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wha' happened?

Chris V. (Chris V), Monday, 12 May 2003 10:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

wha' happened?

Argh, I keep saying this since I saw the movie on Saturday. I am probably driving poor Dan to madness.

Nicole (Nicole), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

I saw it yesterday and liked it. Fred Willard just rules.

Chris V. (Chris V), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

Like JBR sez, I could be happy just watching him. The second he appeared on screen there was hysteria and it just kept building.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 12 May 2003 12:16 (twenty-one years ago) link

I read today that the lines are improvised in Guests movies. I didn't know that, I dig that.

Chris V. (Chris V), Monday, 12 May 2003 12:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

When I went to see BEST IN SHOW with my friend, he couldn't stomach it because part hit too close to home --- his mom, who is a pretty terrible person, is an airheaded lady, obsessed with her dog, and married to a man almost 90 years old. Watching basically the same person up on the screen gave him the willies.

We went to see A MIGHTY WIND this weekend, and Mickie's character is disgustingly close to my ex-boyfriend's mom, who is a creepy Minnesotan earth-mother type who was always hinting at how she wanted to be my creepy Minneston earth-mother-in-law. She looks eerily like Mickie, sounds the same, and even plays the autoharp. It was too much!

Other than that, the film was hilarious. ME & my friend were the only ones in the theatre, which is The Ultimate Way to see a movie. He kept shouting "Spinal Tap!"

Fivvy (Fivvy), Monday, 12 May 2003 13:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

Also, I liked Levy's character a lot. Parker Posey was such an irritating dweeb, as were almost all the Main Street Singers, but that just made them really funny.

Fivvy (Fivvy), Monday, 12 May 2003 13:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

ME & my friend were the only ones in the theatre, which is The Ultimate Way to see a movie.

I've had this happen a few times -- it is a joy.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 12 May 2003 13:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

the wall of names credits was so weird, so similar to the Vietnam memorial. I actually thought that was kinda creepy.

hstencil, Monday, 12 May 2003 13:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

Slutsky, have you seen "This Is Spinal Tap"? It was done almost exactly the same way. I am also confused by your condemnation of "point-of-view" shots when half of them were intercuts between the people interacting with the alleged interviewer and interacting with each other.

I like Spinal Tap a lot; to me, this movie played with the documentary aesthetic and kept it up throughout the movie. Mighty Wind has stuff (like the shot of Eugene Levy wandering around New York) that couldn't have possibly been captured by a documentary camera. To me, this is annoying.

slutsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 13 May 2003 01:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

I finally saw this, agree with everyone on here, even when it contradicts, but I have to big-up Dan for saying that Ed Begley Jr. was underrated. He was great, one of my favorite characters. The model train line got the biggest laugh at my theater too. I'm another one of the anti-Levy contingent. Harry Shearer was great too.

NA. (Nick A.), Monday, 19 May 2003 13:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

I just saw Spellbound, the Oscar-nominated documentary about the National Spelling Bee. Christ almighty, this is the best film Christopher Guest never directed. But real!

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 17:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

best = funniest

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 17:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

yeah, I really want to see that

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 18:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

It probably doesn't plumb as many insights about spelling-bees-as-American-cultural-phenomenon as it could. But for sheer entertainment value, it's hard to beat.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 18:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

Having heard the soundtrack (thanks Arthur!), I have to say that the Folksmen's cover of "Start Me Up" is one of the best things I have ever heard.

Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 18:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

espn reaired the 1997 spelling bee the other night. i was drunk. i watched it, thus i should see that spelling movee!

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 18:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

i'm pro-levy, but really pro-o'hara. she should really win an oscar for this performance. there's a really great dynamic between those two that i guess has been going on since the SCTV days, but it really unfolds here (and i'm not just talking about "the kiss").

i think fred willard is hilarious, but he's so over the top that guest was wise to only put a little bit of him in the film. too much would be too much. and we'll always have the dvd outtakes for that stuff.

we really oughta move this to I Love Film! there's not enough traffic there.

j fail (cenotaph), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 19:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

I wonder how many ILXors are former spelling bee champs.

*raises hand*

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 19:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

Everything in j fail's last post is completely OTM.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 19:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

really? what word did you win on?

(x-post)

slutsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 19:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

I don't remember. I was 9. But I went on to the borough-wide spelling bee and lost on "license." I've taken pains to spell that word correctly EVER SINCE.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 19:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

The ultimate spelling bee drama:

http://www.snoopygift.com/books/1532.gif

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 19:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

I finally saw this on Saturday. "The kiss" was very moving. The years together as performers and friends showed. The woman telling her porn star story had tears running down my face, as did the ROYGBIV song. I love that Guest's movies aren't excessively long, too.

Bryan (Bryan), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 19:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

Let's move the spelling bee chat where it belongs: Howard Scripps Spelling Bee

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 20 May 2003 19:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

four months pass...
I finally saw this movie; at first I thought Levy was pushing it for his character, but realized about half-way in that, rather than seeming an awkwardly-forced-performance, it was more of a natural-performance-of-an-EXTREMELY-awkward-character. Catherine O'Hara was so refreshing as usual too. I loved how they both did very well to play on the obvious still-lingering feelings between their characters. Plus that tension between them & the kiss I think made this more than just another Guest-mockumentary as there was a really huge emotional depth to that scene.

Other stuff I really really loved: the little "short-films" wink, Harry Shearer going into the Spanish Civil War history, the scene where the guy asked to take off his sweater and he got lectured about how he "wasn't ready yet", the smack-on-top-of-the-head, and Parker Posey being too corny to not be funny.

And I swear, at the rate Fred Willard keeps getting funnier in each Guest film he's in, I'm seriously gonna explode a testicle in whatever comes next. His suggestion to The New Main Street SIngers on what they should do on the show cracked my shit up!

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 25 September 2003 13:50 (twenty years ago) link

Wha' happened?

Chris V. (Chris V), Thursday, 25 September 2003 14:19 (twenty years ago) link

Heh heh heh. Must get DVD.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 25 September 2003 14:46 (twenty years ago) link

three months pass...
Here in rainy London town i am awaiting this movie with feverish anticipation. I *hope* it's brilliant.

pete s, Wednesday, 31 December 2003 01:54 (twenty years ago) link

And I still must get DVD!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 02:02 (twenty years ago) link

wha' happened.

Chris 'Knuckle Deep' V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 13:51 (twenty years ago) link

i got the dvd for $10 at blockbuster (someone gave me a gift card for christmas). it's used, but in good enough shape for me!

maura (maura), Thursday, 1 January 2004 21:46 (twenty years ago) link

And yay I got a copy used yesterday as well! :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 January 2004 21:48 (twenty years ago) link

I got a copy from my sister for X-mas. Maybe not classic, but definitely not a dud.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 2 January 2004 04:10 (twenty years ago) link

And having just watched it again, it holds up. Rah! The extras should be great fun.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 2 January 2004 04:14 (twenty years ago) link

roots & fruits.

cozen¡ (Cozen), Friday, 2 January 2004 04:22 (twenty years ago) link

i hope everyone who wanted to see Spellbound got to, it's terrific.

g--ff (gcannon), Friday, 2 January 2004 08:34 (twenty years ago) link

I finally saw A Mighty Wind. It's nowhere as good as the earlier films (little to no character development, more clip and interview heavy) but Eugene Levy, Fred Willard and the Folksmen (save for their PATHETIC final scene) are funny enough that I'm glad I saw it.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 2 January 2004 20:13 (twenty years ago) link

I thought on second viewing that the Folksmen's final scene was perfectly painful and specifically not-exactly-funny, a really good capturing of what happens when performances go completely wrong. I still think this is probably my favorite of the Guest mockumentaries, although I think I might also like Best in Show as much.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 2 January 2004 20:17 (twenty years ago) link

Last night, I went to see Big Fish, which was as bad as I thought it would be. So, in an effort to get the bad taste out of our mouths, my best friend and I watched Guffman for like the zillionth time. Let me add that I'm not someone who watches movies over and over: there's probably only 20 or so movies that I've seen more than once, and under 10 that I've seen more than twice. But Guffman NEVER fails to make me laugh. At this point, it's like total comfort food for me.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 January 2004 21:14 (twenty years ago) link

I still maintain that Spellbound was a better Guest film than A Mighty Wind. On Slate, David Edelstein listed it as his #1.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 January 2004 21:16 (twenty years ago) link

I was disappointed in it, for many of the reasons listed above, but seriously, "Potato's in the Paddy Wagon" by the New Main Street Singers is probably one of the ten songs I've played the most this year. It's ridiculous and ridiculously catchy. Am I alone, here, in loving this song?

I may just dig out that New Christy Minstrels album I have in my closet...let's see...sweet jesus, does a band really need six guitars and three banjos?! It's like acoustic Branca. And they all are holding them up at greater-than-45-degree angles.

Ernest P. (ernestp), Saturday, 3 January 2004 06:20 (twenty years ago) link

Oh dear god.

http://www.thenewchristyminstrels.com/Discography/6302%20-%20In%20Person.jpg

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 3 January 2004 06:26 (twenty years ago) link

"Country and Western Music Has a Message"? "Temperance and the Gutter Set"? "Personal Account Of Something Unique in Animal Husbandry"? "Bits and Pieces: Historical Chatter on Capital Punishment"? Is this the only group in history that simultaneously influenced Godspeed You Yawnsome Bastards and the Polyphonic Fuckfaces?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 3 January 2004 06:28 (twenty years ago) link

I dunno, but "Temperance and the Gutter Set" does sound like the name of an unreleased Lifter Puller b-side.

nate detritus (natedetritus), Saturday, 3 January 2004 06:30 (twenty years ago) link

I have now started an ILM thread to discuss the New Christy Minstrels conundrum.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 3 January 2004 06:34 (twenty years ago) link

Ned, THAT'S THE ALBUM I HAVE!!!

Okay, I'm putting it on the stereo RIGHT NOW.

Ernest P. (ernestp), Saturday, 3 January 2004 06:50 (twenty years ago) link

Please report (on that other thread too).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 3 January 2004 07:03 (twenty years ago) link

I second the notion that Waiting For Guffman (and Spinal Tap too) only gets funnier with every viewing. and I hate to watch most movies more than once.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 3 January 2004 18:33 (twenty years ago) link

Report on New Christy Minstrels here.

Ernest P. (ernestp), Sunday, 4 January 2004 05:34 (twenty years ago) link

I should watch this again. Mascots popped up on Netflix and had us in stitches.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Saturday, 18 July 2020 01:32 (three years ago) link

I didn’t dig this much apart from Fred Willard, should watch again

brimstead, Saturday, 18 July 2020 01:54 (three years ago) link

Ends with an antediluvian joke where the joke is just that Chris Guest’s character is a trans woman but still sings bass, iirc

all cats are beautiful (silby), Saturday, 18 July 2020 01:59 (three years ago) link

it was actually Harry Shearer but yea

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 July 2020 02:04 (three years ago) link

All of the music was sung/played live which is pretty impressive.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 18 July 2020 05:01 (three years ago) link

There is a thread on here somewhere about the treatment of LGBTQ characters in Guest's films and the above bit was not beyond reproach.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 18 July 2020 05:03 (three years ago) link

Where’s the real mayor? Someone shot the mayor, but they did not shoot the deputy.
Incidentally, the D.A.’s office called. They can’t find any witness, so he’s in the clear, Your Honor.

Speaking of Your Honor, I was at a swinger’s party the other night and a fellow says
to me “I’d like to meet your wife,” and I said “Your Honor!”

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 18 July 2020 05:18 (three years ago) link

Watched Mascots for the first time last night and it was surprisingly delightful.

change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 18 July 2020 14:13 (three years ago) link

Huh thought Mascots was very very bad. Eugene Levy has a lot to do with the artistic and comedic success of the earlier films.

Boring, Maryland, Saturday, 18 July 2020 14:21 (three years ago) link

the transgender "joke" definitely was uncomfortable, since it was fairly obvious Shearer's character is the butt of the joke. Can agree it was antediluvian but I will admit around the time that film came out, my reaction probably would have been different than it would today, as back in 2003 I didn't know anybody that was transgender or know much about gender dysphoria or the trans community at all.

kind of a bummer note to end the movie on, yeah.

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 July 2020 14:33 (three years ago) link

I had low expectations, and it's better than most of what's on Netflix. Mostly it was nice to see the regular players again, especially since we've been rewatching Party Down and some other shows where they pop up a lot.

change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 18 July 2020 16:48 (three years ago) link

two years pass...

Finally saw this recently. It might not have been quite as laugh-out-loud funny as Guffman or Best in Show, but it had a warmth to it that I really enjoyed, and there are some great bits -- Bob Balaban completely misunderstanding basic stagecraft and concert setup, warning the audience about the plants in the lobby, Jennifer Coolidge's line about model trains, Ed Begley Jr as a philosemitic Swede public tv producer who can't stop dropping yiddish into conversations, the spanish civil war song, "wha happened" etc. The rehearsal scenes especially felt very much like a real band reuniting for a concert. My grandparents were very much in the Chicago folk scene and I grew up hearing the music and stories, so it felt very close to home for me. I thought they captured a very specific slice of that scene very well -- not so much the Dylans and Dave Van Ronks, but the Kingston Trio type bands (I loved that the Folksmen sneered at the commercialism of the New Main Street Singers while only being a notch or so less commercial). "Eat at Joes" felt very real. These seemed very much like the bands that would do a hastily thrown together multi-act reunion concert for public tv, whereas the more *serious* acts probably wouldn't.

Mixed feelings about the Eugene Levy performance - I got the sense that he was supposed to be either acid burnout or nervous breakdown, but it was a little hard to tell if it was that or if he had had that same weird stilted speech when he was young. A bit one-note and underdeveloped.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 29 January 2023 04:06 (one year ago) link

The titles and cover shots of Mitch’s solo albums are hysterical

Alicia Silver Stone (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 29 January 2023 17:33 (one year ago) link


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