uh in the way you just described
movies are not rituals
― stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 October 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link
let me submit to you to consider that maybe they are sometimes
― / me, / me. /. /. (goole), Monday, 8 October 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link
altho maybe for you guys watching Bond films are a ritual - you go through the motions in order to be comforted by their unchanging nature? I dunno.
xp
― stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 October 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link
I take it you haven't seen this, SMC.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0281724/
― clemenza, Monday, 8 October 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link
bond movies are constructed more like a long running tv series where these regular notes the films hit become like, idk, norm walking into cheers with another joke or columbo coming back with "one more question" or rod serling's VO. it's also probably overstated how much the films rely on those series tropes, and also they've been kind of messing w/the formula a bit ever since felix leiter got half eaten by a shark.
― omar little, Monday, 8 October 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link
omar otm x 2 - eurobabes are key. or just ridiculously beautiful women that haven't been over publicized by Maxim's hottest thousand list every 2 months. Berry & Richards were gorgeous at the time but eveyrone knew it so it was almost boring to have them there...whereas those lesser-known/exotic beautiful women add more intrigue or something idk
and Nicole def otm with OHMSS -- EXCITEMENT! DANGER! around every corner when it's playing
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 October 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link
omar stop being otm
shakey otm
― omar little, Monday, 8 October 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link
ty
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 October 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link
yeah idg how the rules and conventions of bond films are really any different, more ritualized or restrictive than any genre conventions or dramatic conventions in general.
― wk, Monday, 8 October 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link
tbf, the titles are not particularly useful when trying to tell 23 movies over 50 years apart
dr. no, goldfinger and the man with the third nipple at least tell you who the villain is. the latter three brosnans are particularly unhelpful
― mookieproof, Monday, 8 October 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link
particularly
pierce brosnan's delivery of the de-rigeur Bond puns was always u_u
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 October 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
like that whole Christmas coming once a year or w/e
lol
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 8 October 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link
i think the denise richards and the second dalton are the only ones i haven't seen, though several i haven't seen in forever. thank you ted turner.
― balls, Monday, 8 October 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link
007 DAYS OF 007
― / me, / me. /. /. (goole), Monday, 8 October 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link
syfy did a bond marathon last Thanksgiving...I wonder if they'll do it this year
I'm in the mood for a bondathon
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 October 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link
big problem with the Brosnan ones was that there was one good film and then a quick decline into the most joyless shit imaginable
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 8 October 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link
was goldeneye actually any good though? kinda suspect more a case of brosnan was good for role, they got some stuff right, we were happy to have bond back and recognizable than goldeneye was actually good. haven't seen it since it was in the theater so i could be wrong.
― balls, Monday, 8 October 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link
It has some parts where it's a slog, but Sean Bean makes for a good villain and has a decent backstory (tries for almost-as-serious as recent Bond), Famke Janssen is a ridiculous foil/female villain, and Alan Cumming's character always seems on the verge of being from a different, more comedic, film but pulls it off.
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 8 October 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link
no ridiculous sciencey macguffin thing, either, just an almost-plausible ex-soviet weapon hijacked, with a decent reason given for why the plot goes to different locations
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 8 October 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link
i think brosnan was just an average bond but he has probably had the most interesting post-007 career of any of the bonds.
― omar little, Monday, 8 October 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link
connery had an epic career of course but brosnan's has been a little more unpredictable is what i'm saying.
― omar little, Monday, 8 October 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link
yeah looking back it's pretty campy and i thought Sean Bean is kinda hammy in it but i haven't seen it for a while. has some great bits (the opening stunt obviously, the psychotic bad girl, Dench's first outing as M..) but is only 'pretty good' imo compared to the previous re-boot The Living Daylights which i still say is THE criminally under-rated Bond film.
― piscesx, Monday, 8 October 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link
Brosnan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p7Gk1y-boM
goldeneye was sort of right time, right place and it doesn't hold up spectacularly well, but it's still a solid bond and better than the rest of the brozzies
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 8 October 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link
the rest were like "whoa weapon shit or something, he's james bond, he jumps around a lot blah blah"
the one with sophie marceau/robert carlyle had some moments, like the sadistic/erotic chair torture scene, but it also had denise richards as a nuclear scientist. seemed like the plots were mostly charisma-free zones
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 8 October 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link
tomorrow never dies seems like the biggest missed opportunity to me. 97 hk handover + michelle yeoh awesome foundation for an interesting/cool bond, too bad it was dumbass crap
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 8 October 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link
yup, I was looking at the list of Brosnan movies and that one was just boooooring, nothing truly offensive that sticks out in my mind
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 8 October 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link
and ott product placement, so even though the cars and gadgets had always been the focus those brosnan ones just got ridic, like watching an aston martin infomercial with occasional dialogue
though I haven't seen any of the brosnans for a long time so maybe I'm exaggerating that?
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 October 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
no, you're completely correct
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link
If for no other reason than this one, I'm glad Punk'd existed.
They sent that smartass kid out to the red carpet at some event and he asked Denise Richards "How did it feel to play someone smart?"
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 8 October 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link
I need to rewatch The Living Daylights. Should I?
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link
omigod I had no idea this existed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUgy7fpUR2A
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
whoa
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:22 (eleven years ago) link
If movies are not rituals, somebody is gonna need to explain The Room and The Rocky Horror Picture Show a little better.
― Tom Hardy & the Batbreakers (Phil D.), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:23 (eleven years ago) link
Goldeneye is solid as hell and it has the tank chase through St. Petersburg which is the best.
But the game kind of improved on some of it so that's hanging over it.
― Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:26 (eleven years ago) link
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)
Absolutely, it's in my top three.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link
Top three Bonds that is, not top three all movies.
Encore showed all (or most) of them a few months ago. I caught Diamonds are Forever and gee willickers that's a stinker. I had completely blocked out the goofball comic villain duo.
― Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:31 (eleven years ago) link
you guys are confusing ritual movie viewing with actual movies. this whole holiday = movie analogy is stupid
― stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:31 (eleven years ago) link
It's a good movie, captures the mid 90's as much as TLD and LTK capture the late 80's. Dench is great as M, Michael Kitchen good as Tanner, Bean great as the villain (driven as much by his rivalry/envy of Bond as his desire for money/revenge). And the tank chase is brilliant.
― a great poke for Jet Set Willy (snoball), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:31 (eleven years ago) link
this blogger has been going through them all each Sunday for the past several months.
― Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link
I like that the score he gives has to do with the quality of the Bond tropes and not the actual quality of the film.
― Legendary General Cypher Raige (Gukbe), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link
geez he sure likes ranking things out of 5
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:42 (eleven years ago) link
he's kinda otm about Pussy Galore - I always like her more nostalgically than I do when I watch the movie, I forget she's hardly in it
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 8 October 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link
I rather like the two Dalton films, but I'm probably in the minority.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 8 October 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
First one hell yes, second one fuck no.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 8 October 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link
I swear I loved Octopussy among the "heresy Bonds", it was just a ridiculous blast. Haven't seen it in almost 30 years tho.
― cancer, kizz my hairy irish azz (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 October 2012 23:13 (eleven years ago) link