If you could push a button and simply cease to exist, would you press it?

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but once you get to explore space and hang out with other civs, it would be cool

wolves lacan, Friday, 12 October 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

with all ur power

Randy Carol (darraghmac), Friday, 12 October 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

I also would be freaked out by living for millions of years

Yeah 'cause you'd end up falling in love with Andie McDowell

The windiest militant trash (Michael White), Friday, 12 October 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

I wld live for a million years if each month of each year would pass by as quickly as like, say, a second

乒乓, Friday, 12 October 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

nah you'd become a starchild and go to a shittily decorated room

Randy Carol (darraghmac), Friday, 12 October 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link

people would come up to me and point and say "there stands the slowest person in the world" but of course it would sound like high pitched unintelligible squeaking to me

乒乓, Friday, 12 October 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

I think human quest for immortality will have to keep scaling up slowly; Kurzweilian singularity would just upset everyone

www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Friday, 12 October 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

What about a button, or machine, that when you enter it, you play out the rest of our life in a virtual state where everything plays out in the most positive possible way. You wouldn't even realise it wasn't real and you were guaranteed that everything in your life were to pan out in utter bliss. Would you do it?

― where is el airoporto? (dog latin), Friday, October 12, 2012 1:17 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

only if the machine also chopped up my body and sprayed bits of me into the faces of everyone who's ever loved me

there is no dana, only (goole), Friday, 12 October 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

i mean, let's raise the stakes here

there is no dana, only (goole), Friday, 12 October 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

"Music was so much better in the 2070's. Fuckin' hell."

The windiest militant trash (Michael White), Friday, 12 October 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

people would come up to me and point and say "there stands the slowest person in the world" but of course it would sound like high pitched unintelligible squeaking to me

this must be what life is like for starfish, which are, in a way, "starchildren of the universe"

Thanks WEBSITE!! (Z S), Friday, 12 October 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link

sprayed bits of me into the faces of everyone who's ever loved me

There goes my crush on goole...

The windiest militant trash (Michael White), Friday, 12 October 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link

we used to play a game in the car where we imagined having a button that when we pressed it [something would happen], often what it would do would be to make mcdonald's chicken mcnuggets appear in the car for us to enjoy or for a magical tunnel to open up in front of us and take us straight home

www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Friday, 12 October 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

so what I'm saying is there's way cooler shit to accomplish with a magic button

www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Friday, 12 October 2012 19:54 (eleven years ago) link

Today it might simply consist of a button to make all my co-workers simply cease to exist...

The windiest militant trash (Michael White), Friday, 12 October 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link

great thread btw

it appears WCC is through with it now, but it is impossible to wall off this discussion from consideration of suicide. the scenario is about suicide + magic

there is no dana, only (goole), Friday, 12 October 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

I would love a button to make my coworkers turn into gin and tonics.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 October 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link

Alfred, I would gay marry you in an instant if you had that button.

The windiest militant trash (Michael White), Friday, 12 October 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link

You guys I pressed the button ;_;

Tom Hardy & the Batbreakers (Phil D.), Friday, 12 October 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

based on the number of responses in this thread, it seems like this question pushed a lot of people's buttons

congratulations (n/a), Friday, 12 October 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

I really hope this button makes a fart sound when you press it.

The windiest militant trash (Michael White), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

that's every button

The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

if you shaved an hour off sleep, that's like living an extra day or three each month, and an hour is probably manageable without any health problems. But if you don't do it, it's like hitting the suicide button for a day every month. No magic! Just accounting!

Philip Nunez, Friday, 12 October 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

well i take it back. accounting is a form of black magic

Philip Nunez, Friday, 12 October 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

"that was easy!"

Mordy, Friday, 12 October 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

an hour is probably manageable without any health problems

the health problems may just emerge more slowly

Aimless, Friday, 12 October 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

why even bother with the caveats of no pain to yourself, or to others?

there are plenty of ways to kill yourself that are painless, that hardly needs a magic get-out. and as long as you don't have any beliefs in the soul that persists no matter your wishes (or if you do, assume that this magic button makes god himself forget, for good measure), the pain it causes to others would be a null issue to you the you who no longer and never existed.

i will say that this exact scenario/thought has definitely occupied my mind in long dark moments of my life. there were times when i would absolutely press it. now i absolutely wouldn't.

there is no dana, only (goole), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link

how would you ever reset a bad day, sleep is like a magical button you push when youre not in the zone

the worse my day, the less likely that I'll be able to sleep at the end of it

the thing forks's count-your-blessings screed doesn't take into account is "people who have suffered losses which they feel they cannot bear": I have a couple of these; some people don't, may their days be long. My days are filled with joy & I love my life & I'm going to live to an abominably old age like everybody else in my family, but I also carry grief from which I will never be free and that descends on me like a cloud. I'd guess I've spent as much time in therapy as anybody I know & I'm a healthy motherfucker generally speaking but this magic button means an unimaginable kind of relief, so its appeal seems obvious, although since nonexistence is literally incomprehensible imo concepts like "relief" don't really articulate with it

I should say though that the best current reason to push the button when it finally gets invented is that it will troll the hell out of this thread

this is reminding me of a Raymond Smullyan story

www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

... and the realization that i was tempted to end it all, except for the fact that i didn't want to hurt anyone else, was itself realization enough that i didn't really want it to be over.

xp to myself

there is no dana, only (goole), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

isn't the M*A*S*H theme song about this thread?

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

would be a null issue to you the you who no longer and never existed.

Second nail in the coffin of my putative goole crush. Surely you'll grant that living or alive, you mean no harm to your closest? Yes, you won't care one way or another, but you'd die knowing you flaked on your beloveds.

The windiest militant trash (Michael White), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

Or what goole said to himself

The windiest militant trash (Michael White), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:08 (eleven years ago) link

if you could push a button and you'd cease to exist on ILX, would you do it?

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

I think the button would be more tantalizing if it was a re-set button that randomly turned you into someone different; age, race, gender, orientation, taste, location, era... "Fancy your chances, eh?"

The windiest militant trash (Michael White), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

it'd make a political career a little easier

xp

there is no dana, only (goole), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

now singing 'pieces of goole' to the tune of the cure's pictures of you

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

if you could push a button and you'd cease to exist on ILX, would you do it?

Pity the poor souls for whom that button is merely 'Submit Post'.

The windiest militant trash (Michael White), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

if you could push a button and become bob marley, would you?
-bob marley

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

what about if you could push a button and the button ceased to exist?

borscht and bikinis (how's life), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

"people who have suffered losses which they feel they cannot bear"

this is interesting, because the statement isn't connected to whether the person can or cannot bear the loss, but rather their perception of their ability to bear the loss and how that perception becomes reality

it is particularly interesting in the context of our current round of political theater, where the demeanor of our candidates appears to be more important than the positions they take; you could use both to extrapolate an argument that questions the actual existence of "facts"

The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

An Unfortunate Dualist

www.toilet-guru.com (silby), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKbpjw3_EZM

Mordy, Friday, 12 October 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link

aero very much otm 8 million posts back on this freight train of a thread

Old Lunch, Friday, 12 October 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

what if to the world it looked like you ceased to exist, but to you it looked like the rest of the world ceased and you're in the void, alone with only your own thoughts?

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

this is interesting, because the statement isn't connected to whether the person can or cannot bear the loss, but rather their perception of their ability to bear the loss and how that perception becomes reality

well - the concept of being able to bear something is entirely subjective. strictly speaking, anybody can bear anything that won't literally kill them. the question is whether the thing in question makes that person's life feel as though it is not worth living.

and you're in the void, alone with only your own thoughts?

This reminds me of Borges' desert 'labyrinth'.

The windiest militant trash (Michael White), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

well - the concept of being able to bear something is entirely subjective. strictly speaking, anybody can bear anything that won't literally kill them. the question is whether the thing in question makes that person's life feel as though it is not worth living.

on a daily basis, American society makes me feel like life isn't worth living; however, because I am an egotistical, contrary bastard, this just makes me want to live forever so I can continue to sneer at it

The Owls of Ja Rule (DJP), Friday, 12 October 2012 20:16 (eleven years ago) link

^^^ posts by people who have figured out how to live imo

How many of you would want a button that lets you nap instantly? because you'd just need to put some duct tape over that button...

Philip Nunez, Friday, 12 October 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link


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