Great news and yeah, *gorgeous* posters. Almost more excited about a new one from Isao Takahata than Miyazaki tbh, it's been so long since he directed anything and Only Yesterday is up there with anything else that Ghibli has made.
The premise of The Wind is Rising sounds fascinating though, hopefully an excuse for plenty of aerial sequences too. Man, I'm totally psyched for these :)
― that mustardless plate (Bill A), Thursday, 13 December 2012 13:06 (eleven years ago) link
Sounds like the Wind is Rising could potentially be the first Miyazaki with no fantasy elements, interesting.
Watched Ponyo for the first time the other day, some absolutely stunning sequences, particularly the flooded town. Though the plot felt like it was invented by an eight year-old on the fly (maybe that's the point?).
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 13 December 2012 13:39 (eleven years ago) link
Oh and the use of colour was phenomenal, maybe his best yet in that respect.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 13 December 2012 13:40 (eleven years ago) link
For real, there's some spectacular stuff in Ponyo] - the sequence where they they're racing the storm back to the clifftop home always sticks with me: the roiling sea, and the tiny figure of Ponyo pelting along beside the car on the cresting fish-like waves. And then they get back and have a ham/eggs/noodles meal - from a hurricane to domestic bliss in 10 minutes. And yr right, glorious work with colour throughout. Def. gonna have to watch it again soon.
― that mustardless plate (Bill A), Thursday, 13 December 2012 14:17 (eleven years ago) link
my niece and nephew are your exemplary cultural-ADD children of today, nothing holds the attention, everything's accompanied by simultaneous DS-playing or similar, but the other day I put Ponyo on and within fifteen minutes they had dropped what they were doing and were silent and rapt till the end of it. Considering that they watch even their favourite films in a really passive way it was amazing to see.
― Merdeyeux, Saturday, 29 December 2012 03:50 (eleven years ago) link
Lovely!
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Saturday, 29 December 2012 04:03 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7D-1RG-VRk
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 04:34 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BPTNdmdJSc
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 16 June 2013 18:37 (eleven years ago) link
i love that video.
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 16 June 2013 18:40 (eleven years ago) link
was it on the ponyo dvd?
Spirited Away
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 16 June 2013 20:08 (eleven years ago) link
Since this thread's revived, I may as well use it to note how much that last episode of Game of Thrones (w/ Danaerys) stole from the end of Nausicaa.
― Guy on the internet (B'wana Beast), Sunday, 16 June 2013 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
trailer for new filmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOsHgNaMTKw
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Monday, 24 June 2013 18:11 (eleven years ago) link
Also, want to say from memory that Miyazaki (et all) have trouble with endings, a la Hitchcock and Spielberg.
so so so so wrong
i mean, it's not even true of hitchcock imo!
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 24 June 2013 18:15 (eleven years ago) link
I'd say plotting simply isn't Miyazaki's strongest point, he's better at developing general themes and portraying individual moments. For example, the plots of Princess Mononoke, Moving Castle and Ponyo are all kind of a mess; with Ponyo it doesn't matter so much, since it's not a plot-centric movie, but with the former two it certainly hindered my enjoyment of the movie. His plotting deficiencies are even more evident if you read the Nausicaä manga, which arguably is Miyazaki at his purest, since he did it all by himself... The major themes of the comic and some individual bits certainly linger in mind, but I challenge anyone who's read it to try to summarize the plot in a coherent way.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 11:20 (eleven years ago) link
His episodic plot structuring is a different style from what you're (we're) used to, the Shakespearean conflict-resolution style of storytelling. Seemingly unrelated plot events with abrupt changes of tone are the norm in Japanese plotting from The Tale of Genji through to Mishima and Kurozawa and Haruki Murakami. At least, that was my impression
― VIP treatment and a chance to hang with Franco (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 25 June 2013 12:15 (eleven years ago) link
I dunno, I've read plenty of manga and seen plenty of anime, and though it might be more prevalent than in the West, I wouldn't say this is the norm for either.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 12:54 (eleven years ago) link
Also, the not-so-coherent/episodic structure is fine with me, if it fits the tone of the movie, like it does in Totoro or Pom Poko (not a Miyazaki movie, I know, but it's by Studio Ghibli). But when a movie is more plot-driven, and the plot gets incoherent, like it does in Moving Castle, that is a flaw to me.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 13:03 (eleven years ago) link
I think Nausicaa (manga)'s plot is basically clear, it's just that it's a really long war epic with a large cast and there is a tendency towards episodic detours in the form. I mean, she's named after a bit character in a superfluous, plot-derailing segment of the Odyssey iirc... I'll concede that it maybe suffers a bit from write-as-you-go over many years, and a couple of big later plot developments aren't REALLY set up in the first half, but it's not Howl-level by any means.
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 25 June 2013 14:00 (eleven years ago) link
Japanese sites reporting that Hayao Miyazaki has announced his retirement from making films http://mainichi.jp/mantan/news/20130901dyo00m200036000c.html
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 1 September 2013 13:25 (eleven years ago) link
Awww.
Howl's Moving Castle on Film4 again yesterday. If it weren't for No-Face in Spirited Away it might actually be my favourite.
― emil.y, Sunday, 1 September 2013 13:31 (eleven years ago) link
he also recently said that Hideaki Anno (Nausicaa key animator & writer/director of Evangelion) can make the Nausicaa sequel that Anno has been badgering him about. hmmmm.
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 1 September 2013 14:03 (eleven years ago) link
Woah, I never knew the Anno-Nausicaa connection!
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 1 September 2013 15:01 (eleven years ago) link
anno's series nadia: the secret of blue water is also based on an original concept by miyazaki (hence its similarity to laputa: castle in the sky). nausicaa is still probably my favorite miyazaki film; as much as i like anno's work i'm not sure if i trust him at this point to do justice to the original.
― 1staethyr, Sunday, 1 September 2013 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
Early reviews of the new one seem a little lukewarm.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Sunday, 1 September 2013 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
IIRC Miyazaki said he was gonna retire after Princess Mononoke too... But then he went and made the most successful movie of his career.
Would the supposed Nausicaä sequel be based on the parts of the manga that came out after the movie? Because as good as the movie is, it still feels like it simplifies the complex, non black-and-white themes of life and ecology found in the manga a bit too much. Not sure if a sequel movie would rectify that, but it'd be cool to see them try.
― Tuomas, Sunday, 1 September 2013 21:53 (eleven years ago) link
i think you're right tuomas, he was supposed to bow out after ponyo
― YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 1 September 2013 23:03 (eleven years ago) link
i had a hard time making complete sense of the nausicaa plot (even more than some of the other complex ghibli plots) but it impressed me the most visually. maybe b/c i first saw it in big theater unlike, sadly, a lot of the early-2000s/late-1990s stuff.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 1 September 2013 23:21 (eleven years ago) link
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:25 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark
i'll believe it when he's dead
― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 1 September 2013 23:44 (eleven years ago) link
yeah hasn't he announced his 'retirement' like three times already?
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 2 September 2013 02:29 (eleven years ago) link
i think so, i def. recall him saying this in early 00s
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Monday, 2 September 2013 02:46 (eleven years ago) link
https://blog.twitter.com/2013/new-tweets-per-second-record-and-how
why would a 26 year old film generate so many tweets?
― koogs, Monday, 2 September 2013 13:46 (eleven years ago) link
its become a cultural phenomenon, every time Laputa has aired on Japanese TV the number of people who've tweeted the "Balse" spell at the same time the characters do at the end of the film has grown.supposed to be a press conference on Thursday about Miyazaki's retirement.
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Monday, 2 September 2013 14:30 (eleven years ago) link
Cute phenomenon, I basically dig that. Rewatched Castle in the Sky recently to get through a bad hangover. Had my eyes closed most of the time so I went with the dub, which is bad, but not Kiki bad. Still basically a charming, harmless movie but the main appeal really is the animation of the collapsing train tracks in the chase at the beginning, and everything to do with the robot and the pastoral idyll of Laputa when they first arrive.
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 2 September 2013 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
The robot on the rampage set piece is so good.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Monday, 2 September 2013 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
Oh god, yeah. The robot's eye-beam laser thing and the way it makes things swell up and explode is sort of the Platonic ideal of such things, like the broom-flying in Kiki. Also love how doomy it all is with the music and so on. Sells the dreadful potential of Laputa in the wrong hands much moreso than an "exciting" soundtrack or lots of jump cuts or whatever.
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 2 September 2013 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
the press conference was earlier on today, Miyazaki quoted as saying “I think people are thinking, 'Oh, he's saying he's going to retire again,' but this time, I am serious.” There's a new Ghibli film scheduled for next summer but no details on what it is or who is directing it.
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 6 September 2013 11:22 (eleven years ago) link
spending his retirement in the best possible way by making a samurai manga
http://24.media.tumblr.com/a6f942f71ddb0276ef40656b33f8543f/tumblr_mwi0xj090K1qbg80vo4_500.jpghttp://25.media.tumblr.com/c6b509762caefdfd96390a5993854c31/tumblr_mwi0xj090K1qbg80vo1_500.jpghttp://25.media.tumblr.com/54e234952a3639bbaa0b4dfcfb117d98/tumblr_mwi0xj090K1qbg80vo2_500.jpg
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 29 November 2013 20:09 (ten years ago) link
he should stick his hands in a lawnmower. that'd be the best thing he could do for the world
― http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD7PvtbkH0I (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 29 November 2013 20:27 (ten years ago) link
fp
― CANONICAL artists, etc., etc. (contenderizer), Friday, 29 November 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link
i was gonna post how i always want to say "princess monkey monkey" and was that maybe wrong, so thanks for recalibrating my scale
― CANONICAL artists, etc., etc. (contenderizer), Friday, 29 November 2013 21:15 (ten years ago) link
Wtf, H4A?!
― Tuomas, Sunday, 1 December 2013 22:29 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWz2AyDD6Zc
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 1 December 2013 22:31 (ten years ago) link
https://vimeo.com/134668506
― let's not get too excited w/ the ouches (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 30 July 2015 14:34 (nine years ago) link
my daughter wanted to watch Princess Mononoke, that turned out to not be such a good idea
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 July 2015 15:33 (nine years ago) link
I can see how that could be a little traumatic. I'm not sure if my littlest one has watched Princess Mononoke yet. We watched Spirited Away not long ago. Not sure if my oldest remembers Mononoke. He wasn't really interested when I tried to show it to him at age 6.
― how's life, Thursday, 30 July 2015 15:36 (nine years ago) link
Yeah Mononoke's not really for kids.
― the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 30 July 2015 15:39 (nine years ago) link
Of course, she's a little harder than me. Last night she accidentally ended up watching footage of some whale hunt, and I turned it off saying "I don't like people who hunt whales." And she was like "why don't you like people who hunt whales?" "I don't know, I just think they're too beautiful." "I don't think they're beautiful."
― how's life, Thursday, 30 July 2015 15:40 (nine years ago) link
she's almost 8 and she wasn't traumatized by it (and I have never seen it/didn't get to watch it with her) so when I came home and asked her how it was she proceeded to relate the entire film to me in painstaking detail - when she got to the part about some guy getting his arms and head blown off I was like hmm maybe this movie was not for you. She has this penchant for asking to watch anime stuff and then when we do there's inevitably freaky demons and gore and just ugh why, I hate this shit
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 July 2015 15:46 (nine years ago) link
Totoro
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 30 July 2015 15:54 (nine years ago) link