Gay Marriage to Alfred: Your Thoughts

Or, rather:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qCRpAKOlU3M/T4M8OWCARRI/AAAAAAAAALU/LsVUMZ4IGU8/s1600/0214sybil.jpg

Shows how France is still miles behind the UK when it comes to equality.

how many gays have been knighted? (real question).

closeted or out?

xp france has its own bill imminent right? is that expected to pass?

tons & tons of gay knights

How can they be expected to get that wedding band over their armored finger?

first openly gay peer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waheed_Alli,_Baron_Alli

god bless wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Gay_peers

xpost yeah it will pass, shouldn't take so long, and it's been a callous affair with major anti-marriage equality demonstrations

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Lord_Lloyd.JPG/220px-Lord_Lloyd.JPG

(yes, house of lords now)

Does it not have to go through a Public Bill Committee first, or is that mostly pro forma?

Why are the pretty ones always crazy?

i felt weirdly distanced from all the unpleasant opinions that came out of the woodwork against equal marriage today - is it really a culture WAR if it's only taking place within the tory party, the church and the comments section of the daily mail? it was like a little bonsai culture skirmish, fought by bizarre-world cunts. generally i still think equal marriage is a necessary but minor step towards equality and it's worrying to see anyone treat it like an end goal. as much as i feel like crowing over the opponents, i just feel for the gay kids being raised by them or in those environments, the kids whose identities are being shaped by fear & isolation every day.

For the paranoid authoritarian-follower-types, civilization is always 30 seconds away from total collapse, and only humorless, unrelenting, and simplistic dogmatism can save us.

Plus it makes you feel better that your comfortable unremarkable life now has import, because suddenly you can pretend you're fighting the forces of decay and decadence and corruption.

That's how it works out on the American side of things, at least.

Chik-fil-a 2.0, only this time in the Portland suburbs:

http://www.oregonlive.com/gresham/index.ssf/2013/02/gresham_bakery_finding_buyers.html#incart_river

wth with this incoherent faux-sophisticated garbage that makes bigots (i.e. all of the intermountain fucking west) feel smart.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865572452/Women-in-battle-and-gay-marriage-are-wrong-celebrations-of-equality.html

ugh i regret linking to d3s3r3t n3ws. fuck those idiots.

That's a Mormon thing, isn't it?

http://gawker.com/5986014/mississippi-newspaper-owner-lets-homophobic-readers-have-it-after-they-cancel-subscriptions-over-coverage-of-historic-same+sex-wedding

http://jimromenesko.com/2013/02/21/paper-gets-support-after-being-blasted/

Latter link via WilliamC

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brilliant

silent generation is silent, except when adam and steve want to marry, or when fish in rice is an option

fuck those salmon-eating savages

also, who the fuck 'approves' of the marriage of two people they don't even know? how is approval even a factor in that scenario?

'do you approve of marjorie and rhonda being married'
'no'
'do you know marjorie?'
'no'
'do you know rhonda?'
'no'
'would you like ginger or wasabi?'
'no'

i'm having gay tuna for lunch, just to piss these people off

I'm Mitt Romney and I approved this marriage

More like Shit Romney and he albacored this maki.

four hours and no cunnilingus joke?

beneath these cunning linguists

Richard Socarides: Why Clinton signed DOMA.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2013/03/why-clinton-signed-the-defense-of-marriage-act.html

I look forward to Clinton's apologies for the Telecommunications Act, failing to sign the Kyoto Protocol, etc.

Socarides' piece is basically "Bubba was scared... of BOB DOLE"

There's a certain toe-sucking bounty hunter that helped secure Clinton's election, and he's not mentioned.

that's the weirdest description of Ross Perot I've ever heard

Dick Morris, iirc

i haven't done any proposing iirc but in the aftermath of a very scary car accident my bf & i have decided to have durable power of attorney & health care proxy papers drawn up.

Baby steps

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/15/politics/portman-gay-marriage/index.html

Order66 thinker • 23 minutes ago −

Homosexuality is just as deviant and perverted, now, as it was when Portman was too busy to have a catch with his boy. That has not changed. The laws of nature have not changed. Holding homosexual relationships in the same regard as heterosexual relationships - establishing some twisted and rationalized form of parity - is just as ridiculous as it has ever been. Marriage is and always will be defined as one man and one woman, regardless the extent to which we let or encourage various pretenders play house.

The coward surrendered, plain and simple. Next up is his daughter getting knocked up and Portman joining NARAL as a result.

Brian Brown just trolls comment sections now?

I hate humanity.
I have hope for humanity.
I hate humanity.
I have hope for humanity.
repeat

Well given that there's time to go I AM going to like the increasing frustration of those kinds of folks realizing that they're losing both major parties now, the GOP way more slowly obv. but...

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/03/14/cpac_diary_showdown_on_gay_street.html

(I saw photos from the other panel -- barely anyone there.)

Because what, ultimately, are the straight marriage irredentists going to do anyway -- form a third party? Good luck with that.

Anyway I liked Yglesias on this via Twitter:

Did Rob Portman used to think that gay people didn’t have dads?

Portman's reversal makes him the only Senate Republican to back gay marriage.

rmde

is that actually true, because if so that's ludicrous

Totally true.

(Sadly, obv, but totally true.)

how many of them support interracial marriage

my congresswoman is the only Republican in the House who does.