Monday, 27 July 2009 01:42 (fifteen years ago) link
Universal HD. climactic shootout comin up
― call all destroyer, Monday, 27 July 2009 01:44 (fifteen years ago) link
the praise heaped on this film on ILX made me watch it for the first time. i'd just like to say 'thankyou ilx!' and also that i'm absolutely flabbergasted this movie wasn't better recived by the critics. it's *brilliant*! wipes the floor with just about any big budget hollywood action movie i can think of from these last few years.some have noted that the trailers made it look like BAD BOYS or whatever and yet it's an art film in many ways so it got a widespread 'huh?' from shoot-em-up loving teens etc.
the trailer park scene is one of the most tense i've ever seen.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 05:56 (fifteen years ago) link
the saddest thing is that if it had been any kind of hit, Mann wanted to do a sequel.
― Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 4 August 2009 07:06 (fifteen years ago) link
I should see this again. I remember just about zero about it, which usually is a sign that it's kind of a forgettable movie. But Mann is easy to underestimate, and I would at the very least enjoy LOOKING at it again.
― reared on Shakespeare (kenan), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 07:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Ha! Me, from earlier in the thread:
I won't remember anything about it in a month except for the way it looked, but hey.
I have to agree with myself here, if only for purely practical reasons.
― reared on Shakespeare (kenan), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 07:13 (fifteen years ago) link
i just saw this and it is fucking astonishing. so bummed i didn't see it in theatres.
― LaMonte, Saturday, 10 October 2009 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.leftfieldcinema.com/misunderstood-modern-cinema-miami-vice
― piscesx, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 05:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Mann in the past has been well known for some of the ill-conceived music choices he made in his 1980’s films Manhunter and The Keep, in the case of the former in particular the soundtrack was the biggest issue the film has to contend with
absolutely no desire to read any more in an essay that contains this sentence
― max, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 14:37 (fourteen years ago) link
lot of run-on sentences in that post
― max, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 14:38 (fourteen years ago) link
Thief's score is worse.
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 14:41 (fourteen years ago) link
i dont remember the score from thief which is usually a good thing w/ mann ficks--collateral and miami vice both had horrendous soundtracks (which i think sort of "worked" with the aesthetic), but manhunter had a rad soundtrack iirc
― max, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 14:42 (fourteen years ago) link
Thief had that Tangerine Dream score, which was great.
― The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 14:47 (fourteen years ago) link
omg garda da vida (or however you spell it) is fucking ace!
― bracken free ditch (Ste), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 15:08 (fourteen years ago) link
okay that was less of a score, as it was a part in the film. the score was amazing too.
― bracken free ditch (Ste), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 15:09 (fourteen years ago) link
That article . . . ugh. It did make one valid point: The film would have been better served if it wasn't named Miami Vice. I suppose it's okay to belittle the audience for expecting to see a rehash or parody or pastiche of the TV show. But it's also hard to blame the audience for those expectations, since they were set by a deliberate choice of the filmmakers, who undoubtedly wanted the film to benefit from a direct association with the show.
The problems with this movie weren't addressed in the article. First, the acting was wooden. Second, Colin Farrell -- who absolutely was the lead, with everyone else, including Foxx, as distant supporting players -- had no presence, charisma, or charm. Third, quite a bit of the dialogue was hamfisted, and it stood out even more because of Mann's effort to make the film gritty and realistic (the dialogue wasn't helped by the acting, e.g., the stiff "I'm a fiend for mojitos" line).
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 18 November 2009 16:01 (fourteen years ago) link
i dont get why its weird to call the film miami vice? the aesthetic of the movie and the aesthetic of the show seemed pretty similar to me.
― max, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link
There are better articles than that one on the film, seeing as it has been elevated to the level of masterpiece by the blogosophere.
― The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link
seems like whoever wrote that isn't familiar with the original series at all
― luol deng (am0n), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah
― max, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link
was thinking maybe piscesx wrote it
― SMH (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link
i think the acting style and dialogue is vastly secondary to how the film was shot, scored, edited, and framed. not a criticism, i just think that mann was trying to make an entire picture of nothing but "michael mann moments" (and trying to get some kind of emotion from what some folks might find to be a cold style and story) and he succeeded. it's like 'gaucho' or something.
― jØrdån (omar little), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 16:19 (fourteen years ago) link
i was actually lookin for the miami vice dvd last week and couldnt find it anywhere, i was suddenly overtaken with the urge to listen to the commentary~
i will say that the score of manhunter was super distracting to me for some reason, normally i dig that kind of crap
not readin that gay article tho
― NEW YORK DESERVED 9-11 (cankles), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link
i think the commentary is only available on the director's cut, which isn't as good as the theatrical. shame.
― The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link
my man michael mann's manhunter
― SMH (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link
watched this again recently---i think omar's kinda right, in that the acting really is secondary to what mann is trying to do visually/etc., and that's basically OK (then again, i really just intensely disliked colin farrell)
but i dunno, it's too long (would rather watch Heat), and i think Collateral did just as well at capturing that aesthetic (or w/e) and was just a tighter, more enjoyable film in general.
― itdn put butt in the display name (gbx), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link
it's funny to say something is too long and then say you'd rather watch heat.
― omaha deserved 311 (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 16:32 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't disagree. But that just means, in the overall scheme of things, acting is secondary to other elements of the film. It doesn't mean that the dialogue has to be bad or the acting stiff and flat.
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 18 November 2009 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link
aesthetically it was manns best - in other ways it was one of his worst - but it all kinda worked in a purposely non working style - i enjoyed it immensely - especially the flying parts - so much so i saw it 2 times on teh big screen
― SMH (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 16:35 (fourteen years ago) link
it's funny to say something is too long and then say you'd rather watch heat.― omaha deserved 311 (call all destroyer), Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:32 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― omaha deserved 311 (call all destroyer), Wednesday, November 18, 2009 10:32 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
uh? what i mean is: if i'm gonna watch a long-ass michael mann movie, i'd rather watch Heat
― itdn put butt in the display name (gbx), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link
does anyone understand the promise and peril of dv better than mann - no one does - think abt it
― SMH (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 16:36 (fourteen years ago) link
also i think i would've enjoyed this MUCH more if i'd seen it in the theater
soderbergh, maybe? xp
i dunno
lol soderbergh doesnt know shit about shit
― NEW YORK DESERVED 9-11 (cankles), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link
i fart on him
was gonna say
― SMH (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link
if u say so! i don't think i've seen a soderbergh movie since traffic (lol), just know that he's really "into" dv
― itdn put butt in the display name (gbx), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 16:38 (fourteen years ago) link
i am not a soderbergh guy really but i thank him for telling clooney he sucked, causing him to vastly improve
― jØrdån (omar little), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link
but it was spielberg who told him to not move his head around so much
― SMH (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 16:40 (fourteen years ago) link
also obv i am retarded because i have seen all of the ocean's AND solaris (which i don't really remember thx w3333d)
― itdn put butt in the display name (gbx), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 16:41 (fourteen years ago) link
lol out of sight is good - after that naaaaah
― SMH (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 16:41 (fourteen years ago) link
gotta say tho that i really, really love dv/HD when it's done right
― itdn put butt in the display name (gbx), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 16:42 (fourteen years ago) link
mee too
― SMH (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link
there were a couple of crazily wonderful scenes in public enemies where i was all wow he just showed me something
― SMH (ice cr?m), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 16:44 (fourteen years ago) link
public enemies is frustratin for me, there's stuff in it that's as good as anything he's done since heat but idk if i could even watch it again cuz of the scenes where the feds beat up his old lady, 2 hard 2 watch
― NEW YORK DESERVED 9-11 (cankles), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 16:47 (fourteen years ago) link