honestly surprised so many people are still into his shtick, it's practically framed photos of puppies wearing ascots afaic
― da croupier, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 00:05 (eleven years ago) link
though i guess people are really hard up for anything that even hints at french new wave
― da croupier, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 00:08 (eleven years ago) link
I suspect fans love the sensation of submitting to an all-encompassing vision -- the guy knows exactly what he wants to say. As a guy who can only endure Rushmore and his cartoon foxes by way of Roald Dahl, I'm totally creeped out.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 00:10 (eleven years ago) link
he reminds me of Woody Allen at his worst: in the same way that Allen thinks he's got a character because he cast Claire Bloom or Sam Waterston in the role, Anderson thinks giving Edward Norton a cigarette to pose with will by nature reward interest.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 00:12 (eleven years ago) link
*becomes interested*
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 00:25 (eleven years ago) link
*furiously interested*
― Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 00:28 (eleven years ago) link
*is rewarded*
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 00:30 (eleven years ago) link
"it's practically framed photos of puppies wearing ascots"i'm kind of indifferent to wes anderson but if he actually made an ascot puppy movie instead of the same movie each time, i might upgrade to fan. i feel the same way about david lynch, too, though.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 01:11 (eleven years ago) link
james cameron also seems to be succumbing to this. sometimes i think artistic freedom is the worst thing you can give to a director. you really have to judge something like moonrise kingdom against something like the star wars prequels, in which case it comes off pretty well, i think.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 01:21 (eleven years ago) link
Not repeating himself is one thing, in the face of my otherwise waning enthusiasm, I'll give the other Anderson credit for--although the solemnity of There Will be Blood and The Master is ominous. The list of directors who repeat themselves is long. For a defense of that, see The American Cinema.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 02:18 (eleven years ago) link
where is the thread where we talk about the horrorfest of anderson mannerisms gone fratboy of Roman Coppola's "A Glimpse Inside the Mind of Charlie Swan III"?
― s.clover, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 02:36 (eleven years ago) link
^what a terrible cluster of posts
Nicely presented:
http://focusguilds2012.com/mrkscript/
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 January 2013 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
I laughed out a loud a few times during this. One scene that stayed w/ me FSM is the bit where Ed Norton does that jump. LOL.
― contrarian, zing thyself (cajunsunday), Thursday, 17 January 2013 17:34 (eleven years ago) link
a terrible cluster of posts nicely presented
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 January 2013 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
dioramas of white aristocracy thing
gonna call total BS on this unless you come correct and explain what the hell that means.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 17 January 2013 19:19 (eleven years ago) link
+ why it is "bad."
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 17 January 2013 19:20 (eleven years ago) link
could it just not be someone's thing
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 17 January 2013 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
seriously, i even said i was impressed with his commitment
― da croupier, Thursday, 17 January 2013 19:27 (eleven years ago) link
most directors would have chickened out by now and tried to prove unpredictability/range but no here's another ornately decorated box with verbose children listening to an edith piaf record in it
― da croupier, Thursday, 17 January 2013 19:31 (eleven years ago) link
well no one but aristos were listening to Francoise Hardy in New England
xp
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 January 2013 19:32 (eleven years ago) link
if only he had T*rantino's unpredictability/range, amirite
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 January 2013 19:33 (eleven years ago) link
i apologize if my glib word choice re: aristocracy ruffled your feathers
― da croupier, Thursday, 17 January 2013 19:34 (eleven years ago) link
though he probably won't make some dramatic stylistic shift just to prove he can, i do think eventually wes is going to drop a relatively grounded memoir on us and reap some oscar hay for it - ten bucks says a girl first touched his dick at a screening of the red balloon
― da croupier, Thursday, 17 January 2013 19:37 (eleven years ago) link
I suspect fans love the sensation of submitting to an all-encompassing vision -- the guy knows exactly what he wants to say.
all Great Artists create a little world, you understand. Wes Anderson has created a little world, therefore--
― Cunga, Thursday, 17 January 2013 19:49 (eleven years ago) link
ten bucks says a little girl first touched his dick at a screening of the red balloon
fixed
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 January 2013 19:53 (eleven years ago) link
in a way this guy reminds me of tim burton inasmuch as once he was through exploring his private array of cultural obsessions and fetishes he had nowhere to go except repeat himself or make (admittedly awesome) animated films.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 17 January 2013 20:26 (eleven years ago) link
I dunno. I see the Burton comparison, but I find there's always an emotional core/complexity to Wes Anderson - the intricacies, ironies and contradictions of family, mostly - and I appreciate the affectations as a sort of stylistic sleight of hand, or at least shorthand. He's never ... cheap the way that Tarantino (or Burton) can be. Like, his level of homage rises above references, I think. I can see why the surplus of style can be maddening, and there's a lot Anderson has done that I have not dug, but coming off my least fave batch of his films, "Fantastic Mr. Fox" and this one reminded me of the guy's gifts.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 January 2013 21:06 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah everything he does, stylized as it may be, still has some kind of emotional core to it.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 17 January 2013 21:23 (eleven years ago) link
Burton is a bad point of comparison, hasn't written any original material in what, 20 years...? Anderson is one of the few writer/directors of original material worth a damn.
― Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 January 2013 21:27 (eleven years ago) link
I dunno – he's recycling himself something awful.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 January 2013 21:30 (eleven years ago) link
that's different
― Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 17 January 2013 21:31 (eleven years ago) link
Anderson doesn't have a filter that he applies to existing corporate properties once a year
Burton is a shitty director but writing your own material can be as inhibiting as using Hollywood rent-a-scripts.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 January 2013 21:35 (eleven years ago) link
Recycling? I dunno. He uses a lot of the same sort of imagery, and of course many of the same actors, but if you distilled each of his movies down to a sentence or two, you couldn't possibly come up with a weirder bunch of stories.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 January 2013 21:37 (eleven years ago) link
for all my issues with modern-day wes anderson there's no comparison bw what he does and tim burton's alice in wonderland type garbage
― zero dark (s1ocki), Thursday, 17 January 2013 21:41 (eleven years ago) link
MK is just as garish and mannered.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 January 2013 21:45 (eleven years ago) link
Garish?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 January 2013 21:45 (eleven years ago) link
I'll give you mannered.
yeah i'm gonna say... no on that one.
― zero dark (s1ocki), Thursday, 17 January 2013 21:50 (eleven years ago) link
No, he's refining himself in splendid fashion, Alfred. His last two films eclipse everything but Rushmore.
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 January 2013 21:50 (eleven years ago) link
I suppose he gets points for creating his own lurid tropes instead of buying them readymade but like croup said upthread I'm done with him unless he gets Clooney to play another wry fox.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 January 2013 21:50 (eleven years ago) link
i think i'll give him garish, just with 70's curtain and cushion fabric as opposed to matte foundation and shitty hairdye
― lemmy's rabbles (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 January 2013 21:50 (eleven years ago) link
Whit Stillman is a better example of a guy refining himself in splendid fashion.
they might be on a continuum of manneredness or garishness, but that doesn't make them the same.
the idea that he's reinventing himself is a bit of a joke though. he's just drilling down.
― zero dark (s1ocki), Thursday, 17 January 2013 21:51 (eleven years ago) link
we are forgetting that wes anderson has wes anderson'd up a roald dahl property
― da croupier, Thursday, 17 January 2013 21:52 (eleven years ago) link
ha.
― zero dark (s1ocki), Thursday, 17 January 2013 21:53 (eleven years ago) link
At the essence below his love of British sixties pop and colorful clothes are...a love of Francoise Hardy and people holding cigarettes in mannerist poses.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 January 2013 21:53 (eleven years ago) link
i agree that burton is way way worse, espec once he turned into the ed wood of CGI.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 17 January 2013 21:54 (eleven years ago) link
i def don't want to make it sound like i wish wes anderson would prove us all wrong by making a planet of the apes movie
― da croupier, Thursday, 17 January 2013 21:54 (eleven years ago) link