This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2012

every movie these days is so fucking unnecessarily long... remember judd apatow's 2.5 hour movie FUNNY PEOPLE... jesus christ

some are sure, but DON'T go to fucking Apatowshit

anticomedy bias v disappointing in you, grasshopper.

Black's performance sunk it for me; couldn't buy the reality of the situation.

Completely agree. He was more muted and refined than usual but he was still himself. I could get past it.

http://www.michaelspornanimation.com/splog/wp-content/x/_MadMadWorld.jpg

pish tosh. IaMMMMW is not a true-crime black comedy, Smiler.

(also, JB standing outside the character in a "Look, he's gay" winky way bothered me)

(was in ref to 90-minute comedy limit ... which for the record I mostly agree with)

I don't even know what Bernie was about when watching it – and I like Linklater.

gotcha xp

it's a decent general rule which can be broken if there's a reason.

(Moonrise Kingdom is 94m, close enough)

I meant that I couldn't get past it. Stupid lazy typing.

Maclaine was great though. Also I liked the talking head interviews. I wish it had just been a documentary, actually.

i really liked bernie

also i really dont think there's any arguing that the general tend towards longness in mainstream fare is a terrible thing

There's like a weird dead zone for me between 105 minutes and 165 minutes. Less than that is admirably spry, more than that is probably using its duration as a formal device. In the middle is so often meh.

I mean, all movies should really be either 450 minutes or 12 seconds long.

we should just pick a length and make every movie conform to it, it'll probably spark more creativity than letting any old length happen

Lincoln shoulda been four hours, Silver Linings Playbook four milliseconds (i.e. the length of time we see a flash of Coopflesh).

The One Obstructions

on a related note, the Bigelow is apparently 160 mins w/ "around 120 speaking parts."

interesting, that means 40 minutes will be dialogue-free

seems like a good move under the circumstances; seeing it Thurs night.

Talking and waterboarding don't generally mix

carpetbagger:

"Here, a list of the things we learned at our fourth consecutive Gothams, Part 1:

Jared Leto is an award-winning documentary filmmaker. Under the pseudonym Bartholomew Cubbins, Mr. Leto, the actor and frontman of the band Thirty Seconds to Mars, made “Artifact,” the story of the group fighting to get out of its contract with the record label, EMI, which sued it for $30 million. The suit was later settled and the band made a concept album, “This Is War.” The film had its premiere at the Toronto International Film Festival in September and picked up the audience award at the Gothams. In his acceptance speech, Mr. Leto, sporting a ponytail and nail polish, thanked his mother, for teaching him how to lead a creative life.

Jared Leto has a lot of devoted Twitter fans. Upon learning of his win online, many replied that they were in tears, especially at his thanking of his mom. Mr. Leto and his date were seated at the Bagger’s table; they did not return after he won.

freakiiing▲Inna@Breathing_30STM
@JaredLeto You brought me to tears with all ur tweets. Jared, how can you be such a wonderful person? Thank you for e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g.
25 Nov 12

Jared Leto is starving himself – apparently for a role in “Dallas Buyers Club” with Matthew McConaughey, about the first users of the AIDS drug AZT – and yet still has a sense of humor

“I haven’t eaten in 21 days,” he told Mr. Birbiglia, after his opening monologue, “and that made me laugh.”"

lol about that leto movie, i remember reading the description of it at tiff and thinkng it should be called 'you should have such problems'

Criticwire adds 20 more movies to their must-see list for 2012:

http://blogs.indiewire.com/criticwire/criticwires-updated-year-end-cheat-sheet

"Amour," directed by Michael Haneke (Theaters -- starting 12/19)*
"The Central Park Five," directed by Ken Burns, Sarah Burns, and David McMahon (Theaters)*
"Chasing Ice," directed by Jeff Orlowski (Theaters)*
"Life of Pi," directed by Ang Lee (Theaters)*
"Rust and Bone," directed by Jacques Audiard (Theaters)*
"Marina Abramovic: The Artist is Present," directed by Matthew Akers (Buy It)*
"Chronicle," directed by Josh Trank (Buy It)*
"Cloud Atlas," directed by the Wachowskis and Tom Tykwer (Theaters)*
"The Color Wheel," directed by Alex Ross Perry (Rent It)*
"Cosmopolis," directed by David Cronenberg (Rent It, starting 12/18)*
"The Dark Knight Rises," directed by Christopher Nolan (Rent It, starting 12/4)*
"4:44 Last Day on Earth," directed by Abel Ferrara (Buy It)*
"Gayby," directed by Jonathan Lisecki (Rent It, starting 12/4)*
"Killer Joe," directed by William Friedkin (Rent It, starting 12/21)*
"Return," directed by Liza Johnson (Rent It)*
"Ruby Sparks," directed by Jonathan Dayton and Valerie Faris (Rent It)*
"Smashed," directed by James Ponsoldt (Theaters)*
"Starlet," directed by Sean Baker (Theaters)*
"Take This Waltz," directed by Sarah Polley (Rent It)*
"Planet of Snail," directed by Seungjun Yi*

glad to see Croney.

Middle of Nowhere back playing in NYC on Friday

how could anyone want to go see, let alone read, Life of Pi

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"The American Scream," directed by Michael Stephenson (Watch It)
"Attenberg," directed by Athina Rachel Tsangari (Watch It)
"Bernie," directed by Richard Linklater (Watch It)
"Beyond the Black Rainbow," directed by Panos Cosmatos (Watch It)
"Bullhead," directed by Michael R. Roskam (Watch It)
"China Heavyweight," directed by Yung Chang (Watch It)
"Declaration of War," directed by Valerie Donzelli (Watch It)
"The Deep Blue Sea," directed by Terence Davies (Watch It)
"Elena," directed by Andrey Zvyagintsev (Watch It)
"Gerhard Richter Painting," directed by Corinna Belz (Watch It)
"Goodbye, First Love," directed by Mia Hansen-Løve (Watch It)
"The Grey," directed by Joe Carnahan (Watch It)
"Haywire," directed by Steven Soderbergh (Watch It)
"Indie Game: The Movie," directed by Lisanne Pajot and James Swirsky (Watch It)
"The Invisible War," directed by Kirby Dick (Watch It)
"I Wish," directed by Hirokazu Kore-eda (Watch It)
"Jiro Dreams of Sushi," directed by David Gelb (Watch It)
"Monsieur Lazhar," directed by Philippe Falardeau (Watch It)
"Once Upon a Time in Anatolia," directed by Nuri Bilge Ceylan (Watch It)
"Oslo, August 31st," directed by Joachim Trier (Watch It)
"The Pruit-Igoe Myth," directed by Chad Freidrichs (Watch it)
"Sound of Noise," directed by Ola Simonsson and Johannes Stjärne Nilsson (Watch It)
"The Turin Horse," directed by Bela Tarr (Watch It)

which of these should i watch after deep blue sea, turin horse and oslo?

Once Upon a Time in Anatolia, The Grey, and Attenberg. Of those of these that I've seen, that is.

I liked The Grey and Beyond the Black Rainbow.

Fuck The Turin Horse.

My #1 of the year so far.

I'd have been much more impressed with a movie about life as tedium that *wasn't* so fucking tedious. (And didactic.)

But I actually saw it at Telluride in '10 so it doesn't get to be the worst movie of 2011 for me

"Goodbye, First Love" = ah, young amour; so classy, so boring.

Monsieur Lazhar = never boring but underwritten

yeah, better than it needs to be, still not great.

worth spending a twelfth of a day watching?

Anyone's thoughts on The Loneliest Planet?

Anyone seen Rust and Bone yet? So cheesy and sentimental it's ridiculous. Couldn't believe it.

someone I respect used the word "stupid."

Hyde Park on Hudson just made me feel sorry for Bill Murray the entire time.

I mean, I know there's a doilied old biddy audience out there for these stuffy, cursivey movies. But Murray seems to be grimacing his way through it.

Anyone's thoughts on The Loneliest Planet?

A few thoughts here.

But Murray seems to be grimacing his way through it.

You try being a cripple in that wicker chair.

I really dug Loneliest Planet, maybe only slightly less than DNDN. Loktev always gets great spatial depth with her images.

DNDN did get better after the first thirty minutes.

Also am a huge sucker for schematically bifurcated movies.

anybody see Young and Wild?

i love long movies.

i didn't find rust and bone cheesy or sentimental.

in fact thought it quite successfully resisted being either of those things.

Wow. Really? What about the scene where Ali is getting pulverised in the fight, all is lost and everything goes into slo-mo. But then catching sight of brave Stephanie wobbling towards him on her prosthetic legs is suddenly enough to rally him into fighting back and he wins! And the bit where one shag is enough to knock the trauma and depression out of Stephanie and she sticks on Katy Perry and she's back doing her whale training moves/dance, just like that!
And the ending, where we're suddenly in a snowy location, the only time we're away from the film's primary setting, seemingly just to have a shamelessly Big Emotional denouement. The film has the naturalistic look and feel of your typical indie film, and is very understated, but then it lapses into moments of pure melodrama in order to pull on your heartstrings.