Those Brits sure love their Thatcher

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What's he got against lorry drivers anyway?

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:33 (fifteen years ago) link

you'd think those gay eurocrats would like their bananas BENT but oh no...

super shareaholic firefox add (onimo), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link

they kill his favourite prostitutes xp

O Supermanchiros (blueski), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link

He prefers white van men xpost

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link

When he says "lorry drivers" he means "militant Frenchmen" or more accurately "upstart frogs".

super shareaholic firefox add (onimo), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Who lumber through the winding lanes of rural England, flattening hedgehogs I suppose he means

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:37 (fifteen years ago) link

And killing animals is an Englishman's job

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:39 (fifteen years ago) link

And Michael Richards was just misunderstood.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:43 (fifteen years ago) link

That the One Show should be involved in all this nonsense is totally unsurprising. Last year I was invited onto it to talk about grey squirrels – yes I want them severely controlled. Oddly, the pro-squirrel guest was the urban Anika Rice.

I love the way that these twats think that we should bow down to the opinions of country folk when it comes to squirrels when it was precisely the country-dwelling gentry of the time who introduced the little buggers in the first place. Arsewipes.

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Does Jeremy Clarkson keeps this photo in his attic?

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/04_03/RobinPageMOS_468x409.jpg

Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link

if so its magic makes him look at least 18 months younger

admin log special guest star (DG), Thursday, 5 February 2009 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link

You see, urban folk don't understand the countryside ways.

Whereas countryside people understand countryside ways AND city ways!

Mark G, Thursday, 5 February 2009 16:23 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1135359/MELANIE-PHILLIPS-The-age-snitch--public-sector-informers-creating-Stasi-Britain-.html

expand the comments on this page if you wish to see dozens of marcello carlins.

Henry Frog (Frogman Henry), Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:15 (fifteen years ago) link

got to comment #4 before punching a hole in the monitor.

tomofthenest, Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link

However wrote this expressed my views with far more clarity and forthrightness than I could ever do - and to a wider audience. Well done, and I endorse every word.

- Jean, SW, England

James Mitchell, Thursday, 5 February 2009 18:51 (fifteen years ago) link

This is the kind of utter looniness that springs up in the wake of the destruction of a masculinised society and its replacement by a feminised society. It was inevitable.

I rest my case.

- Eric Legge, Ongar,

But you haven't made your case yet.

The Unbelievably Insensitive Baroness Vadera (Ned Trifle II), Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Don't Look Back In Ongar

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Thursday, 5 February 2009 21:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Clearly with any HYS-type set-up you're going to get the nutbags and idiots.

But I fail to see how a careless but lighthearted remark made after the imbibement of a few drinks in the company of friends equates with Enoch Powell in '68.

Furthermore, if everyone's so obsessed with this happening In The Workplace, what the hell are the BBC doing allowing alcohol to be consumed In The Workplace?

As with Ross and Brand, nobody would have known or given a toss about this if the meejah hadn't picked up on it and decided to make it an issue.

Who cares if we end up not talking to anyone else and no one talks to us for fear of getting the sack or being sued? It's a Good Story!

Bernard Braden Misreads Stephen Leacock (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 6 February 2009 09:22 (fifteen years ago) link

But I fail to see how a careless but lighthearted remark made after the imbibement of a few drinks in the company of friends equates with Enoch Powell in '68.

Er, the answer is, it doesn't, and nobody except you has claimed it does. Enoch Powell was a member of the Shadow Cabinet, and was sacked. Carol Thatcher did little reports on some shitty TV show, and she hasn't been sacked (because as you've pointed out, she's a freelancer). There's no equates in there.

JimD, Friday, 6 February 2009 09:53 (fifteen years ago) link

dropped = sacked.

Daily Mirror has an interview with the mother of "Thatcher's Victim"

(Didn't look in though, so it might have been the mothers of all those miners or something...)

Mark G, Friday, 6 February 2009 10:22 (fifteen years ago) link

tbh i thought the hysteria over ross/brand was sort-of justified in that when j-ross said 'i would fuck you' to gwyneth paltrow on tv, i did feel that some sort of a line had been crossed. but with this...

it's hard to talk about this kind of hysteria (on both sides: "thought police" vs "the ineradicable racism of the former colonial power") without getting hysterical about what it all signifies.

special guest stars mark bronson, Friday, 6 February 2009 10:39 (fifteen years ago) link

The BBC have said they will still employ her on other programmes just not the One Show so she hasn't been sacked.

The Unbelievably Insensitive Baroness Vadera (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 6 February 2009 10:43 (fifteen years ago) link

So, it's Adrian Chiles who won't 'work' 'with' her, I guess.

Mark G, Friday, 6 February 2009 10:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Ron Atkinson-style sensitive examination of racial politics in the works already.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Friday, 6 February 2009 10:53 (fifteen years ago) link

well, this is sort of what i mean. what ron atkinson said was worse; but also the nightmare HYS/CIF/etc "culture" of the last couple of years hadn't kicked in. ron-gate did not seem to generate quite this amount of horseshit, and that took place when the economy wasn't imploding.

special guest stars mark bronson, Friday, 6 February 2009 10:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Wasn't on the BBC either though and that's crucial to why this is being supersized.

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Friday, 6 February 2009 11:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, yes - it would help if the current BBC had anything resembling a backbone.

(see also unsacked Mayor of London Boris "P*cc*n*nn**s" Johnson)

Bernard Braden Misreads Stephen Leacock (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 6 February 2009 11:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Except that I think she should have at least been suspended. This has backfired on the BBC surely as it has been 'supersized' more by the anti-PC brigade though. It was the DM who put her on the front page.

The Unbelievably Insensitive Baroness Vadera (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 6 February 2009 11:10 (fifteen years ago) link

troo, and the mail's blatant hypocrisy w/r/t this vs ross-brand is why they have to lean on the dreadful 'it was in private' argument. that argument doesn't hold water. reckon that it carol thatcher had said 'i am sorry, it was unthinkingly insensitive' this would have blown over.

xpost

johnson was clearly using 'picanninies' ironically to deflate blair's imperial pretensions. he's a terrible man and everything, but it's basic reading comp stuff.

special guest stars mark bronson, Friday, 6 February 2009 11:10 (fifteen years ago) link

There's details of a new BBC apology on the CBale thread.

Mark G, Friday, 6 February 2009 11:12 (fifteen years ago) link

this is Carol Thatcher ffs. under whatever pretext I'm glad to get rid of her.

tomofthenest, Friday, 6 February 2009 11:15 (fifteen years ago) link

stellar argument, kudos.

special guest stars mark bronson, Friday, 6 February 2009 11:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Boris did say that in public, but to be fair he also apologised for saying it.

If CT's drinking companions had said "look, I don't agree with you" or "look, that's out of order" or similar when she made that remark - as any reasonable person who knew her would have done - and she corrected herself then nothing more would have been heard about it.

But someone - I'm unconvinced that Chiles and/or Brand were even in the same room when she said it - decided to throw a hissy fit and go to the headmaster whining daddy daddy thith woman thaid thomething terrible and they're the person who should be kicked out of the BBC, not CT.

Bernard Braden Misreads Stephen Leacock (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 6 February 2009 11:16 (fifteen years ago) link

no marcello, she was asked to withdraw the remark and apologised, she refused and was sacked. it's famously hard to get sacked from the bbc!

joe, Friday, 6 February 2009 11:19 (fifteen years ago) link

*apologise

joe, Friday, 6 February 2009 11:19 (fifteen years ago) link

If CT's drinking companions had said "look, I don't agree with you" or "look, that's out of order"

of course nothing like that happened and you know 'cause you were there

I'm unconvinced that Chiles and/or Brand were even in the same room when she said it

hooray for you!

talk me down off the (ledge), Friday, 6 February 2009 11:20 (fifteen years ago) link

also bbc one controller confirmed brand and chiles were in the room. don't let the facts get in the way.

joe, Friday, 6 February 2009 11:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Why should she apologise to anyone except the people who professed to be offended by her remark?

If the BBC carries on like this they won't be able to attract anyone to work for them and they'll be dead/privatised (same difference) in five years.

Bernard Braden Misreads Stephen Leacock (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 6 February 2009 11:22 (fifteen years ago) link

she didn't apologise to anyone

Mark G, Friday, 6 February 2009 11:25 (fifteen years ago) link

MC trolling scorecard: this thread rates C minus - unconvincing and transparent. Could do better.

talk me down off the (ledge), Friday, 6 February 2009 11:26 (fifteen years ago) link

feel that im being drawn into the hysteria but: um, has anyone brought up the shit chris moyles has got a way with on air?

special guest stars mark bronson, Friday, 6 February 2009 11:26 (fifteen years ago) link

away with

special guest stars mark bronson, Friday, 6 February 2009 11:26 (fifteen years ago) link

i think several papers have mentioned the moyles stuff. halle berry incident was particularly awkward iirc.

joe, Friday, 6 February 2009 11:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Isn't it the case with Moyles that his show and personality are tailored to a specific audience who know exactly what they're going to get and that those likely to be offended by him know better than to tune in?

Bernard Braden Misreads Stephen Leacock (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 6 February 2009 11:33 (fifteen years ago) link

(or, indeed, agree to be interviewed by him?)

Bernard Braden Misreads Stephen Leacock (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 6 February 2009 11:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Oscar winning actress Halle Berry (above) took great offence to Chris’ “big, fat, black guy” impersonation. She questioned if he was being racist live on air during an interview with Hugh Jackman for one of the X Men films. Afterwards he said she was "bratty” and should get over herself.

think her exact words were "are we having a racist moment here?"

joe, Friday, 6 February 2009 11:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Isn't it the case with Moyles that his show and personality are tailored to a specific audience who know exactly what they're going to get and that those likely to be offended by him know better than to tune in?

― Bernard Braden Misreads Stephen Leacock (Marcello Carlin), Friday, February 6, 2009 12:33 PM (25 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah well it was the same with DER STURMER.

also, i don't think 'people who listen to pop music in the morning' implies 'pigshit-ignorant racist, homophobic, sexist-liking twat'. 'if you don't like it, don't tune in' is not the best defense for a publicly funded service -- though sometimes it has to be made. not, i would have thought, of a flagship mainstream show, though.

special guest stars mark bronson, Friday, 6 February 2009 11:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Doesn't Berry/her agent have highly paid researchers who can find out what sort of a chap Moyles is before agreeing to talk to him?

I don't particularly like Nick Ferrari or James Whale ranting away about Broken Britain or whatever they do on their flagship LBC mainstream shows but I deal with the dilemma by not listening to them. Listeners do have the choice.

Bernard Braden Misreads Stephen Leacock (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 6 February 2009 11:38 (fifteen years ago) link

why don't you stop reading all this news coverage that annoys you so much then?

joe, Friday, 6 February 2009 11:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Doesn't Berry/her agent have highly paid researchers who can find out what sort of a chap Moyles is before agreeing to talk to him?

Probably, also there is the possibility that said agent (or some underling) got sacked for putting her into this.

Mark G, Friday, 6 February 2009 11:44 (fifteen years ago) link


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