i mean its kinda like saying im not a regular at this bar i just come here all the time once every four years.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
yeah 'progressive' as a term is pretty nebulous in american politics - you have genuine the nation type progressives and you have pretty much standard liberals like obama and clinton that prefer to be called progressives cuz gingrich, atwater, et al did such an effective job rebranding 'liberal'.
― balls, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link
i mean its kinda like saying im not a regular at this bar i just come to this bar thats only open once every four years all the time once every four years.
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link
don't forget he tiny slice of the electorate that's really serious about TR/lafollette politics.
― goole, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link
*polishes waistcoat buttons*
― goole, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link
except bar is actually open every two years and progressives end up like brat pack at end of st elmo's fire wondering what happened to this place while eric cantor is inside doing body shots
― balls, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link
Bar's open all the time - the Koch Brothers don't wake from their slumber on Nov 6th of ever year that's divisible by 4, for example.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link
sry no maths in the bar gonna have to ask u to leave
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link
"maths"
― gesange der yuengling (crüt), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link
libertarianism liberalism is kind of like being a liberal without having to give a shit about anyone poorer than you
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link
left-wing people talking shit about 'liberalism' is the politics equivalent of people on ilm talking about 'white people'
― iatee, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link
― gesange der yuengling (crüt), Wednesday, October 3, 2012 4:06 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
wot is there a problem m8
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link
when you watch Judge Napolitano types they kind of revel in being atomized individuals. They have even less interest in being a coherent band fighting for principles than Democrats do. Why should you fight for principles when you don't believe in a government willing to use its own moral authority or police power to enforce them?
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link
since when is alfred 'left-wing' people?
― Mordy, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link
since when have you thought I was anything else?
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link
i have never heard alfred offer a heterodox opinion, tho i have on occasion heard him offer that he holds them
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link
ILX: land of the homodoxy.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link
okay lol
― set me on fire RAAAAH (DJP), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― balls, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link
'heterodox' is one of those words that sounds more fun than it actually is
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link
like titmouse
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link
or anal retentive. i used to think liberals and progressives were much more likely to be self-critical, skeptical of their side, heterodox and less likely to be 'fuck the other team!' sheeple than conservatives. then came facebook.
― balls, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link
i know we've done alfred's TRU political ideology b4 but honestly i can't remember the conclusion of that debacle and my day2day impression is that it's MOR moderate that digs officials w/ charisma. obv left enough to hang on ilx (i always wish we could rustle up a few more legit conservatives for maximum clusterfuck enjoyment), but not what i'd consider ##srs## left-wingism.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link
on the other hand "satrap" is fun the whole lib family can enjoy
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
it's MOR moderate that digs officials w/ charisma
lol you are confusing me with Andrew Sullivan.
yeah, tbh i kinda think of you as ilx's personal andrew sullivan
― Mordy, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
aw
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
that is the sweetest, most endearing insult I've ever read
― set me on fire RAAAAH (DJP), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link
I don't mind being submitted for analysis but I'm about as immune to charisma in politicians as ILM is to Libertines records. I mean, I never voted for Obama, and I've never fucked a bear, with or without an online ad.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
are we playing two truths and a lie
― iatee, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link
hahahaha
― set me on fire RAAAAH (DJP), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link
and you would be the lie?
xpost
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:33 (eleven years ago) link
where's don weiner? He tried to pass for a conservative
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link
is whiney ilx dick morris?
― balls, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link
does that make deej Breitbart?
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link
weiner was actual libertarian! i liked him though i think i pissed him off once when i compared libertarians to scientologists.
― balls, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link
dom as tucker carlson, supposedly still alive out there on the web but really who knows. gabbneb as mickey kaus too obv but true.
― balls, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
i used to think liberals and progressives were much more likely to be self-critical, skeptical of their side, heterodox and less likely to be 'fuck the other team!' sheeple than conservatives. then came facebook.
― balls
otm
― omar little, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
how do you prove someone is a libertarian? There's always a breaking point with those self-professed libertarian types.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
lex as anne coulter too obv but true also (iirc he'd welcome the comparison)
― balls, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
if you want to privatize roads...you might be a libertarian
roger adultery as the nuge?
― omar little, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
before Facebook liberals did what -- read Lewis Lapham?
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
hi thread, not all gays have daddy issues, andrew sullivan is not one of them. that is all.
― We demand justice: who murdered Chanel? (Matt P), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link
a daddy, a gay, a thread?
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link
― iatee, Wednesday, 3 October 2012
is this disappearing POC on ILX while defusing green, socialist, commie, or anarchist critiques as their being liberals really?
― zvookster, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link
in any case, OP needs a vs iatee option
― zvookster, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.theonion.com/articles/louis-lapham-went-way-over-the-line-this-time,10926/
― balls, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link
"This asshole always seems to pick just the right Edith Wharton quote to really make my blood boil."
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link
sorry, he is not one of the gays who do not have daddy issues. *checks watch* time for me to go xp
― We demand justice: who murdered Chanel? (Matt P), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link