Alfred Hitchcock: Classic or Dud?

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jesus tell me that's fake

turds (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 29 November 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link

It's absolutely for real. The more I think about it, the more this seems like the worst movie ever. It's riotously shitty.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 29 November 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link

"He helps her into the car" = "He pretends she's a steak at Ernie's and smears horseradish on her."

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 November 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link

so does this movie have a shot at the coveted My Week With Marilyn slot

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 November 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link

It's absolutely for real. The more I think about it, the more this seems like the worst movie ever. It's riotously shitty.

― Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, November 29, 2012 9:08 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

i have no problem believing this

turds (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 29 November 2012 14:10 (eleven years ago) link

oh my god at that script picture

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 29 November 2012 14:13 (eleven years ago) link

Helen Mirren could probably slip into Best Actress, especially since her character keeps saying "I am Alma Reville." Actor's too crowded for Hopkins to have more than an outside shot.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 29 November 2012 14:13 (eleven years ago) link

it reminds me of the fake michael bay's batman script

http://my.spill.com/profiles/blog/show?id=947994%3ABlogPost%3A355506

turds (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 29 November 2012 14:15 (eleven years ago) link

they don't call the Academy the Masters of Suspense for nothing!

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 November 2012 14:15 (eleven years ago) link

It gives you a PECK on the cheek.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 29 November 2012 14:16 (eleven years ago) link

Did I mention a raven lands on Hitchcock's shoulder at the end of this movie?

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 29 November 2012 14:16 (eleven years ago) link

there's so many lines in the trailer alone that make me cringe. like a reporter going "mr. hitchcock, you're the most famous director in the history of the medium... but you're 60 years old!"

turds (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 29 November 2012 14:17 (eleven years ago) link

Did I tell YOU there's a scene where Hitch sits down in a train and Robert Walker goes "Excuse me -- is this seat taken?"

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 November 2012 14:19 (eleven years ago) link

Did I tell YOU there's a scene where Vera Miles is wearing a black bra? Or was it a white one?

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 29 November 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link

Also, he loves him some imported, canned foie gras.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 29 November 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link

Does this at least approach Mommie Dearest levels of camp, or is it completely worthless?

super perv powder (Phil D.), Thursday, 29 November 2012 14:31 (eleven years ago) link

It's not really campy at all. Just a run-of-the-mill hatchet job that highlights each and every one of the pitfalls of this pitfall-heavy genre.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 29 November 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link

this O'Hehir piece is kind of intriguing, as he finds Hitch's craft a "baleful influence in film history."

http://www.salon.com/2012/11/24/the_strange_case_of_alfred_hitchcock/

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 29 November 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link

tbh there aren't many directors who do Hitch well so if he's to be judged by the baleful qualities of his hack imitators...

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 November 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link

It’s clearly relevant to Hitchcock’s films that he was a neurotic mess (and quite likely a highly unpleasant and unhappy person) who had unresolved mommy issues and lusted fruitlessly after a parade of icy blondes. But those things don’t explain his seductive, paranoid, mistaken-identity dreamscapes any more than Scott Fitzgerald’s alcoholism and bigotry can explain “The Great Gatsby,” or Richard Wagner’s anti-Semitism can explain “The Ring of the Nibelungen.” Indeed, as Richard Brody of the New Yorker recently suggested in a post about Hedren and “Marnie” (a movie I pretty much can’t stand), the fact that Hitchcock was a defective personality may make his artistic achievement greater rather than lesser.

I like Marnie.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 29 November 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

It and Gertrud form the great 1964 diptych of defective sexuality.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 29 November 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link

I like Marnie too, tho it falls a little short of Gertrud.

(add Dr Strangelove for a triptych)

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 29 November 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

True and true.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 29 November 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

is Bruce Dern the last working actor who's been in 2 Hitchcock films? I guess Norman Lloyd is retired.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 29 November 2012 15:52 (eleven years ago) link

Hedren has 5 credits in the last 2 years and 3 in various stages of production.

super perv powder (Phil D.), Thursday, 29 November 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link

ok, i wondered about that

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 29 November 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link

btw, UK MWKTM on Criterion in January. Need to resee.

http://www.criterion.com/films/27999-the-man-who-knew-too-much

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 29 November 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link

Me too. I need to rewatch a lot of the British ones. Don't have particularly fond memories of many aside from The Lady Vanishes.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 29 November 2012 16:02 (eleven years ago) link

The one w/ Sylvia Sidney & husband running the movie theater is pretty amazing. (I keep forgetting it's based on a Conrad novel)

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 29 November 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

Sabotage, and my favorite of the Britcocks.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 November 2012 16:07 (eleven years ago) link

the PBS outlet in NY used to show the Britcocks ALL the time when I was a teen.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 29 November 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

Kinda starting to think that non-Lifetime biopics are the absolutely worst film genre.

Come Into My Layer (Old Lunch), Thursday, 29 November 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link

Oh right, I liked that one too. Best bomb theory in practice.

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 29 November 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link

funny you mentioned Sabotage as I remembered it yesterday when watching Day Night Day Night.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 November 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

xxpost they very much are. Want to lobby a mod to change this thread title:

biopics - which ones are good?

to a "defend the indefensible"

Bobby Ken Doll (Eric H.), Thursday, 29 November 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Hoberman enthuses about Lorre in the Brit Man Who... (dead rong about the '50s version tho).

http://blogs.artinfo.com/moviejournal/2013/01/02/hitchcocks-peter-lorre-is-too-much/

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 January 2013 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, the 50s version is lazily criticised by people who won't recognise it's a different film to the original. Lorre is amazing of course, cos he's Lorre. really wish he'd made a dozen B&Ws with Hitch.

soma dude (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 January 2013 17:26 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

watched Saboteur all the way thru for maybe the first time this week - i seem to know the last 15 minutes by heart but have always managed to miss bits from earlier. really enjoyed it, obv - some lovely set pieces and the only real negative for me is the clunkiness of some of the more obvious propaganda speeches. i figure he actually reworked it as much into the second Man Who Knew Too Much as he did NxNW, the whole society ball section especially. nice to have an unfamiliar guy (to me) as the wrong suspect for a change.

anyway, i was just in the mood. it's probly a shade long but it's an under-rated blast imo.

drier than a Charles Grodin quip (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 February 2013 23:48 (eleven years ago) link

Robin Wood gets mentioned a number of times on this thread; found a cheap copy of his Hitchcock book with this cover on the way home tonight (only s second edition, unfortunately).

http://daily.greencine.com/archives/wood-hitchcock.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 February 2013 23:33 (eleven years ago) link

now you can get Revisited and compare

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 21 February 2013 05:05 (eleven years ago) link

Isn't there something after Revisited as well, Re-Make/Re-Model?

Stranded In the Jungle Groove (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 21 February 2013 11:25 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

US tour of BFI-restored early flms:

http://variety.com/2013/film/news/rare-early-hitchcock-pics-to-tour-u-s-1200326013/

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 16:18 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Maybe this photo is famous, but I'd never seen it until this morning:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1nr5p7YBC1qm1ld5o1_500.jpg

clemenza, Sunday, 7 April 2013 13:07 (eleven years ago) link

(From a TV intro, I'm guessing.)

clemenza, Sunday, 7 April 2013 13:08 (eleven years ago) link

yeah yeah yeah

Guillermo del Toro's brief analysis on the Man Who Knew Too Much Criterion is rich. I wonder if his book on AJH will ever be translated? or has it?

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 7 April 2013 13:11 (eleven years ago) link

watched north by northwest last night. that is all, tbh, i don't need morbs shouting at me this time on a sunday

mister borges (darraghmac), Sunday, 7 April 2013 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 7 April 2013 16:34 (eleven years ago) link

fine, u & Eric have had yr masterpiece vaccines

Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 7 April 2013 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

I find the best times for a lecture from Morbius are Wednesday mornings or Thursday afternoons. I have no explanation.

clemenza, Sunday, 7 April 2013 17:29 (eleven years ago) link


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