thread of inappropriate professional attachments

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was it a beer professor? do you go to beer university???

zero dark (s1ocki), Friday, 18 January 2013 00:36 (eleven years ago) link

hahaha, he actually said that when no-one spoke up. but in this context it stood for international phonetic alphabet.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 18 January 2013 00:37 (eleven years ago) link

haven't talked to her this year. freed myself of the shackles. feeling good. looking forward to independence, thoughts no longer obsessively turning over one subject, and making all other subjects attendant upon that main subject or chucking them out if not.

three things recently felt like they had relevance to this however:

1) an interview with George Saunders where the interviewer says at one point

We’d been on the subject of death for a while. A friend I loved very much died recently, and I was trying to describe the state I sometimes still found myself in — not quite of this world, but each day a little less removed — and how I knew it was a good thing, the re-entry, but I regretted it too, because it meant the dimming of a kind of awareness that doesn’t get lit up very much.

the fact this relates to death is probably a good example exemplary of the greedy melodramatic bathos of the lovelorn - co-opting the genuinely moving or tragic in language or moments to the cause of self dramatisation. not sure it's a bad thing - can look rather absurd from the outside. but anyway, yes, that dimming. (after all part of the dangerous seduction of the IPA is the excitement (nascent love) it brings to the dull (monotonous work).)

2) Taylor Swift singing 'I forget about you long enough to forget why I needed to' - a version of Elvis' I Forgot To Remember to Forget You, I guess, but I like the recursive sense in T Swift's version: you think you're ok enough not to worry about falling back into thinking about them and seeing them, and if you're still thinking that you're still enmeshed. An addictive mentality. That line's from All Too Well, a song that also contains the line 'I might be OK, but I'm not fine at all' - a very good description of maintaining day-to-day life amidst the unimportant foolish misery of IPA heartbreak).

3) A line in James Merrill's The Book of Ephraim (I posted about it here)... well, it's the final line from this bit anyway:

Lodeizen, Hans, 1924-50,
Dutch poet. Author of Het Innerlijk
Behang
, &c. Studies in America.
Clever, goodnatured, solitary, blond,
All to a disquieting degree.
Plays a recording of the "Spring" Sonata
One May night when JM has a fever;
Unspoken things divide them from then on.

That description of an unbroachable silence growing between people, until they become alien to each other who once had each other so well known - of losing people through silence - is great. There's also a feeling that 'unspoken things' is representative not just of silence, but of 'dark unnatural things', malign entities - unspoken because we must not speak of them - that come between people, populating the space between them and muffling the human desire to communicate, sowing death and sadness (after all the last time you speak to someone is a kind of death, the last time you properly speak to them).

Anyway, there was a rapprochement today, 'How are you?! are you busy?! thanks for the cd! (now you thank me, he said darkly. but there can be no backsliding. IPA is for drinking. Or a handy tool for analysis of and instruction in a læẽgwəd͡ʒɪz sound system.

Fizzles, Monday, 21 January 2013 22:41 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

~*Our Last Day Together*~

;_;

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

:(

:C (crüt), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

but there can be no backsliding

correction: there can be some backsliding.

Say Bo to a (Fizzles), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

grady, i have a feeling some of us possibly including me are half-hoping you say/said something enigmatic with a pleasant but slightly dodgy undertone on your way out the door and that if you do/did you will make a full and frank report.

estela, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 22:15 (eleven years ago) link

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyg1tw3ATW1qb7modo1_500.png

kinder, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 22:19 (eleven years ago) link

estela otm

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 22:20 (eleven years ago) link

Fizzles needs thread to initiate professional rapprochements

ben foster five (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 22:22 (eleven years ago) link

xpost oops it's in spanish lol, oh well

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 22:24 (eleven years ago) link

fizzles, did i briefly meet the subject of this attachment? my visual memory has faded but i can recall that there was definitely cause for distraction

imago, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 22:26 (eleven years ago) link

Italian, actually.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 22:44 (eleven years ago) link

which is the Italian title of Love, Actually.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 22:45 (eleven years ago) link

grady, i have a feeling some of us possibly including me are half-hoping you say/said something enigmatic with a pleasant but slightly dodgy undertone on your way out the door and that if you do/did you will make a full and frank report.

she kind of beat me to this tbh!! all I had to do was give a knowing smile and nod, which was more than enough.

she took me out to lunch btw

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 23:12 (eleven years ago) link

<3 grady shows us how to leave

estela, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 23:26 (eleven years ago) link

nice

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 23:29 (eleven years ago) link

did i briefly meet the subject of this attachment? my visual memory has faded but i can recall that there was definitely cause for distraction

I don't think that would have been possible tbh (tho it is possible you briefly met an appropriate and perfectly sanctified attachment, who I also knew in a professional capacity - not quite such a catchy thread title).

Need to practice grady's nod and smile. way things have gone generally I'd look like a yokel with a twitch.

Say Bo to a (Fizzles), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 07:59 (eleven years ago) link

but there can be no backsliding

correction: there can be some backsliding.

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fizzle tics (Fizzles), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

The sun is hot stuff, fizzles. Next time epoxy yr feathers.

Aimless, Saturday, 23 February 2013 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

she is nothing like the sun. more like a quasar.

fizzles tics (Fizzles), Sunday, 24 February 2013 10:35 (eleven years ago) link

need wings of elemental adamant from the core of Pluto.

and to flap very hard.

fizzles tics (Fizzles), Sunday, 24 February 2013 10:38 (eleven years ago) link

Damn bro that's a hell of a pedestal you're building

new hope for orang-utan (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 24 February 2013 10:58 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, tell me about it. rest assured she's just a v nice person who I like a lot. not, idk, Cleopatra or anything, nor am I on some self-destructive jag like Bob in Hamilton's The Midnight Bell. but we're close professionally and like elliptical orbits seem to have times of great closeness and at other times for us to be distant from each other.

distance is safest and easiest to either envisage escaping from, or having escaped from, or in the process of escaping from the attachment, but is a lot less fun than the closeness.

basically I'm happier in her company than out of it, and I've resigned myself to being hooked until I'm unhooked. and well, you never know - we do have a ball from time to time.

in fact both Ezra and Icarus were chosen as much for their portrayals of indifference or embarrassment of the rest of the world (idk the story behind the durer - but that's what it looks like). obv such things are v important to the person going thru them - the most important thing - but to the outside world there is at best a bafflement. think Kipling's a rag a bone and a hank of hair.

I shd probably shut up rly, as it's been veering twds 77 territory for a while, but there is a large part of me that finds it not unamusing or without interest.

fizzles tics (Fizzles), Sunday, 24 February 2013 11:36 (eleven years ago) link

we do have a ball from time to time

if ever further clarification were needed

c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Sunday, 24 February 2013 11:55 (eleven years ago) link

(please answer in pictorial form)

c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Sunday, 24 February 2013 11:57 (eleven years ago) link

Just starting to experience this for the first time. Not sure I'd find my crush remotely attractive outside of the workplace environment, but I'm curiously unmoved by this realisation. If anything it adds a slight air of mystique to the attraction.

Fortunately I'm spared all the awkwardness that's supposed to be attendant on this sort of situation by the fact that she's married and a decade older than me, and I'm kinda viewed as the baby in the office. I'm not sure anyone takes me very seriously yet. To that extent I suppose this is more like crushing on a teacher than a colleague, even though she is the person in the office who's nearest me in age. Still, it's quite nice though. Again, as with teachers at school, I suspect it'd be near impossible to work in a office with more than a couple of members of the opposite sex and not fancy any of them even a little bit.

In fact, upon reflection, this is EXACTLY like fancying the teacher at school - the fact that she's married and unattainable is the whole point I think. Never really thought about it in those terms though

Windsor Davies, Sunday, 24 February 2013 12:00 (eleven years ago) link

Miss Fenwick. I must have been about five or six. Distraught when she married a German. Genuinely felt the barriers were not insuperable. Feel WD describes appropriate inappropriate professional attachment and I shd listen and learn.

imago - ill have a think about a pictorial representation of our hi-jinks, but in the meantime you did remind me that I have a... inappropriate er... something attachment to the grouping of women at the far left front of Poussin's Triumph of David, that is at least partially informed by my IPA tho largely in spirit and deportment than featural resemblance:

http://iamled.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/triumph-of-david.jpg

fizzles tics (Fizzles), Sunday, 24 February 2013 12:29 (eleven years ago) link

I always figured lj would return, i forgot about the rules of the sequel- add spawn

lance armstrong will have been delighted (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 February 2013 12:32 (eleven years ago) link

Aliens in Dulwich Picture Gallery. Examining catalogue nos etc. Ah balls, anyway. it's the thread for it after all.

fizzles tics (Fizzles), Sunday, 24 February 2013 12:43 (eleven years ago) link

xpost and, ah, easy there fella. I may leave trails but I prefer them of breadcrumbs than actual ID parades.

fizzles tics (Fizzles), Sunday, 24 February 2013 12:44 (eleven years ago) link

Miss Fenwick. I must have been about five or six. Distraught when she married a German. Genuinely felt the barriers were not insuperable. Feel WD describes appropriate inappropriate professional attachment and I shd listen and learn.

We should probably hang fire on this sort of judgement at least until I've got through a Christmas party or a leaving do or something. I may turn out to have feet of clay yet, definitely have previous with hugely inappropriate declarations of, if not love, then certainly affection/lust on these sorts of occasions.

Windsor Davies, Sunday, 24 February 2013 12:52 (eleven years ago) link

Oh and how's N.5. getting on? Has he gone full Ralf Hutter yet? Never seen a man so preternaturally suited to his work - I think witnessing his neophyte mastery was what discouraged me from really trying

c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Sunday, 24 February 2013 12:54 (eleven years ago) link

actually, sorry to be self-important, esp after the self-important garrulousness itt, but do you mind if I get mods to redact the post? it's not so much g00gling as the fact that there are other people I know who go on the site from time to time.

fizzles tics (Fizzles), Sunday, 24 February 2013 13:42 (eleven years ago) link

And so.

c'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le beurre (imago), Sunday, 24 February 2013 13:44 (eleven years ago) link

Ah it's not quite a triple handjob but for nununuilx its enough to be going on with

lance armstrong will have been delighted (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 February 2013 13:55 (eleven years ago) link

oh my god the women at my new workplace

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 1 March 2013 12:04 (eleven years ago) link

Otm

poll that whitey music pfunkboy (darraghmac), Friday, 1 March 2013 12:06 (eleven years ago) link

no joke one of the "br4nd's thr33 c0r3 v4lu3s" is "flir7y"

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Friday, 1 March 2013 14:34 (eleven years ago) link

lol

:C (crüt), Friday, 1 March 2013 14:47 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I dream of staying at a flirty hotel.

give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Thursday, 21 March 2013 16:09 (eleven years ago) link

developing IPA from grad student who keeps coming into my office to hang out/get away from studies (many of them do this, so not necessarily a sign of interest)

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 21 March 2013 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

Your posts are invalid unless you write them in IPA http://ipa.typeit.org/full/

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Thursday, 21 March 2013 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

does your glottal stop when walks in the room?

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 21 March 2013 19:39 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

appropriate bar crush is go

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 7 May 2013 05:41 (eleven years ago) link

four weeks pass...

this shit sucks ;_;

Roz, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 17:45 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

will 2015 be the year I stop having IPAs? no, it will not.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Saturday, 3 January 2015 07:43 (nine years ago) link

four months pass...

oh God. Don't even want to write exactly how I am connected to this person, but I'm a grad student. Not my supervisor, at least.

ljubljana, Thursday, 21 May 2015 01:39 (nine years ago) link


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