kinda wanna rub that pic in the face of all the Heinlein dorks who complained about the lack of powered armor in the Starship Troopers movie
― fiscal cliff huxtable (latebloomer), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 21:59 (eleven years ago) link
Lack of Cruise-powered armor, maybe.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 November 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link
Born on the 4th moon of July
― ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Wednesday, 14 November 2012 22:33 (eleven years ago) link
live at Lincoln Center
http://www.filmlinc.com/films/on-sale/an-evening-with-tom-cruise-featuring-jack-reacher
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 04:03 (eleven years ago) link
^postponed due to Newtown. Plays right into the hands of "movies cause shootings" crap.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/moviesnow/la-et-mn-jack-reacher-screening-tom-cruise-postponed-20121217,0,288283.story
also, Herzog's name in this is THE ZEC.
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link
mondo pumped for j-reach
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link
Trailer for Oblivion = live action Wall-E with guns. Sold!
― fiscal cliff huxtable (latebloomer), Wednesday, 19 December 2012 00:20 (eleven years ago) link
Laser guns
yeah oblivion looks great
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 19 December 2012 00:22 (eleven years ago) link
are we talking about oblivion anywhere? it surprised me how much i liked it
― max, Saturday, 27 April 2013 12:31 (eleven years ago) link
You and no one else, I guess.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 April 2013 13:03 (eleven years ago) link
what abt the place beyond the pines, it was super rad
― lag∞n, Saturday, 27 April 2013 13:05 (eleven years ago) link
its good, worth seeing on the big screen. really beautifully shot + art-directed (TONS of stuff lifted well + smartly from star wars, which was kind of a surprise), hilariously OTT bombastic score by m83. couple dumb easy-to-guess plot surprises. no real characters to speak of so everyone gets by on the strength of charisma of which kurylenko doesnt have much but oh well
― max, Saturday, 27 April 2013 13:21 (eleven years ago) link
hmm i will probably go see this now, though i get it confused with that other one where Will Smith Watches His Son Grow Up On Screen
― 乒乓, Saturday, 27 April 2013 13:28 (eleven years ago) link
go in w/ mid-low expectations
― max, Saturday, 27 April 2013 13:49 (eleven years ago) link
for sure, the presence of cruise has already calibrated me
― 乒乓, Saturday, 27 April 2013 13:54 (eleven years ago) link
man what is w/ cruise hate. the guy makes good movies
― max, Saturday, 27 April 2013 14:03 (eleven years ago) link
ive talked about this on ilx before i always get the feeling im watching tom cruise play tom cruise playing john anderton, can never feel like im watching john anderton, always one level of removal, kinda like tom cruise offset controlling a tom cruise simulacrum onset, maybe he has one of those rc car remote controls w/ the antennas that he has to pull out, two d-pads
― 乒乓, Saturday, 27 April 2013 14:10 (eleven years ago) link
Read a funny essay (I think?) about how this is essentially the third "Jack" Cruise has played in a row. For all I know it was G@wker.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 April 2013 14:29 (eleven years ago) link
I liked Oblivion a lot, too. I was really confused by a review I heard where they claimed the plot was hard to follow.
― mh, Saturday, 27 April 2013 14:30 (eleven years ago) link
Another review pointed out how Cruise, who was once propelled by this constant swagger, has now sort of descended into middle-aged glum, an the swagger, when it appears, seems almost mechanical or artificial. Piece also pointed out that Cruise is not that old, yet has sort of boxed himself into these soulless roles. I'm sure he'll bounce back, since he does well when pushed, but he's simply too big an actor for most directors to push around.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 April 2013 14:32 (eleven years ago) link
I haven't seen it, but was frankly surprised by the amount of vitriol sent its way, either as the first of the summer's stupid dystopian action films or as one of the worse sci-fi exercises since "Battlefield Earth" (courtesy Edelstein).
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 April 2013 14:33 (eleven years ago) link
I kind of feel like he was always a stand in for a charismatic, energetic type and our society associates those with youth and he's destined to be cast as more of an empty shell as years go on
― mh, Saturday, 27 April 2013 14:34 (eleven years ago) link
we need an oblivion thread so I can post spoilers
Everybody likes the look of this, though. In fact, Edelstein iirc notes how surprised he was that the movie was bad enough to render the awesome look and design and DP work boring.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 April 2013 14:35 (eleven years ago) link
Was Cruise trying to beat out fellow Scientologist John Travolta for the honor of starring in the dumbest sci-fi epic ever? Thank heavens, he lost — nothing will ever be as shatteringly inane as the L. Ron Hubbard–based Battlefield Earth. But joining forces with the director of Tron: Legacy was like checking “d” on the form that said, “I want my space movies more (a) incoherent, (b) plodding, (c) migraine-inducing, or (d) all of the above.” Oblivion spins the same kind of paranoid futuristic fantasy as Battlefield Earth, in which a man must learn the true nature of his identity: that his body is but a temporary vessel, his soul immortal. Only then can he take on an evil empire of plundering anti-individualists from an unnamed planet that sounds like Xenu.Cruise was on a roll for a while with Magnolia and his two Spielberg pictures — his acting was grounded. But he must be shedding brain cells like wives. After all of these years, he still indicates rather than feels, signaling thought by wrinkling his brow and squinting real hard and looking like a caveman encountering fire for the first time. He looks less like mankind’s savior than like a harbinger of devolution — the last stage before we’re back at lungfish.
Cruise was on a roll for a while with Magnolia and his two Spielberg pictures — his acting was grounded. But he must be shedding brain cells like wives. After all of these years, he still indicates rather than feels, signaling thought by wrinkling his brow and squinting real hard and looking like a caveman encountering fire for the first time. He looks less like mankind’s savior than like a harbinger of devolution — the last stage before we’re back at lungfish.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 April 2013 14:36 (eleven years ago) link
It's kind of plodding but completely coherent to the point where I could predict the next plot revelation a few scenes ahead. It was Edelstein's review I heard on NPR and I was really wondering if he watched the same film
― mh, Saturday, 27 April 2013 14:38 (eleven years ago) link
i really totally forgot about that whole tron fiasco
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Saturday, 27 April 2013 14:44 (eleven years ago) link
Mh otm. Oblivion isn't incoherent, just kinda dull and predictable.
Tron Legacy was flat-out terrible.
― mackleless (latebloomer), Saturday, 27 April 2013 16:50 (eleven years ago) link
Like, I have a high tolerance for sci-fi gobbledygook but that was nearly unwatchable
― mackleless (latebloomer), Saturday, 27 April 2013 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
ive talked about this on ilx before i always get the feeling im watching tom cruise play tom cruise playing john anderton, can never feel like im watching john anderton, always one level of removal, kinda like tom cruise offset controlling a tom cruise simulacrum onset,
yeah it's like a fellow up and comer in the early eighties handed him a copy of Real Men Don't Quiche but instead of laughing he treated it like The Four Agreements.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 27 April 2013 17:10 (eleven years ago) link
Turtleneckin' it at the Oblivion premiere.
http://24.media.tumblr.com/c49f5e366e88229e66c50715f94bec73/tumblr_ml3w50qb1g1qmik36o1_1280.jpg
― cougars and sneezers (Eazy), Saturday, 27 April 2013 17:36 (eleven years ago) link
i like the touch of middle-aged weariness he has in his recent roles. thought it was perfect for ghost protocol
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, 27 April 2013 18:11 (eleven years ago) link
yeah hes been a roll lately. the barely perceptible exhaustion behind all the smirky charm is good for oblivion too
― max, Saturday, 27 April 2013 18:22 (eleven years ago) link
also:
It is one of the most visually spectacular movies I have seen. The first half is a very good movie in its own right. The second half is mostly narcissistic trash, only periodically compelling, in which Cruise also rewrites the story of his break-up with Nicole Kidman, in what seems to me an unseemly manner.Most of all, it is a Straussian commentary on Scientology (and Kidman), you can start your research here. I am stunned but not surprised that very few reviews have picked on this angle at all (so far it seems that none have and even Quora fell down on the job). Without such knowledge, the movie makes no sense whatsoever. With such knowledge, the movie is entirely coherent but in some regards more objectionable.There are also some nice references to other Cruise movies, such as Top Gun and Eyes Wide Shut, not to mention some of the non-Cruise classics of science fiction cinema, including Star Wars and 2001 and Solaris.I am very glad I saw this movie, but your mileage may vary. The Wikipedia entry is here.
Most of all, it is a Straussian commentary on Scientology (and Kidman), you can start your research here. I am stunned but not surprised that very few reviews have picked on this angle at all (so far it seems that none have and even Quora fell down on the job). Without such knowledge, the movie makes no sense whatsoever. With such knowledge, the movie is entirely coherent but in some regards more objectionable.
There are also some nice references to other Cruise movies, such as Top Gun and Eyes Wide Shut, not to mention some of the non-Cruise classics of science fiction cinema, including Star Wars and 2001 and Solaris.
I am very glad I saw this movie, but your mileage may vary. The Wikipedia entry is here.
http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2013/04/oblivion.html
I kind of thought the villain was a cross between HAL and v'ger
― mh, Saturday, 27 April 2013 18:27 (eleven years ago) link
yeah. almost all of this was lifted from better movies, but lifted well i thought
― max, Saturday, 27 April 2013 18:38 (eleven years ago) link
was kind of surprised at how much star wars was in it, actually, i feel like its been a while since ive seen star wars ideas & designs in a big sci-fi movie
not even the Star Wars prequels had sw ideas and designs in them
― 乒乓, Saturday, 27 April 2013 18:40 (eleven years ago) link
i heard oblivion was good from a friend w solid taste in sci-fi?
― the late great, Saturday, 27 April 2013 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
It's ok. Just kinda...flat? It might play better on TV.
― mackleless (latebloomer), Saturday, 27 April 2013 19:34 (eleven years ago) link
Most of all, it is a Straussian commentary on Scientology (and Kidman), you can start your research here. I am stunned but not surprised that very few reviews have picked on this angle at all (so far it seems that none have and even Quora fell down on the job).
not buying economics website!
― lag∞n, Saturday, 27 April 2013 19:43 (eleven years ago) link
it looks like something out of heavy metal (comics) to me which is cool
― the late great, Saturday, 27 April 2013 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
I liked it a lot vahid! Go see it on the big screen if you're gonna see it though--visuals are by a long shot the most compelling thihg
― max, Saturday, 27 April 2013 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
I got zero Scientology commentary but idk I am kind of obtuse
― mh, Saturday, 27 April 2013 20:19 (eleven years ago) link
I saw it, enjoyed it, ridiculous dialogue & plotholes but visuals were worth it.
Seriously extreme Scientology riffing throughout, amplified by the 'Making of After Earth' featurette played beforehand with Will Smith & son, which had a shot of Smith explaining how fear is an internal enemy to be eliminated over a full-screen close up of an exploding volcano
― Milton Parker, Saturday, 27 April 2013 20:42 (eleven years ago) link
it surprised me how much i liked it
I am not surprised, max.
― Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 27 April 2013 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
a shot of Smith explaining how fear is an internal enemy to be eliminated over a full-screen close up of an exploding volcano
:-O
― the late great, Saturday, 27 April 2013 21:13 (eleven years ago) link
Roman: I’m Roman. I’m a writer. I write movies and books. I have a blog. It’s pretty cool. So what kind of stuff are you in to?Porn star: All of it. What I really like is dragons.Romans: Dragons? Dragons are fantasy. If there’s magical talismans or a magic sword or wizards or fucking crazy not-real animals…. all these basic things that break laws of reality: that shit’s all fantasy. I’m into hard sci-fi. Fantasy is bullshit.
Porn star: All of it. What I really like is dragons.
Romans: Dragons? Dragons are fantasy. If there’s magical talismans or a magic sword or wizards or fucking crazy not-real animals…. all these basic things that break laws of reality: that shit’s all fantasy. I’m into hard sci-fi. Fantasy is bullshit.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 27 April 2013 22:06 (eleven years ago) link
??????
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 27 April 2013 22:09 (eleven years ago) link