'job'
― iatee, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 01:44 (eleven years ago) link
really enjoying my jacobin subscription
― buzza, Wednesday, 16 January 2013 02:38 (eleven years ago) link
comes with a football phone
― fiscal cliff huxtable (latebloomer), Wednesday, 16 January 2013 10:23 (eleven years ago) link
started this thread just in time
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/21/books/bhaskar-sunkara-editor-of-jacobin-magazine.html?_r=0
― flopson, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 18:51 (eleven years ago) link
new issue looks really tight http://jacobinmag.com/2013/08/issue-1112-preview-misery-index/
― flopson, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 23:09 (ten years ago) link
ian svenonius on tipping lol
claire potter B-)
― flopson, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 23:19 (ten years ago) link
Silent Majority Music
To put it most unkindly, trap music is adult contemporary for the prosumer age.
By Gavin Mueller
― flopson, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 23:26 (ten years ago) link
it made me genuinely happy to read that
― password1 (Lamp), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 23:29 (ten years ago) link
ahhhhhh good htat sounds like it will make up for that fucking yacht rock article
― max, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 23:32 (ten years ago) link
lol
― flopson, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 23:34 (ten years ago) link
haha oh god of course Sc-tt McL*m** is going to be involved in this magazine and their books section. (i know for a fact he's a self googler because at least once i made a snide comment about an article of his in a location he would never be browsing by chance and he showed up to call me names). his work for the chronicle of higher ed is invariable the _worst_ and he manages to show up anywhere with a bit of radical buzz to be a wet blanket astonishingly consistently.
― stefon taylor swiftboat (s.clover), Thursday, 8 August 2013 00:31 (ten years ago) link
yeesh, guys
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 12 June 2014 15:04 (ten years ago) link
I can't figure out what happened
― famous instagram God (waterface), Thursday, 12 June 2014 15:07 (ten years ago) link
well incredibly someone made this explanatory and admittedly jacobin-friendly-leaning series of images
http://i.imgur.com/ZQRrxnM.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/C9XjqfY.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/2eDzzfY.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/JCkQmFP.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/4bcbxRW.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/3OArP2J.jpg
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 12 June 2014 15:13 (ten years ago) link
Jesus that did not help
― famous instagram God (waterface), Thursday, 12 June 2014 15:15 (ten years ago) link
I can't even stand to read all that, but good job making sure the Left continues to resemble high school guys.
― Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2), Thursday, 12 June 2014 15:17 (ten years ago) link
wtf
― polyamanita (sleeve), Thursday, 12 June 2014 15:22 (ten years ago) link
i saw that some twitterstorm was happening but didn't bother trying to piece it together, seemingly one of the better decisions i've ever made.
― Merdeyeux, Thursday, 12 June 2014 15:22 (ten years ago) link
simplified version:
i mean from my perspective jacobin made a big editorial mistake by linking to a tweet about such a sensitive topic without seeking permission first--they fixed that mistake in less than 30 minutes and were contrite. another jacobin staffer who had nothing to do with the article stepped up to bat to defend the decision to link to the tweet, and bat back at kendzior's claim that the article mocked her. then it was 4 solid days of internet warfare between kendzior's crew & jacobin people, with ongoing exaggerations and misrepresentations and bad faith arguments on all sides. so fucking nasty.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 12 June 2014 15:25 (ten years ago) link
yuck
― polyamanita (sleeve), Thursday, 12 June 2014 15:31 (ten years ago) link
I'm glad to be on ILX where nothing like that ever happens
― 龜, Thursday, 12 June 2014 15:51 (ten years ago) link
hahahaha
― famous instagram God (waterface), Thursday, 12 June 2014 15:53 (ten years ago) link
i mean i think the throughline here is kendzior misreading things other people are saying about her--like her incredible misreading of stoker's piece, which was about people (like K) attacking the author of the article & the odious tactic of enforcing 'left discipline' via character assassination, which Kendzior somehow reads and passes on as 'stoker says i should be disciplined through character assassination.'
idk like stoker has been one of my favorite writers for years since a minister friend directed me to her, even when i think she's wrong i've been impressed by her empathy and thoughtfulness, so to see her sucked into this and smeared as a rape apologist based on something she didn't even say is such a disheartening microcosm of this whole weird blowup.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 12 June 2014 15:53 (ten years ago) link
i should start writing for jacobin and people can accuse me of being Eugene Debs
jacobin clusterfuck summary corner
so to see her sucked into this and smeared as a rape apologist based on something she didn't even say is such a disheartening microcosm of this whole weird blowup.
Yeah man, the Internet. What can you do. It sucks
― famous instagram God (waterface), Thursday, 12 June 2014 15:54 (ten years ago) link
The bro bash piece is a good read though
― Treeship, Thursday, 12 June 2014 15:57 (ten years ago) link
Firing off bro-mots at the brodeo is not only great fun, it’s therapeutic — a helpful coping mechanism for professional or social environments in which the boyish and brutish dominate. When it’s not stifling or annoying, intellectual machismo feels, at the very least, comically anachronistic in our modern, enlightened circles. Like men who still wear wristwatches or take overly rustic vacations, these affectations hardly warrant female attention, let alone the respect they’re designed to command.
Men who still wear wristwatches? What horseshit
― famous instagram God (waterface), Thursday, 12 June 2014 16:00 (ten years ago) link
I loled
― Treeship, Thursday, 12 June 2014 16:06 (ten years ago) link
I also liked the image of the aw shucks blogger snapping their suspenders to avoid charges of elitism
― Treeship, Thursday, 12 June 2014 16:07 (ten years ago) link
Lawyers wear wristwatches partly because you can't bring phones into some courthouses.
― Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2), Thursday, 12 June 2014 16:09 (ten years ago) link
Also because they need to have a bigger watchface than the guy next to them
― 龜, Thursday, 12 June 2014 16:10 (ten years ago) link
true
― Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2), Thursday, 12 June 2014 16:13 (ten years ago) link
the big takeaway from this whole mess isn't "the left is like high school" it's "sarah kendzior is a liar"
― goole, Thursday, 12 June 2014 16:15 (ten years ago) link
one of my friends posts a lot on fb about how terrible she is, but honestly who the fuck is she anyway and why should I even care?
― Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2), Thursday, 12 June 2014 16:16 (ten years ago) link
No one needs to ask permission to cite or quote a public statement. And unless your Twitter feed is private, a tweet is a public statement. Should the writer have included that link? No; it added nothing to the piece (as evidenced by the fact that the piece stands up perfectly well without it). But did she need Kendzior's (or anyone's) permission to link to something Kendzior had, all on her own, entered into the public record? Absolutely not.
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 12 June 2014 16:19 (ten years ago) link
i haven't read the orig jacobin piece, but jesus i feel like i get its argument for the amount of time i've wasted figuring out who said what here, and i think it's pretty dumb. i mean, bro-ness and rape culture probably need to be associated, right?
and yeah, pulling up a tweet on something really touchy w/o asking seems a little unethical to me, whatever the journalistic rules about twitter being nakedly public etc etc
but come on, kendzior lied over and over again about what other people were saying about the article and about her
but all of THAT said, the truly odd paranoid speculation from some quarters (looking at u doug henwood) that kendzior is some kind of red-baiting plant to discredit the left
― goole, Thursday, 12 June 2014 16:22 (ten years ago) link
lol didn't even finish
...is really nutty
― goole, Thursday, 12 June 2014 16:23 (ten years ago) link
can someone explain the wristwatch thing please
― conrad, Thursday, 12 June 2014 16:26 (ten years ago) link
I don't think I follow
She's critiquing the bourgeois conception of time as something static and measurable like a commodity.
― Treeship, Thursday, 12 June 2014 16:47 (ten years ago) link
normal people have phones to tell time.
watches are jewelry worn by rich men
― goole, Thursday, 12 June 2014 16:50 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, where that fails is that time is static but not measurable
― 龜, Thursday, 12 June 2014 16:50 (ten years ago) link
I think it's supposed to be "the kind of guys who still wear big phallic symbols on their wrists even though they no longer have the cover of functionality"
― Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2), Thursday, 12 June 2014 16:56 (ten years ago) link
Also the idea that men wear watches to impress women seems a lil fucked
― famous instagram God (waterface), Thursday, 12 June 2014 16:57 (ten years ago) link
is the shanley thing a different thing?
― caek, Thursday, 12 June 2014 17:19 (ten years ago) link
"the whole left explodes" is like a dozen people punching in a circle, right?
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 12 June 2014 17:28 (ten years ago) link
but honestly who the fuck is she anyway and why should I even care?
― Hier Komme Die Warum Jetzt (Hurting 2), Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:16 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
wrote the 'perils of hipster economics' piece that's been making the rounds lately
academic, al jazeera columnist, 20k buddies on twitter
when she's upset, a lot of people pay attention
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 12 June 2014 17:48 (ten years ago) link
― caek, Thursday, June 12, 2014 5:19 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
is shanley also mad at jacobin now
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 12 June 2014 17:49 (ten years ago) link