I think it's fine to anticipate Wes Anderson's Moonrise Kingdom

ha.

At the essence below his love of British sixties pop and colorful clothes are...a love of Francoise Hardy and people holding cigarettes in mannerist poses.

i agree that burton is way way worse, espec once he turned into the ed wood of CGI.

i def don't want to make it sound like i wish wes anderson would prove us all wrong by making a planet of the apes movie

interesting that both wes and tim's debut movies heavily involve texas, which you wouldn't expect from their later work

yeah but look how well he did with a Planet of the Foxes movie.

"make me a daiquiri, koko. the way they do down south."

Anderson's "Fantastic Mr. Fox" is so much better and better fleshed out than Dahl's.

Dahl's book ends in medias res, with the farmer's waiting for the foxes to come. "And there they wait, still, to this very day" or something like that. I have a weird suspicious that dictated every one of his stories in real time, just making shit up as he went along, flow be damned.

which Burton movie should Anderson remake

Pee Wee.

"Big Fish."

Edward Cigarettehands

Anderson's "Fantastic Mr. Fox" is so much better and better fleshed out than Dahl's.

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, January 17, 2013 10:20 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

there's more of it alright. That doesn't make it better

I'll grant Anderson: more directors should follow his lead and make 80- and 90-minute fillums.

Anderson's "Fantastic Mr. Fox" is so much better and better fleshed out than Dahl's.

ugh ugh no no nothing worse than 'experts' coming in and retooling a genuinely magical work so that it 'fits; whatever standard identikit they learned in media/film.whatever school- even if i like fantastio mr fox, the fact that anderson ran with (the very burtonesque) "this is now autobiographical" angle for it only worked out by dumb luck imo- it is in no way one of the better things about the movie.

what's the autobiographical angle?

alienated precocious teen fox anderson

I have to represent my home town and point out that Rushmore also takes place in Texas--specifically Houston.

i don't think it actually "takes place" there. Shot there maybe

How many of you have actual read "Mr. Fox" lately and are not just fondly remembering it from childhood? I read it all the time with my daughter, and trust me, all the important stuff is in the movie. Movie works better because it is not entirely faithful, which is why movie versions of "The Witches" and "Matilda" don't work. Those books are a narrative mess.

Thats true, Number. Though it captures how Houston feels in the winter extremely well so it always feels like a "Houston" movie to me.

Also, I would hardly consider Anderson's "Mr. Fox" identikit in any sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRoLgBE9AOs

he has talked about going back to Texas to do a western with Owen Wilson recently. Might be hard to escape the shadow of Shanghai Noon though

I love "Fox" and how it toys with anthropomorphized animals accepting their subsumed animalness. Don't think I would like an Anderson western.

see? he should reboot that!

xpost

Jackie Chan would probably become a lot more inscrutable

Jackie Chan would be played by Bill Murray.

as for your previous question Josh, i haven't read the book recently but in my mind it wasn't a story that desperately needed fleshing out. It's kind of a fable. Most people seemed to like the movie more than me though

Bruce Willis would play Wilson.

xpost You'd be shocked, maybe, by how little there is to the "Fox" book.

Dahl always had the slighter stuff in between the big classics. You'd have to add a load of stuff to The Twits to turn it into a movie but you'd more than likely lose something in the process

Sure, but "The Twits" has this tit for tat rhythm going on. "Fox" is just weirdly incomplete. "Matilda," on the other hand, has too much, an example of a great story almost totally unhinged by his erratic narrative. It's a great book about a smart lonely girl sent to a strict school with only a single kind teacher as parent figure, and then ... out of nowhere he gives her "Carrie"-like telekinetic powers! Much of "The Witches" is just a long description of what witches are, followed by a showdown. "BFG" may be his most solid, followed by "Charlie." Even "James and the Giant Peach" was more slight than I remembered it. "Danny and the Magic Finger" truly reads like it was spontaneously dictated in one sit.

Still love Dahl, though. It's a testament to his gifts that his stories and characters transcend the books that contain then!

"Anderson doesn't have a filter that he applies to existing corporate properties once a year"

His commercials are good!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spCknVcaSHg

self-parodying wes anderson has way more spirit than wes anderson wes anderson.

coherent plots were not dahl's strong suit (fantastic mr fox is actually one of the more cohesive ones); all of his books are just carried along by this crazy storytelling zest, where you genuinely can't tell what's going to happen next except that the unpleasant characters are sure to suffer some hilarious fate. most dahl movies are relatively faithful to the books, which is why they don't work that well -- you need his narrative voice for the stories to work at all (the original willy wonka is the exception; i know dahl hated it but it's the only one of the movies ive seen that seems to capture his simultaneous sense of malevolence and tenderness). anderson's movie is great because it doesn't try to reproduce the book; it just uses the characters and general plot to do something completely different.

ok, let's try again to discuss MOONRISE KINGDOM and this WONDERFULLY ILLUSTRATED SCRIPT

http://focusguilds2012.com/mrkscript/

Is this an official thing or fan-made?

Jackie Chan would probably become a lot more inscrutable

― Number None, Thursday, January 17, 2013 5:38 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hey now

that script/scrapbook thing is very pretty but also very tumblr-y

ok, let's try again to discuss MOONRISE KINGDOM and this WONDERFULLY ILLUSTRATED SCRIPT

I think everyone ignored you first time because it was in fact horribily presented and takes a minute to load every fuzzy, out of focus page

AB, it's on the studio site

morbius if you like that sort of thing you should check out tumblr.
http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/wes%20anderson

i'm not too familiar with either, but i bet the equivalent for miranda july would be pinterest maybe?

My favorite part of the book of Fantastic Mr. Fox was the luscious descriptions of the poultry

the idea that he's reinventing himself is a bit of a joke though. he's just drilling down.

― zero dark (s1ocki), Thursday, January 17, 2013 4:51 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

otm

interesting that both wes and tim's debut movies heavily involve texas, which you wouldn't expect from their later work

― da croupier, Thursday, January 17, 2013 5:14 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark

yeah, i cant imagine WA deigning to set another movie in texas, which is a pity because he observes the milieu a lot better/more precisely than he does upper crust new englanders. rushmore's secretly one of the most accurate texas movies ever made

what's texas-y about it?

its just a p sweet portrait of the houston/dallas upper class private school scene

do you think it's intentional, or just sort of leaked into the movie?

the movie is overflowing with houston... it's constantly leaking OUT of the movie.

i'd recently watched predators2 and there's a scene shot in BART which is really dissonant to see if you've ever been on BART, so is it a similar odd feeling when watching Rushmore?