Best CHEERS character

oh man, Reelz is running the first Lilith episode! she dumps Fraser in the first act and then Sam sets him up with Jennifer Tilly, never saw this before

It is really hard to settle on a favorite character aside from Diane (who could be far too grating which I realize was part of the character, but still).

this was the right result

Cheers writer Ken Levine disagrees with this graph from the internet:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-HyxKHsCu5sI/UFnzNPQ2imI/AAAAAAAAM-8/yzkiDrw4tyM/s1600/cheers-20110908-090007.jpg

As someone who wrote these characters for nine years, this would be my order:

Lilith
Frasier
Diane
(now comes a big drop)
Sam
Rebecca
Carla
Norm
Cliff

Coach
Woody

Sam was dumbed down over the years but at least during the first few seasons he was very smart and savvy. So if you average his IQ over the seasons he still comes out way ahead, certainly better than Cliff.

I can't believe they put Cliff anywhere near the top.

Why Coach over Woody? They were both pretty addled. But you figure that before he was hit in the head by too many fastballs, the Coach was probably smarter. Although, now that I think about it, how intelligent do you have to be to just get out of the way?

ken levine otm, internet image macro infographic off the money

cliff that high is just bonkers

the placement of cliff that high makes me question the intelligence of the infographic creator. i imagine a cliff-like being putting together this sequence, rationalizing it in a way that sounds decent if you're not really paying attention, but if you are, you just shake your head in wonder at the ability of humanity to justify its stupidity

i imagine a cliff-like being putting together this sequence,

yes otm

Yeah, what's up with that?

lol i love the idea of some credulous viewer thinking that Cliff is the wise sage who has so much knowledge

The main hook to Cliff's character was that he never had a clue what he was talking about; that chart is hilarious.

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Cliff being smarter than Carla would invalidate every single interaction they ever had!

they did sort of play him that way in the earliest eps, but they quickly realized it was funnier to undercut his knowitall interjections

re: being a wise sage

Cliff on Jeopardy is one of TV's all time classic episodes.

Norm's ability to effortlessly zing people is all-time, the writers obviously valued that.`

Cliff as standup is one of my favourite episodes ever (My Son The Father, I believe)

I voted Cliff but immediately wished I'd actually voted Rebecca.

Team Carla, obv.

haha i just watched an episode that ends with Woody outsmarting Sam (after Sam promises him a raise of $100 a month, Woody says "that's too steep, I'll settle for $30 a week" and Sam acts like he was a master negotiator)

that's quintessential cheers for me - everyone thinks they have one up on somebody, and they're rarely right (including frasier, often)

didn't woody end up being mayor of boston or something?

oh god yes. another of frasier's plans gone wrong.

city councilman

frasier was such a great character on cheers, but i really tired of his sitcom very quickly. like the hunting of the snipe episode, or the one where he's getting the bar interested in charles dickens by adding grisly horror and action movie details to the stories. "it's a far far better butt-kicking i give today, than i have ever butt-kicked before." genius.

http://distilleryimage8.s3.amazonaws.com/29401414c22d11e1b10e123138105d6b_7.jpg

also
http://distilleryimage10.s3.amazonaws.com/ebb2fa58e71611e18a3522000a1cf770_7.jpg

i'm really impressed by how they were able to find old timey photographs of barhounds in the opening credits that were analogs to the characters. the ones for frazier and rebecca are especially good.

and i saw this place in portugal last week
http://distilleryimage9.s3.amazonaws.com/71562b9405a811e283fd123138141137_7.jpg

they did their research, i'll give them that
http://distilleryimage5.s3.amazonaws.com/a9a96dda05a811e2a336123138178793_7.jpg

awesome

every once in a while i think about the (last) wwi vet who streaked out of the back room yelling 'lafayette we are here!'

http://www.paulsiegelcommlaw.com/Communication%20Law%20in%20America/Additional%20Images/Chapter%205/cheers%20collage.jpg

stevie's 2nd pic, daaaamn

Hahaha, I've been looking FOR YEARS for photos of those things.

Animatronic Claven kinda looks like George W. Bush.

i'm really impressed by how they were able to find old timey photographs of barhounds in the opening credits that were analogs to the characters. the ones for frazier and rebecca are especially good.

Are those real photos though? I've always thought they were made up, because they show scenes from the late 19th/early 20th century of fancily dressed white guys drinking alongside black guys and women, which I assume wasn't how bars for upper/middle class white men were back then.

Or maybe the photos are real and the drawn pictures in the beginning of the credits aren't?

pretty sure all the stuff is real and old tbh but i don't know for sure

they were all real

Is there any info available where/when the pics are from?

They had something up on the official website about it when the series first ran, but they took the site down after the last episode aired in 1993.

Cheers had an official website back then?! Must've been one of the first TV series to have one.

Anyway, I'm not saying the drawn pics are fake, but some of them look a bit dubious to me, especially the one seen here at 0:17, where you can see a black guy drinking with middle-class white guys, in a setting that appears to be a late 19th century bar. Weren't bars like this segregated in the US back then?

Not all of them and not everywhere. I grew up in a very old harbor town; bars weren't really segregated until the 20th Century. Working class sailor bars were mixed; fancy establishments were de facto segregated, but that was more a question of class.

The bad thing about this thread is I want to take a couple of days off of work to watch Cheers.

I can't see anything bad about that at all.

They had something up on the official website about it when the series first ran, but they took the site down after the last episode aired in 1993.

― Trad., Arrrgh (stevie), Thursday, September 27, 2012 4:29 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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