what a great use of the bbc archivists' time
― NAMES A CUNTZ FAE RENFRA (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
hang on, music changes the way we feel about the images we're seeing?
― only Brod can judge me (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 17:15 (eleven years ago) link
it's true tho, the final scene of andrei rublev is subtly different when set to bbbbbounce by the blackout crew
― NAMES A CUNTZ FAE RENFRA (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link
oh you guys..
― piscesx, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link
But in amongst all this new-found self-confidence among the pets of Britain there were still the ghosts of the old rigid owner-pet power structure
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/blogadamcurtis/posts/HEAVY-PETTING
― woof, Thursday, 20 December 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link
i can't even
― jabba hands, Thursday, 20 December 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link
the kind of self-parody i could get behind tbh
― ledge, Thursday, 20 December 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link
also looking forward to seeing all these videos of dogs
but this was a fantasy
― ledge, Thursday, 20 December 2012 16:27 (eleven years ago) link
― woof
― jabba hands, Thursday, 20 December 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link
in reality, pets had been learning to post on forums
― woof, Thursday, 20 December 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link
tbf i think the bit I posted was curtis-does-curtis for lols.
― woof, Thursday, 20 December 2012 16:34 (eleven years ago) link
a radical new form of lol
― difficult listening hour, Thursday, 20 December 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link
where should i start with this guy?
― caek, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 12:42 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=x1bX3F7uTrg
― ledge, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 12:44 (eleven years ago) link
I would say The Mayfair Set: it's a bit more tightly focused than the later work, & the narrative's a bit cleaner, though it keeps going to odd interesting places. Full of fascinating slightly monstrous sorts - Goldsmith, Aspinall etc.
― woof, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 12:49 (eleven years ago) link
good grief charlie brooker has a lot to answer for xp
thanks woof
― caek, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 10:52 (eleven years ago) link
Did you guys know about this: http://www.mif.co.uk/event/massive-attack-v-adam-curtis
It Felt Like A Kiss a few years ago was hands down the most mind-blowing few hours of my life. Can't wait for this one.
― NI, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 22:23 (eleven years ago) link
the financial journalist in the second episode (Christopher Fildes) is amazing. 'I and other people in the financial press were willing dupes'. Can't be said enough. Very good documentaries - nothing more plainly connects the switch from paternalistic (the paternalism of a grotesque controlling father) to unmediated unapologetic-yet-duplicitous socially destructive greed, which is also the recent history of the Tory party.
― Say Bo to a (Fizzles), Thursday, 7 February 2013 20:55 (eleven years ago) link
YOU THINK YOU ARE A CONSUMER BUT MAYBE YOU HAVE BEEN CONSUMED
Haven't watched these clips yet but I do love his TITLES.
― Alba, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
The cuts may be right, or they may be stupid - but the astonishing thing is how no-one really challenges them.
orly
I think that one of the reasons for this is because a lot of the power that shapes our lives today has become invisible - and so it is difficult to see how it really works and even more difficult to challenge it
difficult to challenge yes, invisible no. these days there are probably as many people trying to pull the wool away from our eyes as trying to pull it over.
― ledge, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 11:36 (eleven years ago) link
finished the mayfair set. a little shrill perhaps, but interesting.
and p.s. hmm, the treatment of mohammed al fayed was a little bit ... euphemistic. i'm not saying it was explicitly racist. that is for other people to say.
― caek, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
blimey ..this is dire
http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/interactive/2013/jul/08/adam-curtis-massive-attack-what-is-reality
― mohel hell (Bob Six), Monday, 8 July 2013 22:35 (ten years ago) link
Seems to have been taken down.
― Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Monday, 8 July 2013 22:55 (ten years ago) link
What was that, Bob Six?
― Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 02:16 (ten years ago) link
It says "This article was temporarily taken down on Monday 8 July 2013."
Was an except of a poem/text that went with a video installation he did with Massive Attack in Manchester. Several b/w pics, maybe a video clip (couldn't see, was on my phone), quite long, didn't read, just scrolled and saw bits and pieces here and there - do you know what reality is, nicolai ceaucescu and his wife were shot, that's about all I remember :-/
― StanM, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 03:04 (ten years ago) link
More info without the actual excerpt: http://m.guardian.co.uk/music/2013/jul/07/adam-curtis-massive-attack-review
― StanM, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 03:09 (ten years ago) link
it's had a few sniffy reviews up here even from the Curtis fanbase. a fair few people walked out of the opening night supposedly; spending 2 hours standing up (with no bar!) in a darkened warehouse on a Friday night hasn't gone down to well with folk expecting a more traditional 'gig'.
£36 a pop too.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 05:29 (ten years ago) link
(SPOILER)
liz fraser's in it.
yeah, it's pretty disappointing, esp if you went to It Felt Like A Kiss a few years back. spoke to AC afterwards and he said he's working on turning the current thing into TV production for the BBC but there's a bunch of legal issues to get past so it might never happen (will prob end up on his blog though). He's also working on a new documentary series about massive institutions and how they're broken - including the BBC - *for* the BBC.
― NI, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 14:18 (ten years ago) link
http://www.latitudefestival.com/line-up/artist/alan-moore-mitch-jenkins-adam-curtis
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 14:22 (ten years ago) link
"RD Laing challenged the psychiatric establishment in the 1960s THATCHER THATCHER DEATH WE ARE ALL PROSTITUTES something about prozac"
― the SI unit of ignorance (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 14:23 (ten years ago) link
"but this was an illusion."
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 18:05 (ten years ago) link
Got tix for this off the back of Curtis's involvement rather than Massive Attack, looking back upthread seems nuts that It Felt Like A Kiss was 4 years ago. Generally hit a lot of the MIF events, but with recent Babby A we could only really organise childcare for one proper evening event.
I read quite a lot of the mealy mouthed early reviews and was ready to be underwhelmed, but in the end came away feeling like it was something of a triumph - the immersive nature of the film screening was really effective and MA's involvement was understated yet powerful, takes a bit of grit for a band to avoid playing almost any of their own material and the covers were mostly great. I felt like Liz Fraser was a bit underutilised, but god hearing that voice live was a treat and the Russian pop song super beautiful. Could spend a long time going round the plughole of what Curtis is actually saying, and picking his argument apart, but during the show I was swept up into it and enjoyed it very much (same went for Mrs A and friends we were with). The Saturday night crowd laid into some thunderous applause at the end, and didn't see any walkouts from where we were. The Mayfield Depot was a v interesting and cavernous space to stage it in too, odd to think that such huge structures still lie derelict in the heart of the city.
On a tenuous note, we'd also been for a meal at Zouk in Manchester beforehand and Daddy G was in there, dining solo, on some kind of grilled chicken starter and then steak in a "lonely guy thinking baout things" mode.
― that mustardless plate (Bill A), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 20:25 (ten years ago) link
Adam Curtis on MI5:http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/posts/BUGGER
― slippery kelp on the tide (a passing spacecadet), Sunday, 11 August 2013 19:57 (ten years ago) link
Watch the film before you read Curtis on the people featured:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/posts/ONES-PRIVATE-LIFE
― Alba, Sunday, 19 January 2014 18:12 (ten years ago) link
Enjoyed the Whicker documentary.
It was interesting to see Elizabeth Jane Howard, as I'm just reading her autobiography and just finished the part covering her marriage to Peter Scott.
― mohel hell (Bob Six), Sunday, 19 January 2014 22:20 (ten years ago) link
oh Adampaws
http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/2014/02/adam-curtis-interview
― Kim Wrong-un (Neil S), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 09:13 (ten years ago) link
i sort of like the general ways this guy's mind works (esp. his emphasis on how right-thinking decisions can have disastrous or just bizarre unintended consequences, or his general chaos theory of world civilization) but the actual films (or videos) strike me as kind of 'roided out and glib. i'm not sure if i'm expected to take them as righteous muckraking or a kind of craig-baldwin-esque video theater and i don't think the confusion is particularly educational.
― espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 09:22 (ten years ago) link
He turned out to be engaging and personable, veering frantically one from one topic to another,
this basically describes his films
― espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 09:23 (ten years ago) link
yeah a sort of ADD thing. What I thought was a bit 0_0 in that interview were his pronouncements on music, I mean who knew that Rihanna might be making better records than the Arctic Monkeys? SCALES FALL FROM EYES
― Kim Wrong-un (Neil S), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 09:24 (ten years ago) link
also it kind of figures that he's one of those britishers who confuses "the state of music" with "the type of music that gets covered in the UK music press"
― espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 09:25 (ten years ago) link
"i am so tired of how ALL OF MUSIC is just looking backwards, viz. savages"
britishers seem to get all up in arms arguing about music that they would be perfectly within their rights to be ignoring like everybody else
― espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 09:27 (ten years ago) link
he also reminds me that punk rockers (and post-punk non-rockers) are among other things late baby boomers. that punk was a trend WITHIN baby-boom culture, not against it. 'cos just sub out a few words and he could just as easily be saying, "music isn't original anymore. remember when we had STEPPENWOLF?!"
― espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 09:29 (ten years ago) link
also i get the feeling from his work that he's both sententious /and/ misanthropic, which is kind of a toxic combo.
― espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 09:31 (ten years ago) link
(as some ILX posters habitually remind me)
What people are yearning for now is some kind of romantic visions of something beyond our present condition, and that would be good music.
thanks, prof!
― espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 09:33 (ten years ago) link
it's kind of endearing that the best he can come up with is Massive Attack, lol 1992 grandad! But then again, I guess we shouldn't be surprised that a middle aged bloke is a raging rockist.
― Kim Wrong-un (Neil S), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 09:38 (ten years ago) link
he's a rockist in popist clothes
― espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 09:54 (ten years ago) link