Those Brits sure love their Thatcher

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what's that gossip column in the londonpaper called again? oh yeah, The Green Room. doesn't sound like the kind of place you can ever have a private conversation in.

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:15 (fifteen years ago) link

The correct course of action would have been for her colleagues to smile, shake their heads, say to themselves, "ah well, that's Carol" and get on with their lives.

You can do that if you like, Marcello, I certainly wouldn't do that. Admittedly I wouldn't run to my boss and snitch either.

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link

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GEOFFREY WANSELL: Daft Carol just doesn't give a damn
STEPHEN GLOVER: The BBC is now run by a narrow sect, blind to the good sense and values of those it serves
MAIL COMMENT: The BBC is a floundering giant with no moral sense
RICHARD LITTLEJOHN: Christians haven't got a prayer in 'diversity' Britain...
MELANIE PHILLIPS: British police running away from Muslim demonstrators, a Christian nurse facing the sack for offering to pray for a patient - this is the way a society dies
ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

Limoncello Carlin (The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'
ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

ROBIN PAGE'S BLOG: The One Show made me kill three squirrels and Adrian Chiles said 'don't tell anyone'

Limoncello Carlin (The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link

wait, you didn't make that up?

special guest stars mark bronson, Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:18 (fifteen years ago) link

bloody hell why is the photo of C Thatcher on that Philips article link so enormous?

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Robin Page is the one who got arrested for hate preaching at a Countryside Alliance march, right?

Limoncello Carlin (The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Likes the odd drink, does he?

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:21 (fifteen years ago) link

"That the One Show should be involved in all this nonsense is totally unsurprising. Last year I was invited onto it to talk about grey squirrels – yes I want them severely controlled. Oddly, the pro-squirrel guest was the urban Anika Rice. The famous “Green Room” was full of luvvies being luvvies – telling each other what they had done, where they had been and how absolutely luvvy they all were. I read a book.

Earlier in the day a researcher had asked me what I would do to control grey squirrels – “eat them”, I replied. I have eaten them casseroled, as a burger and as squirrel pate.

“Will you get us a squirrel to eat on the programme?” they asked. In next to no time a gamekeeper friend had three squirrels dressed and jointed, ready for the oven.

Then came the politically correct message; “Oh it has been decided that you can’t eat squirrel on the show, it is wrong to kill animals for entertainment”. So the One Show had caused three squirrels to be killed for no reason at all. The odd thing about this of course is the fact that the BBC is almost Cookery Programmed out with Ready Steady Cook etc – all using meat as part of their “entertainment”. Perhaps BBC executives don’t realise that beef, lamb and pork are just as much “animal” as squirrels.

After the programmes, the main presenter, the rather characterless, bland, Adrian Chiles said:” You won’t write about this will you Robin?” Why not? What a shower – and was it you Adrian who behaved so despicably against Carol Thatcher – were you the INFORMER?

The one good thing about the programme was that Anneka Rice appeared to know nothing about squirrels, and the next day “Save Our Squirrels” the organisation fighting for red squirrels asked me to be their Patron. That of course will teach the BBC absolutely nothing.

So Dave, come on – for goodness sake organise a BBC licence boycott – if enough people did it the Government would have to take action against the Bigots Broadcasting Corporation. If Dastardly Dave is too much of a wimp – how about the Mail leading the way?"

Holy Suffering Gobi Desert Clit Nun (Matt DC), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link

first tv news reports, now not even internet banners are free from a tramp wandering into the foreground

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Robin Page is the one who got arrested for hate preaching at a Countryside Alliance march, right?

― Limoncello Carlin (The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:21 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

He won a wrongful arrest case in the end, apparently:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1575619/Robin-Page-compensated-over-%27race%27-arrest.html

Mr Page, 64, a farmer, conservationist, columnist for The Daily Telegraph, and the chairman of the Countryside Restoration Trust, became the focus of police attention after his comments at a country fair in September 2002.

He claims that in order to gain the attention of listeners at the gathering in Frampton-upon-Severn, Glos, he started in a "light-hearted fashion".

His opening remark was: "If you are a black, vegetarian, Muslim, asylum-seeking, one-legged lesbian lorry driver, I want the same rights as you."

joe, Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:24 (fifteen years ago) link

Went downhill from there.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:25 (fifteen years ago) link

What a card

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:27 (fifteen years ago) link

It was a private country fair.

super shareaholic firefox add (onimo), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:29 (fifteen years ago) link

ah well, that's Robin

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:30 (fifteen years ago) link

His opening remark was: "If you are a black, vegetarian, Muslim, asylum-seeking, one-legged lesbian lorry driver, I want the same rights as you."

Who says you haven't anyway? I'm he would answer BRUSSELS EUROCRATS or some other straw man.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:32 (fifteen years ago) link

What's he got against lorry drivers anyway?

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:33 (fifteen years ago) link

you'd think those gay eurocrats would like their bananas BENT but oh no...

super shareaholic firefox add (onimo), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link

they kill his favourite prostitutes xp

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link

He prefers white van men xpost

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link

When he says "lorry drivers" he means "militant Frenchmen" or more accurately "upstart frogs".

super shareaholic firefox add (onimo), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Who lumber through the winding lanes of rural England, flattening hedgehogs I suppose he means

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:37 (fifteen years ago) link

And killing animals is an Englishman's job

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:39 (fifteen years ago) link

And Michael Richards was just misunderstood.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:43 (fifteen years ago) link

That the One Show should be involved in all this nonsense is totally unsurprising. Last year I was invited onto it to talk about grey squirrels – yes I want them severely controlled. Oddly, the pro-squirrel guest was the urban Anika Rice.

I love the way that these twats think that we should bow down to the opinions of country folk when it comes to squirrels when it was precisely the country-dwelling gentry of the time who introduced the little buggers in the first place. Arsewipes.

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Does Jeremy Clarkson keeps this photo in his attic?

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/04_03/RobinPageMOS_468x409.jpg

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link

if so its magic makes him look at least 18 months younger

admin log special guest star (DG), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link

You see, urban folk don't understand the countryside ways.

Whereas countryside people understand countryside ways AND city ways!

Mark G, Thursday, 5 February 2009 16:23 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1135359/MELANIE-PHILLIPS-The-age-snitch--public-sector-informers-creating-Stasi-Britain-.html

expand the comments on this page if you wish to see dozens of marcello carlins.

Henry Frog (Frogman Henry), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:15 (fifteen years ago) link

got to comment #4 before punching a hole in the monitor.

tomofthenest, Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link

However wrote this expressed my views with far more clarity and forthrightness than I could ever do - and to a wider audience. Well done, and I endorse every word.

- Jean, SW, England

James Mitchell, Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:51 (fifteen years ago) link

This is the kind of utter looniness that springs up in the wake of the destruction of a masculinised society and its replacement by a feminised society. It was inevitable.

I rest my case.

- Eric Legge, Ongar,

But you haven't made your case yet.

The Unbelievably Insensitive Baroness Vadera (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Don't Look Back In Ongar

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Clearly with any HYS-type set-up you're going to get the nutbags and idiots.

But I fail to see how a careless but lighthearted remark made after the imbibement of a few drinks in the company of friends equates with Enoch Powell in '68.

Furthermore, if everyone's so obsessed with this happening In The Workplace, what the hell are the BBC doing allowing alcohol to be consumed In The Workplace?

As with Ross and Brand, nobody would have known or given a toss about this if the meejah hadn't picked up on it and decided to make it an issue.

Who cares if we end up not talking to anyone else and no one talks to us for fear of getting the sack or being sued? It's a Good Story!

Bernard Braden Misreads Stephen Leacock (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 6 February 2009 09:22 (fifteen years ago) link

But I fail to see how a careless but lighthearted remark made after the imbibement of a few drinks in the company of friends equates with Enoch Powell in '68.

Er, the answer is, it doesn't, and nobody except you has claimed it does. Enoch Powell was a member of the Shadow Cabinet, and was sacked. Carol Thatcher did little reports on some shitty TV show, and she hasn't been sacked (because as you've pointed out, she's a freelancer). There's no equates in there.

JimD, Friday, 6 February 2009 09:53 (fifteen years ago) link

dropped = sacked.

Daily Mirror has an interview with the mother of "Thatcher's Victim"

(Didn't look in though, so it might have been the mothers of all those miners or something...)

Mark G, Friday, 6 February 2009 10:22 (fifteen years ago) link

tbh i thought the hysteria over ross/brand was sort-of justified in that when j-ross said 'i would fuck you' to gwyneth paltrow on tv, i did feel that some sort of a line had been crossed. but with this...

it's hard to talk about this kind of hysteria (on both sides: "thought police" vs "the ineradicable racism of the former colonial power") without getting hysterical about what it all signifies.

special guest stars mark bronson, Friday, 6 February 2009 10:39 (fifteen years ago) link

The BBC have said they will still employ her on other programmes just not the One Show so she hasn't been sacked.

The Unbelievably Insensitive Baroness Vadera (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 6 February 2009 10:43 (fifteen years ago) link

So, it's Adrian Chiles who won't 'work' 'with' her, I guess.

Mark G, Friday, 6 February 2009 10:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Ron Atkinson-style sensitive examination of racial politics in the works already.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Friday, 6 February 2009 10:53 (fifteen years ago) link

well, this is sort of what i mean. what ron atkinson said was worse; but also the nightmare HYS/CIF/etc "culture" of the last couple of years hadn't kicked in. ron-gate did not seem to generate quite this amount of horseshit, and that took place when the economy wasn't imploding.

special guest stars mark bronson, Friday, 6 February 2009 10:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Wasn't on the BBC either though and that's crucial to why this is being supersized.

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Friday, 6 February 2009 11:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, yes - it would help if the current BBC had anything resembling a backbone.

(see also unsacked Mayor of London Boris "P*cc*n*nn**s" Johnson)

Bernard Braden Misreads Stephen Leacock (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 6 February 2009 11:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Except that I think she should have at least been suspended. This has backfired on the BBC surely as it has been 'supersized' more by the anti-PC brigade though. It was the DM who put her on the front page.

The Unbelievably Insensitive Baroness Vadera (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 6 February 2009 11:10 (fifteen years ago) link

troo, and the mail's blatant hypocrisy w/r/t this vs ross-brand is why they have to lean on the dreadful 'it was in private' argument. that argument doesn't hold water. reckon that it carol thatcher had said 'i am sorry, it was unthinkingly insensitive' this would have blown over.

xpost

johnson was clearly using 'picanninies' ironically to deflate blair's imperial pretensions. he's a terrible man and everything, but it's basic reading comp stuff.

special guest stars mark bronson, Friday, 6 February 2009 11:10 (fifteen years ago) link

There's details of a new BBC apology on the CBale thread.

Mark G, Friday, 6 February 2009 11:12 (fifteen years ago) link

this is Carol Thatcher ffs. under whatever pretext I'm glad to get rid of her.

tomofthenest, Friday, 6 February 2009 11:15 (fifteen years ago) link


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