Those Brits sure love their Thatcher

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And Ben didn't get a move away from Ipswich on deadline day

Limoncello Carlin (The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 13:19 (fifteen years ago) link

god, why does it take SO LONG for any guardian page to load?

According to insiders, Thatcher – who won ITV1 reality series I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here! in 2005 – was chatting with The One Show host Adrian Chiles and guest Jo Brand about the Australian Open when she described an unnamed player as a "golliwog".

It is thought she was referring to Jo-Wilfried Tsonga of France, who went out of the competition in the quarter finals.

Show insiders said Chiles was "outraged" by the comment and he and Brand challenged Thatcher about it.

The pair also complained to show executives – as did production staff who later heard about the incident – and it is understood that Thatcher was approached the following day by the show's executive producer.

Mark G, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 13:20 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1134663/BBC-drops-Carol-Thatcher-brands-tennis-player-golliwog-private.html

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Apparently this is political correctness gone mad!

super shareaholic firefox add (onimo), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 13:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Ironically, Thatcher was on the One Show with Jo Brand on Thursday evening. Brand was at the centre of a 'race' row at the weekend when it emerged she had made jokes about 'sending poo' to members of the BNP.

The following day, Simon Darby, the BNP’s deputy leader, made an official complaint to Hammersmith police alleging that Brand’s comment had been an act of incitement to cause racial harassment.

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 13:27 (fifteen years ago) link

I remember having a golliwog as a child that I loved and cherished and for many people of my generation the word golly is a 'term of endearment'.

Writes a 200 year old woman

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 13:29 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm from the home of Robertson's Jam, so I know all about golliwogs

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 13:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Forget the self seeking snitches. These leeks are far more organised. The Stasi are every where.

Some organised leeks, yesterday:

http://www.kumah.org/blog/Leeks.jpg

talk me down off the (ledge), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 13:34 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm loving those ratings they have now. This comment must have led to terrible conflicts:

Terrible I say. Wossie ,Brand and now Thatcher must be banned from our TV paid for by the decent hard working British viewer. Her mother would be ashamed of her

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 13:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Hm, those ratings are not so amusing actually:

As a black person who grew up during the 'wog' era i find the use of the word 'golliwog' to describe a person's appearance wholly offensive. Its fine for those of you who didn't get bullied and taunted in the most officious way for your looks but for me the word brings back all the horrid memories of 60's Britian that I thought was long behind us. Carol Thatcher with her priveleged background should have a wider vocabulary than that to describe the way a persons looks.

scores negative 22

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 13:57 (fifteen years ago) link

officious?

display name fatigue (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 14:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Her mother would be ashamed of her

... if she could still remember who she was?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 14:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Oof.

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 14:06 (fifteen years ago) link

scores negative 22

Dropped to 39 in the last 20 minutes. Somehow that whole rating system is scaring me more than the comments.

, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 14:38 (fifteen years ago) link

I was watching Carol T on The One Show other week and I nearly posted about how nice and tolerant she was when she was meeting people who had dropped out of the 'rat race', bearing in mind her nightmare of a mother. Kind of glad I didn't now.

Shallow Gravy (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:08 (fifteen years ago) link

She probably thought they looked like garden gnomes or something.

The Tracks of My Balls (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Her mother would be ashamed of her

I'm betting Denis would have been bursting with pride

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Tonight's TV Guide entry:


19:00 The One Show
Adrian Chiles and Christine Bleakley present the live topical show about the concerns of the British nation and uncover stories of people in extraordinary circumstances. The series includes regular features by historian Dan Snow and consumer expert Dominic Littlewood, plus reports from personalities including Phil Tufnell, Carol Thatcher and Colin Jackson

Mark G, Tuesday, 3 February 2009 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Here cometh the predictable bandwagon.

Since John Fogerty's first band was called the Golliwogs I fully expect the BBC to ban all Creedence records from their airwaves.

I am also lodging a formal complaint about the BBC playing songs by Rick Astley because his surname sounds a bit like "aspie."

Ben E Gesserit (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 5 February 2009 09:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm lodging a formal complaint against that image since it is a grievous insult to descendents of the victims of the Peterloo Massacre.

Ben E Gesserit (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 5 February 2009 09:55 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm sort of stunned that Sandringham thought that selling golliwogs was a good idea in the first place.

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Thursday, 5 February 2009 09:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Was it Harry's idea?

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Thursday, 5 February 2009 09:59 (fifteen years ago) link

I blame Thatcher... Carol, that is

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 10:14 (fifteen years ago) link

I blame the no-life parasites who whined about them to the meejah in the hope of getting paid enough money for a Good Story to settle last month's Visa bill.

Ben E Gesserit (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 5 February 2009 10:16 (fifteen years ago) link

My heart goes out to the Thatcher family and the Royal household at this difficult time

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 10:17 (fifteen years ago) link

"Unfortunately we regret that for administrative reasons hearts cannot be returned."

Ben E Gesserit (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 5 February 2009 10:18 (fifteen years ago) link

They should have wheeled Carol out to plead for her brother's release when he was under arrest for attempting to engineer a coup in Equatorial Guinea.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 10:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I believe they're currently not on speaking terms.

Ben E Gesserit (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 5 February 2009 10:35 (fifteen years ago) link

He pulled the head of her favourite golliwog.

The Tracks of My Balls (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 February 2009 10:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Now he just decapitates African regimes.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 10:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Did somebody mention decapitation?

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38844000/jpg/_38844949_statue_pa_port.jpg

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 10:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Well he would do if he could remember where they were.

Ben E Gesserit (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 5 February 2009 10:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Lord Tebbit, who served in Baroness Thatcher’s Cabinet, compared the sacking of Ms Thatcher to the BBC's recent reinstatement of Jonathan Ross. “It does seem very odd that Jonathan Ross can be back broadcasting having made obscene, insulting remarks on the air, and Carol Thatcher, who said something which is allegedly highly offensive but which I rather doubt was meant to be so, in private, should be banned in this way,” said Lord Tebbit.

These remarks were not in private, they were a typical racists attempt to get others to agree with their racism and it's about time we stopped trying to make excuses for it. There is nothing "allegedly" offensive about calling someone a "golliwog".

The Unbelievably Insensitive Baroness Vadera (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 5 February 2009 12:04 (fifteen years ago) link

she shouldn't have said it, and it's wrong, and she's a terrible man, but she didn't call someone a golliwog, she foolishly said the guy looked like one.

special guest stars mark bronson, Thursday, 5 February 2009 12:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Bored with this

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 12:07 (fifteen years ago) link

How odd, Ned - every article about this non-event states that the remark was made in a "private conversation."

But of course it's more fuel for the Sun and the Mail and everyone else with a vested interest in getting rid of the BBC. The problem is not so much that they move the goalposts but that the BBC are so cravenly obliging to aid the move.

Bernard Braden Misreads Stephen Leacock (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 5 February 2009 12:08 (fifteen years ago) link

It was said in her workplace. If I said someone looked like a golliwog in my workplace I'd be in deep shit, and rightly so.

I don't get this bollocks about how somehow private racism is ok - the more fuckers are caught, grassed up, outed, whatever, the better.

super shareaholic firefox add (onimo), Thursday, 5 February 2009 12:15 (fifteen years ago) link

"Ms Hunt told Radio 4's Today programme: "What Carol decides to say in the privacy of her own home or in a private conversation with friends is one thing.

"What she says in a green room space, when there are 12 people, in her capacity as a roving reporter for The One Show is a rather different thing." "

From the BBC, so take it as you will.

dowd, Thursday, 5 February 2009 12:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Really looking forward to having this identical argument every three weeks for the next year.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 12:16 (fifteen years ago) link

f I said someone looked like a golliwog in my workplace I'd be in deep shit

Actually that's probably not true, going by the office reaction to this story. Fairer to say my employer's diversity policies *should* mean I'd be in deep shit.

super shareaholic firefox add (onimo), Thursday, 5 February 2009 12:17 (fifteen years ago) link

You can't just say whatever you want in the workplace. End of.

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 5 February 2009 12:18 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm considering running a sweepstakes as to how long this takes before it moves on from casual racism to Alan Shearer doing a "no homo" rant on MOTD.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 12:19 (fifteen years ago) link

End of. Get rid.

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 12:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Perhaps all workplaces should issue a list of acceptable words and expressions for employees to say and summarily sack, blacklist from other employment and prevent from claiming welfare benefit anyone who says anything that offends anybody else. Then we'd all be in the gutter.

Bernard Braden Misreads Stephen Leacock (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 5 February 2009 12:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Only if it applies to member of the Thatcher family

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 12:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Might as well bring back the Stasi and be done with it.

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 12:22 (fifteen years ago) link

You really think people need to be explicitly told that words like "golliwog" are unacceptable in the workplace?

xxxpost to marcello trollin

super shareaholic firefox add (onimo), Thursday, 5 February 2009 12:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Is it OK to say someone looks like Talvin Singh in the privacy of an internet message board?

Limoncello Carlin (The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics), Thursday, 5 February 2009 12:25 (fifteen years ago) link


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