This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2012

Aw.

Such is the weirdness of awards season that I'm sort of "meh" about a movie I genuinely like a whole lot sweeping the NYFCC.

happy with three of the four acting winners (DDL's not one of them).

Bigelow wins director.

for Point Break?!?

LOL, NYFCC's embargo against awarding Spielberg for his direction continues.

Guess Ed was right. Lesson learned.

Best Picture: Zero Dark Thirty

For reference:

Best Picture
Zero Dark Thirty

Best Director
Kathryn Bigelow, ZERO DARK THIRTY

Best Screenplay
Tony Kushner, LINCOLN

Best Actress
Rachel Weisz, THE DEEP BLUE SEA

Best Actor
Daniel Day-Lewis, LINCOLN

Best Supporting Actress
Sally Field, LINCOLN

Best Supporting Actor
Matthew McConaughey, BERNIE, MAGIC MIKE

Best Cinematographer
Greig Fraser, ZERO DARK THIRTY

Best Animated Film
Frankenweenie

Best Non-Fiction Film (Documentary)
The Central Park Five

Best Foreign Film
Amour

Best First Film
David France, HOW TO SURVIVE A PLAGUE

This is what happens when you nominate everything. Laura Linney in Hyde Park on Hudson.

http://www.indiewire.com/article/complete-list-of-2012-satellite-award-nominations

Guess Ed was right.

That's not a sweep. Weisz over Chastain, uh, fuckyeah.

Most overall zzzzzz history of all four acting categories?

Snored through McC, huh, and Weisz too lifelike? Didn't look too hard but 2006 was Forest Whitaker, Helen Mirren, Jackie Earle Haley, Jennifer Hudson. FW was kinda embarrassing, skipped the other 3.

No, I meant best lead actor category has had the most boringest history overall with the NYFCC. Or at least the one with the least adventurous choices.

Have any of the ILX film hivemind seen The Sessions? It has a lot of positive reviews but it seems like such dire oscarbait.

M@rk H@rris is on a crusade against the word Oscarbait this year. But, yes, The Sessions is Oscarbait. Not even so much "mature" about its sexual content as it is just plain open/explicit. (Also, seems like the dude had more women at his side than Guido Anselmi.)

I dunno Eric, NYFCC's Best Actors probably come out ahead of AAs if you go thru the last 30 years (Thewlis, Newman for NF, Irons for DR, Steve Martin).

Both can still be true.

The New York Critics finished the '90s with an excellent run: Fonda in Ulee's Gold, Nolte in Affliction, and Farnsworth in The Straight Story. (Don't remember Fonda as well as the other two.)

sure.

I think I will nominate jafar Panahi for best actor, tho he doesn't show up here:

http://blogs.indiewire.com/criticwire/the-criticwire-survey-the-best-performances-of-the-year#

AND cosign:

Scott Nye, Rail of Tomorrow:

"While there have probably been richer, deeper performances, I'm going to use this space to give a shout-out to Yoo Jun-sang in Hong Sang-soo's 'In Another Country.' Yoo takes a role that's of little consequence in an almost pointedly inconsequential film and fills every moment onscreen with a manner of life and vitality I haven't seen in any other performance this year. Just seeing him walk or run is vastly entertaining, nevermind the exuberant will to please everyone with whom he interacts. It's rare to find a performer, especially these days, who can entertain just by appearing onscreen, but Yoo achieves that marvelously."

Has anyone ever won an award for two separate roles like McConaughey? I guess either must have received an equal number of votes, but why bother?

Actors are often nominated for multiple roles.

Yes, that's clear, but has anyone ever one for both?

er, won

yes

throwing Bernie in there is BS, the role and the perf were too much, like everything except the townspeople.

Wow. Really? What about the scene where Ali is getting pulverised in the fight, all is lost and everything goes into slo-mo. But then catching sight of brave Stephanie wobbling towards him on her prosthetic legs is suddenly enough to rally him into fighting back and he wins! And the bit where one shag is enough to knock the trauma and depression out of Stephanie and she sticks on Katy Perry and she's back doing her whale training moves/dance, just like that!
And the ending, where we're suddenly in a snowy location, the only time we're away from the film's primary setting, seemingly just to have a shamelessly Big Emotional denouement. The film has the naturalistic look and feel of your typical indie film, and is very understated, but then it lapses into moments of pure melodrama in order to pull on your heartstrings.

― DavidM, Friday, November 30, 2012 9:33 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark

really! (and sorry for the delay replying) while i do recognise your descriptions of the scenes you had a problem with they just didn't play out that way, for me. melodrama? yes but life can play that way. particularly the scene after she's had sex again and dances in her chair along to "fireworks" i found that moving and real, especially following on from the amputation and depression/slow recovery (and i can vividly imagine of the scenery chewing performances and american or english actress would have used here, cotillard was incredibly subtle). i've been down often enough to know that something can flip you into a kind of ecstatic state at your lowest point. it's not logical but it is real and that scene seemed very real and believable to me. and honestly not sentimental.

Bernie was a way to atone for the apostasy of voting for a pleasure as vulgar as Magic Mike.

although i think the last part of the film has structural problems and lacks the punch it could have because cotillard is absent. the last part suffers from a lack of melodrama imo.

xpost to myself.

Actors are often nominated for multiple roles.

If you're talking about the Academy Awards, you can get separate nominations--e.g., Greta Garbo twice for Best Actress in 1930. (It's always one lead + one supporting nowadays.) If you mean the New York Critics, it looks like they periodically give someone one award for multiple roles--e.g., Jack Nicholson in '87 for Broadcast News, Ironweed, and The Witches of Eastwick, or Hope Davis in 2003.

Weirdest example: Barry Fitzgerald was nominated for both Best Actor and Best Supporting Actor for Going My Way.

I was referring to critics' awards

I think the Academy changed its rules to avoid a Fitzgerald situation (but not for director, e.g. Soderbergh in 2000).

The NYFCC did it last year w/ Chastain for 3 films, and twice with supporting actor in the '80s.

1988 Dean Stockwell Married to the Mob; Tucker: The Man and His Dream

1986 Daniel Day-LewisMy Beautiful Laundrette; A Room with a View

several best actresses, the last being Hope Davis

Hoberman on the 5-hour marathon:

An early favorite for Best Director, Paul Thomas Anderson was overwhelmed by Kathryn Bigelow on the second ballot, with Ben Affleck (“Argo”) finishing a distant third. (Strikingly, Steven Spielberg, who failed to get a single first ballot votes, was never in contention.) By this time, it was evident that “Zero Dark Thirty” would run the table and, indeed, “The Master” finished third for Best Picture behind “Argo,” although it took three ballots for the obviously exhausted voters to decide the winner.

http://blogs.artinfo.com/moviejournal/2012/12/03/life-in-wartime-nyfcc-garlands-zero-dark-thirty-lincoln/

if every line in zero dark 30 is delivered like it is in the trailer this could be the most ridiculous movie since BOOM.

if bigelow wasn't pissing herself with laughter while she filmed Mark Strong and his big fake American accent idk wtf she was doing. probably creaming herself over what an important artist she is.

accent sounded fine to me...

Sorry, betraying my ignorance about NYFCC awards there. xposts

no, it's mostly competent at worst, insidious political arc aside. Revenge for the MoveOn set. xxxp

he sounds ridiculous.

he sounds fine... Mate.

if every line in zero dark 30 is delivered like it is in the trailer this could be the most ridiculous movie since BOOM.

I can't even tell if this is a compliment.

Then again, I can't imagine Rust & Bone being anything other than bad.

Daniel Day Lewis (“Lincoln”), possibly the most feted actor in NYFCC history, led on every ballot but still required three rounds of voting to best the closely bunched trio of Jack Black (“Bernie”), Joaquin Phoenix (“The Master”), and Denis Lavant (“Holy Motors”).

There, in a nutshell, is the entire history of NYFCC's best actor award.

bloody hell This is Not a Film.

Silver Linings christ

― Gukbe, Tuesday, 27 November 2012 18:51 (1 week ago)

bloody hell This is Not a Film.

― Gukbe, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 06:53 (1 hour ago)

I never know if these are endorsements or dismissals, Gukbe.

if the offensive statement is at the end, it is a dismissal. if it is before, it is an endorsement.

A-ha!

http://www.awardsdaily.com/blog/2012/12/03/15-documentary-features-advance-in-oscar-race/

The year’s best documentaries – Ken Burns, The Central Park Five doc, Queen of Versailles, Samsara, Jiro Dreams of Sushi, and West of Memphis shut out of the Oscar race. That is mind-blowing. The new rules were supposed to stop this kind of assfuckery from happening. I remain astounded. Then again, they always have their weird ways of doing things and can’t be predicted. They seem to always resent it when others try to predict what they will or won’t do. This, I have to say, is a NEW LOW. It’s a terrible thing, too, to have the Central Park Five win the New York Film Critics the same day AMPAS releases its 15 finalists

SS also gets amusingly butthurt when the grand narrative of "awards = quality" doesn't fall into place.

First supercut out of the gate (?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL8uJC1trFA

Amy Taubin's top 10 (Cosmopolis, one of her top 10 of all time in this year's S&S poll, is predictably #1) is here.