for the car i already sold
― Tome Cruise (Matt P), Thursday, 27 December 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link
to get a sweet credit score for my future love
― Tome Cruise (Matt P), Thursday, 27 December 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link
Eh, I wouldn't scoff at anybody's student loans.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 27 December 2012 22:27 (eleven years ago) link
you'd scoff if you knew what i spent that relatively piddling amount on.
― packt like phoebe cates's dad in a chimney (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 27 December 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link
No way.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 27 December 2012 22:37 (eleven years ago) link
I have almost-a-bachelor's degree, and almost-law-school debt. And I've been single for 11 years. Coincidence?
― (*・_・)ノ⌒ ☆ (Je55e), Thursday, 27 December 2012 23:03 (eleven years ago) link
I know someone who broke it off with a guy she loved over massive debt, and later regretted it.
― drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Thursday, 27 December 2012 23:10 (eleven years ago) link
maybe the dumbest NYT op-ed i have ever seen (and that's saying something):
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/31/opinion/lets-give-up-on-the-constitution.html?ref=opinion&_r=1&
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 31 December 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link
but how could a 21st century democracy operate w/o a magic piece of paper written by gods
― iatee, Monday, 31 December 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
That op-ed piece was far from stupid. It's entirely true that when it came to actually governing the USA, the constitution was seen as non-binding by the people who helped write it, not because they didn't respect it as a necessary guide for the conduct of the government, but because circumstances kept forcing them to either supercede it or else ignore the urgent needs of the country.
That the author of the piece concludes that we should ignore it is a questionable conclusion, but only because the odds are we'd get through the present 'crisis' okay if the needs of the moment were given precedence over the weird kludges we all must live under, but we'd live to regret it later as those in power became more and more arbitrary.
I am more in favor of fixing things under at least a fig leaf of constitutional justification. The most obvious one would be changing the internal rules of the Senate, which are entirely outside the constitution and totally under the control of each new session.
― Aimless, Monday, 31 December 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link
arguing that we should ignore the law whenever it suits us is stupid. it has nothing to do with any strawman arguments about our 'perfect' framers, et al.
funny how fast the constitution went from being a precious thing that we must all cherish and uphold when a republican pres was enthusiastically shredding it to a lame outdated unworkable product of white male elitists (who owned slaves, remember) now that a democratic pres is enthusiastically shredding it.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 31 December 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link
I for one have never cherished the constitution
― iatee, Monday, 31 December 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
good for you
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 31 December 2012 19:27 (eleven years ago) link
i use it to wipe up my dog's leavings.
― scott seward, Monday, 31 December 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link
I print out a copy every morning and then burn it
― iatee, Monday, 31 December 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link
it is the worst document in human history
you forgot 'just a goddamned piece of paper.'
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 31 December 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link
i'm sure there'll be a const-conv p soon. we can't even raise taxes on richies.
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Monday, 31 December 2012 19:34 (eleven years ago) link
if only there were other countries that had human rights w/o this one magical piece of paper but alas we are the country w/ human rights, and it's all thanks to our magical piece of paper. we really do have the best magical piece of paper, even though it mostly just constrains our government in stupid ways and ensures a horribly nonrepresentative voting system. why don't other countries model their magical piece of paper on our magical piece of paper? it is a mystery.
― iatee, Monday, 31 December 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
what is it with you and pieces of paper lately
― well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Monday, 31 December 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link
it is time to embrace the digital age
― iatee, Monday, 31 December 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link
i don't always shoot paper, but when i do it's the constitution
― Online Webinar Event for Dads (harbl), Monday, 31 December 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link
I agree with iatee to an extent. Right-wingers are not entirely wrong when they argue that judges distort the constitution (in order to give us rights that almost anyone today would agree should never be infringed -- the right to have children, to marry someone of another ethnicity, etc.). They have to do so, because the constitution is not so hot.
― drunk 'n' white's elements of style (Hurting 2), Monday, 31 December 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link
the left doesnt have much to gain from romanticizing rules written during a period of v. limited government. constitution should be treated like a vestigial organ not 'the source of our liberties' etc.
― iatee, Monday, 31 December 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link
god is the source of our liberties
― max, Monday, 31 December 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
usa has daddy issues
― Tome Cruise (Matt P), Monday, 31 December 2012 22:52 (eleven years ago) link
the Soviet Constitution also "guaranteed" Soviet citizens lots of wonderful civil rights and liberties. just sayin'.
― totaler Quatsch (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 1 January 2013 00:41 (eleven years ago) link
yeah what kind of fool would 'romanticize rules' like freedom of speech, assembly, et al.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 1 January 2013 02:23 (eleven years ago) link
http://yatf.org/images/EagleCrying.GIF
― iatee, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 02:51 (eleven years ago) link
http://youtu.be/saCtEfDetCw
― Euler, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 17:23 (eleven years ago) link
The sons of a noted former NYT writer profiled in the NYT. Yes of course.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/06/fashion/nathaniel-and-simon-the-brothers-rich.html
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 5 January 2013 17:21 (eleven years ago) link
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-txO_g8rU5X0/T87AtwV6FTI/AAAAAAAAAlk/OppdqukN96M/s640/Gladiator.gif
― this will surprise many (Nicole), Saturday, 5 January 2013 17:25 (eleven years ago) link
Joaquin should just go around doing that in real life.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 5 January 2013 17:31 (eleven years ago) link
Aspiring writers from Peoria might roll their eyes, of course.
Oh, maybe more than just that group are rolling their eyes.
― tokyo rosemary, Saturday, 5 January 2013 18:03 (eleven years ago) link
That may explain why “dates” among 20-somethings resemble college hookups, only without the dorms. Lindsay, a 25-year-old online marketing manager in Manhattan, recalled a recent non-date that had all the elegance of a keg stand (her last name is not used here to avoid professional embarrassment).After an evening when she exchanged flirtatious glances with a bouncer at a Williamsburg nightclub, the bouncer invited her and her friends back to his apartment for whiskey and boxed macaroni and cheese. When she agreed, he gamely hoisted her over his shoulders, and, she recalled, “carried me home, my girlfriends and his bros in tow, where we danced around a tiny apartment to some MGMT and Ratatat remixes.”She spent the night at the apartment, which kicked off a cycle of weekly hookups, invariably preceded by a Thursday night text message from him saying, ‘hey babe, what are you up to this weekend?” (It petered out after four months.)
After an evening when she exchanged flirtatious glances with a bouncer at a Williamsburg nightclub, the bouncer invited her and her friends back to his apartment for whiskey and boxed macaroni and cheese. When she agreed, he gamely hoisted her over his shoulders, and, she recalled, “carried me home, my girlfriends and his bros in tow, where we danced around a tiny apartment to some MGMT and Ratatat remixes.”
She spent the night at the apartment, which kicked off a cycle of weekly hookups, invariably preceded by a Thursday night text message from him saying, ‘hey babe, what are you up to this weekend?” (It petered out after four months.)
the end of courtship?
― Z S, Monday, 14 January 2013 00:17 (eleven years ago) link
whiskey and boxed macaroni and cheese
― 乒乓, Monday, 14 January 2013 00:31 (eleven years ago) link
People who know how to live . . .
― nickn, Monday, 14 January 2013 00:55 (eleven years ago) link
I'll bet if you poured whiskey on some mac and cheese powder you could start a really, really big fire with it
― space phwoar (Hurting 2), Monday, 14 January 2013 01:06 (eleven years ago) link
"said Anna Goldfarb, 34, an author and blogger in Moorestown, N.J. "
― s.clover, Monday, 14 January 2013 01:18 (eleven years ago) link
"A fancy dinner? You’re lucky to get a drink."
“Maybe there’s still a sense of a man taking care of a woman, but our ideology is aligning with the reality of our finances,” Ms. Rosin said. As a man, you might “convince yourself that dating is passé, a relic of a paternalistic era, because you can’t afford to take a woman to a restaurant.”
Not sure any of this is quid ag territory. But it's terrible/great nonetheless.
― s.clover, Monday, 14 January 2013 01:21 (eleven years ago) link
“At 10 p.m., I hadn’t heard from him,” said Ms. Silver, 30, who wore her favorite skinny black jeans.
― buzza, Monday, 14 January 2013 01:22 (eleven years ago) link
xpost yeah i knew this thread wasn't perfect for it but wasn't sure where else to post it.
― Z S, Monday, 14 January 2013 01:23 (eleven years ago) link
I think perhaps a "millennial culture alert" thread is in order?
― s.clover, Monday, 14 January 2013 01:26 (eleven years ago) link
I don't know. The part ZS quoted looks about like my GenX, 20s in the 90s hookup/dating life, just with different bands.
― carl agatha, Monday, 14 January 2013 01:40 (eleven years ago) link
hannah rosin never not trolling men
― space phwoar (Hurting 2), Monday, 14 January 2013 02:00 (eleven years ago) link
didn't really know where to put this so I'm putting it here
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/13/nyregion/new-generation-confronts-unaffordable-luxury-of-food.html
― ;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝ (乒乓), Monday, 14 January 2013 13:51 (eleven years ago) link
“I don’t think about what anything costs,” Emily Gerard, a recent graduate of the University of Pennsylvania and a publishing assistant making the requisite salary, told me recently.
Spoken like someone who doesn't pay her own bills ime.
― grossly incorrect register (in orbit), Monday, 14 January 2013 14:38 (eleven years ago) link
But what solace can it offer to realize that $300 a week put into an S. & P. 500 Index fund over the past five years would have provided an annual rate of return of 10.34 percent and grown to $100,354 today?
hahaha the girl in the article is 23, if only she had started saving $300/week when she was a college freshman and hadn't spent any money on food in the last 5 years she'd have enough for a downpayment on an apartment she couldn't afford.
New Yorkers in their early 20s spend almost all their money on rent and going out, shocking new trend.
― Sadly, 99.99 percent of sheeple will never wake up (I DIED), Monday, 14 January 2013 14:48 (eleven years ago) link
kids be eating!
― s.clover, Monday, 14 January 2013 16:01 (eleven years ago) link