Pretend you have a ballot for the 2012 edition of Sight & Sound's top 10 movies of all time list

Which Straub-Huillet should I watch first?

Anna Magdalena Bach.

discussion in which Dan Callahan takes up the "where is comedy and/or Hawks" cry.

http://www.bfi.org.uk/news/reviewing-greatest-films-all-time-part-two-back-future-poll

welp done til '22 then

I don't track this, and only know because a friend posted about it: the annual They Shoot Pictures, Don't They? Top 1000.

http://www.theyshootpictures.com/gf1000_all1000films_table.php

I like their #1 better than Sight & Sound's.

That's nice.

All the Chris Markers moved up in the rankings tho, so thumbs up to this.

The highest new entry that I can see is Harlan County; highest ranking of the four 2011 (i.e., most recent) films, The Tree of Life.

I was just looking at last year's list on Letterboxd to check out my unseens (about 170). Now I have to deal with a new shakeup.

and yes, clemenza, you are always wrong.

Beyond the Valley of the Dolls claws its way to #996. Ebert death bump.

what the hell is natural born killers doing there

way better than The Lives of Others

Good to see Avatar, Ghostbusters and Robocop finally getting the credit they deserve.

And Citizen Kane.

Those top ten rankings are adamantine.

Tell that to The Searchers. No really, tell it.

http://www.theyshootpictures.com/gf1000.htm

Seventy-seven films, however, had to make way, and two legendary German/Hollywood filmmakers, Fritz Lang and Douglas Sirk, were the most affected (along with King Vidor), each losing three films from the list.

Pouring one out for Sirk.

The Winners – Top Climbers within the 1,000
Chronicle of a Summer (1961)… 627 to 356 (up 271 spots)
Red Sorghum (1987)… 869 to 605 (up 264 spots)
Tie Xi Qu: West of the Tracks (2003))… 662 to 410 (up 252 spots)
Grey Gardens (1975)… 625 to 379 (up 246 spots)
Yellow Earth (1984)… 673 to 435 (up 238 spots)

The Winners – Highest Entrants into the 1,000
The Emperor's Naked Army Marches On (1987), ranked 545
Harlan County, U.S.A. (1976), ranked 572
Ashes of Time (1994), ranked 631
Empire (1964), ranked 658
Ulysses' Gaze (1995), ranked 689

The Losers – Biggest Fallers within the 1,000
The Thief of Bagdad (1940) 692 to 836 (down 144)
The Red Balloon (1956) 606 to 743 (down 137)
Dracula (1958) 826 to 952 (down 126)
Fort Apache (1948) 756 to 871 (down 115)
Edward Scissorhands (1990) 718 to 830 (down 112)

The Losers – Biggest Fallers from the 1,000
La Nuit de carrefour (1932), formerly ranked 806
India: Matri Bhumi (1959), formerly ranked 810
Midnight Run (1988), formerly ranked 832
Swing Time (1936), formerly ranked 844
Late Chrysanthemums (1954), formerly ranked 846

Grey Gardens (1975)… 625 to 379 (up 246 spots)!!!!!!!

Right at the top of the page in zing:

mann ditching resnais for biutiful and claude levi strauss' 'avatar'

biutiful is no fucking good at all

I misread mann as man & thought this was referring to the actual s&s list D:

I thought it was referring to Anthony Mann's list.

Looks like Sight & Sound's documentaries list was responsible for most of the winners here.

Also: Chinese films have done well this year. Wasn't there a Greatest Chinese Films list?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_R4PUMY8HEM8/S7vX9aTRzII/AAAAAAAADQ0/kMb-x-HJUvA/s1600/magnifying-glass.gif

Films I haven't seen in that top 100 - Brighter Summer Day, Greed

would have loved to have seen Anthony Mann's list. I guess w'll be waiting for a while.

This could get out of hand...

For the ranking-hungry who may fancy a little detective work, you can actually piece together many of the rankings beyond the 1,000 by viewing the acclaimed films pages of TSPDT-listed directors. For example, see Alfred Hitchcock’s acclaimed films page.

1958	Vertigo	128	Col	2	
1960	Psycho	109	BW	29	
1954	Rear Window	112	Col	45	
1959	North by Northwest	136	Col	63	
1946	Notorious	101	BW	127	
1963	Birds, The	120	Col	204	
1964	Marnie	129	Col	338	
1951	Strangers on a Train	101	BW	400	
1940	Rebecca	130	BW	501	
1943	Shadow of a Doubt	108	BW	519	
1935	39 Steps, The	87	BW	550	
1938	Lady Vanishes, The	97	BW	640	
1948	Rope	80	Col	972	
1956	Wrong Man, The	105	BW	1475	
1929	Blackmail	86	BW	1762	
1940	Foreign Correspondent	119	BW	1865	
1972	Frenzy	116	Col	1915	
1926	Lodger, The	75	BW	2249	
1945	Spellbound	111	BW	2369	
1949	Under Capricorn	117	Col	2829	
1932	Rich and Strange	92	BW	3294	
1955	Trouble with Harry, The	99	Col	3423	
1954	Dial M for Murder	105	Col	3447	
1955	To Catch a Thief	106	Col	3489	
1937	Young and Innocent	80	BW	3776	
1936	Sabotage	76	BW	4006	
1930	Murder!	108	BW	4122	
1944	Lifeboat	96	BW	4143	
1976	Family Plot	120	Col	4172	
1969	Topaz	127	Col	4620	
1966	Torn Curtain	128	Col	4838	
1934	Man Who Knew Too Much, The	75	BW	4880	
1942	Saboteur	108	BW	5047	
1953	I Confess	95	BW	5474	
1941	Suspicion	99	BW	5823	
1950	Stage Fright	110	BW	7233	
1936	Secret Agent	86	BW	8703	
1956	Man Who Knew Too Much, The	120	Col	8806	
1932	Number Seventeen	83	BW	11302	
1927	Ring, The	73	BW	12728

what, no Jamaica Inn?

I haven't seen The Ring, but Number Seventeen has long been my go-to pick as the worst Hitchcock I've seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfZ2GTptp6o

Those top ten rankings are adamantine.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)

Dr. Lilith Sternin-Crane: If I had a problem and needed to talk to someone about it, would it be perpetuating a stereotype to actually select a bartender?
Sam Malone: It depends.
Dr. Lilith Sternin-Crane: On what?
Sam Malone: On what you just said.

The list's two-reelers:

Minutes	Title	Director	Year
1	Arrivee d'un train a la Ciotat, L'	Lumiere, August & Louis Lumiere	1895
4	Mothlight	Brakhage, Stan	1963
7	Arnulf Rainer	Kubelka, Peter	1960
10	Outer Space	Tscherkassky, Peter	1999
13	Unsere Afrikareise	Kubelka, Peter	1966
14	Voyage dans la lune, Le	Melies, Georges	1902
15	Meshes of the Afternoon	Deren, Maya	1943
16	Chien andalou, Un	Bunuel, Luis	1928
20	Listen to Britain	Jennings, Humphrey	1942
20	House is Black, The	Farrokhzad, Forugh	1963
20	Sang des betes, Le	Franju, Georges	1949
26	Chant d'amour, Un	Genet, Jean	1950
27	Jetee, La	Marker, Chris	1962
28	Land Without Bread	Bunuel, Luis	1932
29	Tale of Tales	Norshteyn, Yuriy	1979
29	Scorpio Rising	Anger, Kenneth	1964
29	Seasons, The	Peleshian, Artavazd	1975
32	Night and Fog	Resnais, Alain	1955
32	Act of Seeing with One's Own Eyes, The	Brakhage, Stan	1971
34	Red Balloon, The	Lamorisse, Albert	1956
36	Maitres fous, Les	Rouch, Jean	1955
39	Elephant	Clarke, Alan	1989
40	Partie de campagne	Renoir, Jean	1936
40	Diary for Timothy, A	Jennings, Humphrey	1945
41	Zero for Conduct	Vigo, Jean	1933
43	Flaming Creatures	Smith, Jack	1963
43	Simon of the Desert	Bunuel, Luis	1965
44	Sherlock Jr.	Keaton, Buster	1924
45	Wavelength	Snow, Michael	1967

Longer than Gone with the Wind:

Minutes	Title	Director	Year
229	Once Upon a Time in America	Leone, Sergio	1984
230	Travelling Players, The	Angelopoulos, Theo	1975
235	Napoleon	Gance, Abel	1927
235	Ludwig	Visconti, Luchino	1972
237	Brighter Summer Day, A	Yang, Edward	1991
240	Belle noiseuse, La	Rivette, Jacques	1991
240	Grin Without a Cat	Marker, Chris	1977
245	1900	Bertolucci, Bernardo	1976
260	Sorrow and the Pity, The	Ophuls, Marcel	1969
260	Hour of the Furnaces, The	Getino & Solanas	1968
260	Doomed Love	de Oliveira, Manoel	1978
265	Histoire(s) du cinema	Godard, Jean-Luc	1998
267	Hotel Terminus	Ophuls, Marcel	1987
270	Dr. Mabuse, The Gambler	Lang, Fritz	1922
273	Roue, La	Gance, Abel	1923
288	As I Was Moving Ahead Occasionally I Saw Brief Glimpses of Beauty	Mekas, Jonas	2000
345	Commune (Paris, 1871), La	Watkins, Peter	2000
357	War and Peace	Bondarchuk, Sergei	1967
440	Vampires, Les	Feuillade, Louis	1915
442	Hitler: A Film from Germany	Syberberg, Hans-Jurgen	1977
450	Satantango	Tarr, Bela	1994
485	Empire	Warhol, Andy	1964
550	Dekalog	Kieslowski, Krzysztof	1988
551	Tie Xi Qu: West of the Tracks	Wang Bing	2003
566	Shoah	Lanzmann, Claude	1985
729	Out 1, noli me tangere	Rivette, Jacques	1971
894	Berlin Alexanderplatz	Fassbinder, Rainer Werner	1980
940	Heimat	Reitz, Edgar	1984

Grey Gardens (1975)… 625 to 379 (up 246 spots)!!!!!!!

Yeah, i've seen the trailer for the new 4K version 3x in the last week. Ironic fairies need to get a life.

especially at the expense of

The Thief of Bagdad (1940) 692 to 836 (down 144)

People love that movie ironically? News to me.

xp nearly as satisfying

The sum running time for all the films in the first list put together is 777 min; still shorter than Alexanderplatz and Heimat.

A "two-reeler" in the literal, trad sense is about 16-20 minutes. Sherlock Jr was five.

Right, I was going off of what current (i.e. before digital made the term antiquated) standards for reel length were.

i actually don't remember if i've seen Number Seventeen, but Jamaica Inn is significantly better than Topaz and a few of the silents. (I have about five extant Hitch features to go, all pre-'34.)

you guys seen Heimat?

Sheesh I've seen a lot of films that are longer than Gone with the Wind this must stop.

no, but i said heimat when i saw matt

Those top ten rankings are adamantine.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Lifeandhealth/Pix/pictures/2009/6/10/1244622031353/Adam-Ant-in-1981-001.jpg

> 550 Dekalog Kieslowski

this is cheating

> 440 Vampires

this too

They were made for TV? If so then Berlin Alexanderplatz and Doomed Love (which is Oliveira holy grail). Maybe Histoires du Cinema. I think La Commune began as a project for TV.

Hitler: A Film from Germany is also TV.

The version of Out 1 in circulation is also the slightly revised/shortened 'tv version' (Rivette divided the film up into chapters for a possible television sale, but I don't think it was every broadcast in that or any other form)

the heimat prequel this year was good imo

more that they were filmed in episodes, released as parts. if vampires is in then why not "flash gordon" tv series? why not "rocky"?

bbc4 showed Shoah for holocaust memorial day, well, spread over two sundays. took me about a week to watch in stages of about an hour each.

who knows - this list would never include "rocky" because its shit :-)

I didn't include Out 1 because it got a cinematic release => well that magical day in 1971 when one cinema in Paris gave it a go LOL.

Not sure if I can be arsed to see part 2 of Shoah. I'll boast now I sat through 4.5 hours for the 1st part, but I got all pissy at Lanzmann that bullying idiot so I might have to youtube the barbershop episode instead.