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*smashes fist on table*

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

actually... i'm kinda glad they removed the pop out window functionality. i always used it by accidentally double clicking the playlist area.

Nhex, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

has anyone figured out how to drag songs from your library onto your manually-managed ipod

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link

no

乒乓, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link

just figured out you have to open the column sidebar to do that

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link

oh man now I'm ready to burn Apple down to the ground. You can no longer open playlists in their own windows. I spend half my waking hours with multiple playlists open, in windows tiled in different monitors, so I can compare playlists and move songs between them. This is brutal and is really really going to piss me off if they don't put that back. Other people are complaining.

― dan selzer, Tuesday, December 4, 2012 8:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah this is huge.

i've been a mac user for all of 3 weeks and it works and it's totally cush and i have no real problem with the new itunes but apple's horizontal monopoly on media management is tighter than i thought. seems like there could be a prosumer library management alternative to itunes out there but it's tumbleweeds as far as i can tell.

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link

oh well *sorts by makeshift album artist scheme*

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link

so this is what the post-jobs era looks like

炒面kampf (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

quite good hardware, negligible product innovation, hilariously bad software

炒面kampf (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

hey... can you guys post more details about what kind of music library features you like? because if it's something that can be coded up in 10 minutes...

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link

Was thinking that too. The problem is syncing w/iPod, which is a must, I'd think.

stet, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

there are a few lightweight iTunes replacement apps I've checked out in the past, no syncing w/ iPod/Phone but maybe preferable for some.

I'm mostly happy with the changes (other than that big one mentioned above), but I also question the design. It's more "colorful" but kinda "eh". I hope this isn't the result of Ive taking over interface design. I want my software to look like a Braun razor and with no drop shadows. Maybe I just want everything to look like Windows 8, though I've read complaints that they went to far and icons and UX are confusing.

I don't know what the ideal clean/modern/intuitive interface looks like to be honest. Maybe something closer to Abelton Live.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link

I think I don't like the subte 3d qualities. The gradient shade/glow in the info window for instance, though maybe I'd miss it when i's gone. Meanwhile those fancy arrows that bring up the fancy new pop-up next to the song name just has the same options, minus 1 or 2, as right clicking on them.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link

I hope this isn't the result of Ive taking over interface design.

too late for ive to have any impact other than removing paper shredders, surely

炒面kampf (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 22:33 (eleven years ago) link

Wouldn't it be great if the reason iTunes was delayed was because Ive took over and found out they had a view of albums sitting on wooden shelves and he demanded it be removed before release?

mh, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link

even worse, it was CDs in jewel cases.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link

Oh my

mh, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 23:07 (eleven years ago) link

you slid out and unfolded the cover, with virtual gingers

炒面kampf (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 6 December 2012 00:54 (eleven years ago) link

virtual FINGERS

sigh

炒面kampf (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 6 December 2012 00:54 (eleven years ago) link

I just downloaded 6 itunes alternatives, installed them, saw that they were terrible and didn't have the feature I needed, and deleted them all.

dan selzer, Thursday, 6 December 2012 01:51 (eleven years ago) link

mpd is the true nerd's music player of choice. But it definitely won't manage your iPhone library.

wongo hulkington's jade palace late night buffet (silby), Thursday, 6 December 2012 02:16 (eleven years ago) link

I noticed the lack of gapless playback. Bummer. Also, I can change an mp3 to be an audiobook but not a podcast. When I change the file type nothing happens.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 6 December 2012 02:22 (eleven years ago) link

maybe YOU're the one that changes

Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Thursday, 6 December 2012 04:04 (eleven years ago) link

the only piece of software i'm jealous that winblows lusers get is foobar2000

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) (diamonddave85), Thursday, 6 December 2012 04:26 (eleven years ago) link

it still hangs when you're trying to sync with files on a drive that isn't connected. it's been doing this for what, 10 years?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 6 December 2012 08:57 (eleven years ago) link

god foobar2000 rules, so does media monkey.

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Thursday, 6 December 2012 09:33 (eleven years ago) link

media monkey for windows xp r.i.p, it's on to the bladerunner future from here.

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Thursday, 6 December 2012 09:34 (eleven years ago) link

I noticed the lack of gapless playback. Bummer.

― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, December 5, 2012 9:22 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Wait this is the new itunes you're talking about or one of the alternative apps?

my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link

new itunes. Gapless playback has disappeared from the options tab. Totally sucks ass.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:55 (eleven years ago) link

SUPPOSEDLY the only thing that checkbox ever did was override whatever setting you had for crossfading between tracks. so if you don't have itunes crossfade normally you should be fine. there's an article about it somewhere.

hot slag (lukas), Thursday, 6 December 2012 17:57 (eleven years ago) link

Hm. Basically all I care about is whether e.g. the transition from the 2nd to the 3rd movement of the Beethoven "waldstein" sonata will still play without a gap, even if I can't tell itunes via that check box that those tracks are gapless.

my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link

Is anyone a Clementine user?

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link

T-Mobile USA just announced they'll finally be selling the iPhone and iPad at some unspecified time in 2013. They've been busy moving their reasonably fast HSPA+ network to frequencies the iPhone can use over the last year, and will start rolling out their LTE network next year as well.

Lee626, Thursday, 6 December 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

I think gapless playback is still there, there's just an option missing in one of the menus

炒面kampf (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 6 December 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

So if I import a mixed album (with tracks) using a different encoder, how does it know to play it back gaplessly?

mh, Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

it doesnt, also by doing so you have voided the warranty on your computer

tiniest homeless (jjjusten), Thursday, 6 December 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link

Stepping back a couple of days:

I think the answer was to go to the little magnifying glass and switch search from "Entire Library" to "All". This appears to make search work like it used to, and is definitely improved my performance on an external drive

This doesn't seem to work since it was already set to both those, "Entire Library" AND "All." So...hmm.

Again, for those wondering: I am trying to determine why iTunes essentially locks up on me when trying to do a search when my actual library file is only 85 MB, but the music itself is located on an external drive.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 8 December 2012 16:56 (eleven years ago) link

click on "entire Library" again. It will deselct it.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 8 December 2012 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

Thank ya. Out and about but will try again when home.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 8 December 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

And that did indeed do the trick! Thank you VERY much for that.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 10 December 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link

you're welcome!

In my experience, if you quit itunes you have to do it again. It wants desperately for you to use its slowass spotlight wannabee searching.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 10 December 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link

Here's a probably stupid question from a tech-challenged ilxor named me.

Can the iPad communicate with a thumb drive/small ext hard drive without a proper computer being involved in the transaction?

Tomb Of Spatula (Jon Lewis), Monday, 10 December 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

(i don't own one, just contemplating it)

Tomb Of Spatula (Jon Lewis), Monday, 10 December 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link

If you're wondering "hey how come my podcasts stopped updating?", the answer is that new iTunes turns off updates for podcasts you haven't listened to for awhile, so you have to manually go into each podcast and see if it's turned off. Not sure how to globally turn that feature off.

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Monday, 10 December 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

the old itunes did the same thing, but it put an exclamation next to the podcast name in the list

炒面kampf (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 10 December 2012 19:39 (eleven years ago) link

Ah, is THAT what that meant. Haha.

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Monday, 10 December 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

haha yeah

Can the iPad communicate with a thumb drive/small ext hard drive without a proper computer being involved in the transaction?

nope

炒面kampf (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 10 December 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link


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