A clear statement about mod actions on 77

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Looking like Trayce got out of bed on the wrong side of her FACE this morning.

JJ I should be clear that I don't care one way or the other, just thought it worth mentioning. I don't want to upstage Tuomas so I'll stop.

no i get it, only the first part was an xpost to your question

cool

these rules seem pretty reasonable altho i think an immediate perma ban from 77 is a little excessive

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xpost :(

why not 5. delete posts on 77 about people not on 77

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Gonna start collecting these

FWIW, Trayce, I have only ever asked for myself to be banned exactly *ONCE* - and it was because I was going through some personal problems with another ILX0r whose house I was moving out of at the time, that I wanted to keep off the board - and the ban only lasted until the move was complete.

The person you are thinking of is Louis - and there's about 20 years, 2 balls and a penis difference between us, thanks.

Please don't bring inaccurate incendiary shit into this. It's just not necessary.

max and jordy otm. delete post + temp 77 ban or whatever unless it's some really egregious race- and sexuality-based hateration a la tombot.

i agree with whoever mentioned that it's the SNA era and hard to keep track of where ur posting.

Buffy? DVDs?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vgAi7DYHA94

Can we get a list of which ILX posters are rapists then, statutory or otherwise? I should probably suggest ban any rapist posters.

by american standards that guy who was boning the 18-year old chick who was actually 17-years-old was breaking the law i think.

Fair enough Kate, I perhaps should have just used the action as an example without naming names, fwiw I take this whole thing about as seriously as a fruit salad *shrug*.

Abbott: I think Graham threatened to wipe the whole database because we were all ungreatful gits who didnt appreciate his hard work and he wanted to be sent a Buffy box set as an apology, or some such rubbish.

Considering going on a Suggest Ban spree unless somebody gets me a video of Oh No It's Selwyn Froggitt.

Bahahaha okay that is awesome Trayce!

See this what I'm sayin' - quality of beefs ain't what it used to be.

just because i dont want to leave this even momentarily vague, max/SGSMB - your suggestions have been duly noted, but unless you hear otherwise, people should be aware that the permaban thing is still the way we are dealing with this. re: the just delete it aspect, i still think that people can police themselves, and it isnt like any mods want to spend tons of time constantly checking for violations on 77 - again i will repeat that there are people that are unhappy that 77 continues to exist. they are making concessions, 77 posters can do the same. if we just say that we will delete meta stuff if we happen to find it, that doesn't do much to allay the concerns of people that are uncomfortable with a secret board having lots of nasty meta stuff on it. in a perfect world, no one will get banned, and people will be reassured that 77 is not a big meta fest. constantly coming back here to find ways to minimize the repercussions of 77 meta posting really doesn't do much to help your case, TBH.

out of curiosity was this a decision arrived at by all the current mods, cf tom, pash, keith(?) (i don't know who else is modding these days).

mod discussion forum isn't just for meta bitching you know

well, the whole idea of keeping meta off 77 is old school and i think predates me being a board mod, so in that sense yeah. there isnt any mod hivemind, and i think reactions vary, but im pretty sure there is a universal feeling that we need to get the 77 situation squared away to save all of us from these things popping up over and over. i also think its safe to say that none of the mods have vocalized anything proposing ignoring or soft-pedalling meta stuff on 77, and there have been moments of frustration where most of us have mentioned just locking it and being done with it.

not sure if that helps or not, but thats the best i can tell you. xpost

wouldn't be an ilx mod for quids

Are people aware of the original 77 kerfuffle with the "crut77" login going all over flickr harrasing various ILXors, that perhaps is causing some of the "anti" vibe?

Eh, it doesnt matter any more I guess.

I'm a mod!

this all seems reasonable, doubt it will really change 77 at all anyway

unless hendricks joins 77

man, that'd be uncomfortable

Personally, I think delete+tempban is the way to go.

the users of 77 are a much smaller group than the people that want it closed and the people that dont care about it

i hate to suggest throwin it open to a vote, but there is precedent here. am willing to take your word for it.

77? I feel like a high court judge.

but ive yet to see an argument that A)proposes a different solution that is more agreeable to both sides of the issue.

Okay, so far most of the people who want to keep 77 non-public have said that they don't mind ILXors reading the board, that every ILXor is free to join there, but they don't want people outside ILX reading the stuff that's posted there. So here's my solution:

Make 77 readable to all people who register to ILX, but invisible to everyone else. (I assume this is technically possible, correct me if I'm wrong.)

Wouldn't that solve all the problems? Then people on 77 would be free to post whatever they like without fearing that they might accidentally mention a forbidden subject, and the folks who don't like the idea of secret clubs would be able to post to 77 if they want to.

it's not a secret club, it's a safe haven.

Depends on whose point of view you look at it, right?

Safe from who?

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Thomas Hardy? Fair enough.

Tuomas Hardy

Tuomas's hard-o ... no, I can't finish that.

TMI right there.

i think tuomas's suggestion is very reasonable... does anyone have a good argument against it?

"the folks who don't like the idea of secret clubs would be able to post to 77 if they want to" is a recipe for lots of feebs shitting everything up.

ya, well they can technically do that if they want to now. i don't think this would change much besides shutting up this endless debate and avoiding a draconian instapermaban system and those awkward dimensional-shift-style thread moves to ILE.

i think tuomas's suggestion is very reasonable... does anyone have a good argument against it?

It is technically impossible without rewriting the messageboard code.

You can have a public board (anyone can see, anyone registered can post), a private board (only invited posters can see or post) or an invite-only board (anyone can see, invited posters can post). The flag to make the board googlable is separate and has always been set to "off" for 77.

a private board (only invited posters can see or post)

Couldn't the code be changed so that everyone who registers to ILX automatically gets an invitation? Seems easier than rewriting the whole messageboard code.

You realize that is still rewriting code...?

haha.

ok.

what if the code gets rewritten so that you can make any changes you want without rewriting code?