Those Brits sure love their Thatcher

why because you care about/WANT to feel national pride?

i'm so glad i never saw the bottle opener thread at the time

You posted on it.

C Sharp Major 100% on the money here.

i'm so glad i never saw the bottle opener thread at the time

You posted on it.

Lex doesn't even know who Lex is!

i meant, i was glad i wasn't on it at the time it was kicking off and getting clusterfucky.

Ah, nice to see that the spirit of Rik Out Of The Young Ones is alive and well...

The correct course of action would have been for her colleagues to smile, shake their heads, say to themselves, "ah well, that's Carol" and get on with their lives. As a freelancer, she was not "sacked."

Racism certainly is a very real issue, and is cheapened and trivialised by the thoughtless flinging about of pseudo-moralistic outrage on the part of people who should know better but of course are paid large sums of money by the meejah to be pseudo-outraged.

There is a pronounced difference between political extremists who actively seek to stir up discord, hatred and conflict and the perhaps thoughtless but ultimately harmless remarks of people whose upbringing and set of values are different from ours. If we sacked everybody from every workplace who made thoughtless comments or remarks there would be 40 million unemployed.

Unfortunately, since humans are human and not perfectly programmed robots, and therefore biased, prejudiced and unthinking in many senses, the best course of action is to come to terms with the fact that human beings are what they are, distinguish actual evil from silly, jokey remarks and get over ourselves.

As for "a world in which people are silenced for speaking their minds," isn't that exactly what the real extremists want?

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tmz.com/media/2009/02/0202_miley_cyrus.jpg

ah well, that's Marcello

*shakes head*

don't think reposting stuff from Jagger's facebook is cool

lol "actual evil"

ie retail staff showing insufficient deference

ie2 people running crappy lapland theme parks

Marcello, if you don't deem referring to someone as a "golliwog" in the workplace a sackable offence, can you give us an example of language that you would find unacceptable? Or is, in your view, all legislation against so-called hate speech in the workplace wrongheaded?

There is a pronounced difference between political extremists who actively seek to stir up discord, hatred and conflict

Weren't you calling out the media for having leaked the BNP membership list not so long ago? Perhaps they're only stirring up discord, hatred and conflict in the privacy of their own homes.

Referring to someone as a golliwog "in the workplace" is different from making a jokey, off-the-cuff reference in a private conversation.

A private conversation, with colleagues, in the workplace.

So, was it a private conv, or a "workplace" environment? (xpost fwiw)

Similarly, membership of a political party, however distasteful you might find it, is a matter of concern only to the member unless they decide to make it public and there are pretty firm rules about the latter in most workplaces.

http://www.p-jones.demon.co.uk/images/flip_lg_wht.gif

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1135359/MELANIE-PHILLIPS-The-age-snitch--public-sector-informers-creating-Stasi-Britain-.html

what's that gossip column in the londonpaper called again? oh yeah, The Green Room. doesn't sound like the kind of place you can ever have a private conversation in.

The correct course of action would have been for her colleagues to smile, shake their heads, say to themselves, "ah well, that's Carol" and get on with their lives.

You can do that if you like, Marcello, I certainly wouldn't do that. Admittedly I wouldn't run to my boss and snitch either.

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GEOFFREY WANSELL: Daft Carol just doesn't give a damn
STEPHEN GLOVER: The BBC is now run by a narrow sect, blind to the good sense and values of those it serves
MAIL COMMENT: The BBC is a floundering giant with no moral sense
RICHARD LITTLEJOHN: Christians haven't got a prayer in 'diversity' Britain...
MELANIE PHILLIPS: British police running away from Muslim demonstrators, a Christian nurse facing the sack for offering to pray for a patient - this is the way a society dies
ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'
ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

wait, you didn't make that up?

bloody hell why is the photo of C Thatcher on that Philips article link so enormous?

http://furniture.dailymail.co.uk/i/blogs/blog_robinpage_masthead.jpg

Okay WAU at this.

Robin Page is the one who got arrested for hate preaching at a Countryside Alliance march, right?

Likes the odd drink, does he?

"That the One Show should be involved in all this nonsense is totally unsurprising. Last year I was invited onto it to talk about grey squirrels – yes I want them severely controlled. Oddly, the pro-squirrel guest was the urban Anika Rice. The famous “Green Room” was full of luvvies being luvvies – telling each other what they had done, where they had been and how absolutely luvvy they all were. I read a book.

Earlier in the day a researcher had asked me what I would do to control grey squirrels – “eat them”, I replied. I have eaten them casseroled, as a burger and as squirrel pate.

“Will you get us a squirrel to eat on the programme?” they asked. In next to no time a gamekeeper friend had three squirrels dressed and jointed, ready for the oven.

Then came the politically correct message; “Oh it has been decided that you can’t eat squirrel on the show, it is wrong to kill animals for entertainment”. So the One Show had caused three squirrels to be killed for no reason at all. The odd thing about this of course is the fact that the BBC is almost Cookery Programmed out with Ready Steady Cook etc – all using meat as part of their “entertainment”. Perhaps BBC executives don’t realise that beef, lamb and pork are just as much “animal” as squirrels.

After the programmes, the main presenter, the rather characterless, bland, Adrian Chiles said:” You won’t write about this will you Robin?” Why not? What a shower – and was it you Adrian who behaved so despicably against Carol Thatcher – were you the INFORMER?

The one good thing about the programme was that Anneka Rice appeared to know nothing about squirrels, and the next day “Save Our Squirrels” the organisation fighting for red squirrels asked me to be their Patron. That of course will teach the BBC absolutely nothing.

So Dave, come on – for goodness sake organise a BBC licence boycott – if enough people did it the Government would have to take action against the Bigots Broadcasting Corporation. If Dastardly Dave is too much of a wimp – how about the Mail leading the way?"

first tv news reports, now not even internet banners are free from a tramp wandering into the foreground

Robin Page is the one who got arrested for hate preaching at a Countryside Alliance march, right?

― Limoncello Carlin (The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:21 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

He won a wrongful arrest case in the end, apparently:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1575619/Robin-Page-compensated-over-%27race%27-arrest.html

Mr Page, 64, a farmer, conservationist, columnist for The Daily Telegraph, and the chairman of the Countryside Restoration Trust, became the focus of police attention after his comments at a country fair in September 2002.

He claims that in order to gain the attention of listeners at the gathering in Frampton-upon-Severn, Glos, he started in a "light-hearted fashion".

His opening remark was: "If you are a black, vegetarian, Muslim, asylum-seeking, one-legged lesbian lorry driver, I want the same rights as you."

Went downhill from there.

What a card

It was a private country fair.

ah well, that's Robin

His opening remark was: "If you are a black, vegetarian, Muslim, asylum-seeking, one-legged lesbian lorry driver, I want the same rights as you."

Who says you haven't anyway? I'm he would answer BRUSSELS EUROCRATS or some other straw man.

What's he got against lorry drivers anyway?

you'd think those gay eurocrats would like their bananas BENT but oh no...

they kill his favourite prostitutes xp

He prefers white van men xpost

When he says "lorry drivers" he means "militant Frenchmen" or more accurately "upstart frogs".

Who lumber through the winding lanes of rural England, flattening hedgehogs I suppose he means

And killing animals is an Englishman's job

And Michael Richards was just misunderstood.

That the One Show should be involved in all this nonsense is totally unsurprising. Last year I was invited onto it to talk about grey squirrels – yes I want them severely controlled. Oddly, the pro-squirrel guest was the urban Anika Rice.

I love the way that these twats think that we should bow down to the opinions of country folk when it comes to squirrels when it was precisely the country-dwelling gentry of the time who introduced the little buggers in the first place. Arsewipes.

Does Jeremy Clarkson keeps this photo in his attic?

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/04_03/RobinPageMOS_468x409.jpg

if so its magic makes him look at least 18 months younger

You see, urban folk don't understand the countryside ways.

Whereas countryside people understand countryside ways AND city ways!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1135359/MELANIE-PHILLIPS-The-age-snitch--public-sector-informers-creating-Stasi-Britain-.html

expand the comments on this page if you wish to see dozens of marcello carlins.

got to comment #4 before punching a hole in the monitor.