― Dan (Surrounded By White Madness) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan (The Point Remains) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link
xp
dan doesn't seem to agree with you!
― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:05 (eighteen years ago) link
No, I meant literally dated....as, to the best of my knowledge, they don't make them (the actual lawn ornaments) anymore.....though drive around Long Island and you'll still spot a few, not to mention in midtown Manhattan.....
http://orient-express.lbwa.verio.net/onyc/images/220images/onyc_220_entrance.jpg
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:07 (eighteen years ago) link
No, probably not. Since most of our ethnic minorities have been here for thirty years or less, I assume American culture is far more sensitive to racial imagery as related to, say, Asian or African people. We do have seem older ethnic groups such as the Sami and the Roma people, but they obviously don't show up at all in American culture.
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:10 (eighteen years ago) link
i don't know if he does but, if so, it does call into question your use of the phrase "De Facto".
― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:11 (eighteen years ago) link
Blackface is de facto offensive. My issue is this: should a child dressed up as Ben Wallace for Halloween be considered blackface? Exactly what does that say about how you view people like Ben Wallace that that was your first reaction to seeing the child? In my mind, this is the racist liberal issue rearing its ugly head again.
― Dan (Excruciating Back Pain) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:11 (eighteen years ago) link
dan i think the point is that blackface is de facto offensive -- _ (...), November 1st, 2005.
which i agree is debateable but i think most americans would agree -- _ (...), November 1st, 2005.
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:12 (eighteen years ago) link
Er, I'd argue that in the kid's mind it isn't.
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:15 (eighteen years ago) link
Yes, I think that that entire line of thought is incredibly dehumanising to black people because the point SHOULD be that we are all people and therefore should get treated the same. There shouldn't be anything special or taboo about a child wanting to dress up as a highly visible and incredibly popular basketball player. Basically, by blanket-calling every single instance where someone wears makeup darker than their skin tone "blackface", you are helping to peretuate the racial divide in this country.
Finally, don't fucking tell me what I should find offensive, white boy.
― Dan (Don't Try That Shit With Me) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:20 (eighteen years ago) link
And would it be offensive for a girl to dress up like a man?
face-ah.
xposts. Dan, Ken, OTM
― when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan (Excruciating Back Pain) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:22 (eighteen years ago) link
(xxxx-post)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― _, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:23 (eighteen years ago) link
You know, I've been at ballparks where these are given away to all kinds of people...
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link
http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/houtsone/lakupekka.jpg
in which actual context is this not offensive?
― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:26 (eighteen years ago) link
and she was japanese, rather than chinese :((((
also i was crawling out of a "sony" brand TV which is a japanese TV manufacturer when i really should have done with say "Konka" brand, just so that i don't appear to have stereotyped Japan with the Sony brand when actualy it just happened to be a famous TV brand used to signify my cardboard box to be a TV. :((((((((((((((
i was a racist dick :(
― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:28 (eighteen years ago) link
Also wtf kind of person gives someone else shit for wearing a Negro Leagues hat?
― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:29 (eighteen years ago) link
and i sometimes wear tshirts with english writings on them :((((
― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link
I don't know that we are. Why do you think this ethan?
― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― jdubz (ex machina), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:41 (eighteen years ago) link
Honoring the Negro Leagues is obviously a good and necessary thing, but again, there's the context. It sort of irritates me in the same way as the NYFD hats worn outside of NY by people who would never be firefighters in a million years. I need to elaborate here...
Hopefully I can explain more and answer other stuff when I'm off work.
― Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 15:41 (eighteen years ago) link
Milkshake Trudeau is Racist.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 19 September 2019 03:51 (five years ago) link
I can’t believe he did it so many times! And he was 29!! Shameful.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 September 2019 14:01 (five years ago) link
https://www.vulture.com/2020/06/blackface-tv-episodes-scenes-removed-streaming.html
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 23:20 (four years ago) link
NBC was a big fan of blackface gags
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 23:27 (four years ago) link
They were also the network that played The Apprentice. Something not right been up with them for awhile.
― pplains, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 00:34 (four years ago) link
Countdown to the discovery of long-missing The Apprentice: Blackface Challenge tapes...
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 02:10 (four years ago) link
Whole network is rotten from the Today show hosts to the late night wars. Who woulda thunk a broadcasting company owned by G.E. would be so awful.
Oh, they're owned by Comcast now. yes, yes, such an improvement.
Anyway. Halloween this year is going to be horrible. I am looking forward to the McCloskey costumes though.
― pplains, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 02:23 (four years ago) link
Er, I've just seen the Bananarama video for "I Want You Back" (with the woman who replaced Siobhan Fahey who no-one remembers)...
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Sunday, 16 April 2023 09:32 (one year ago) link
Beginning of Culture Club's Do You Really Want To Hurt Me video is another one.
― the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 16 April 2023 09:40 (one year ago) link
with the woman who replaced Siobhan Fahey who no-one remembers
some of us will always remember the Shillelagh Sisters
― he thinks it's chinese money (soref), Sunday, 16 April 2023 09:58 (one year ago) link