http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/Ferdinand_de_Saussure.jpg "What makes you Saussure about that?"
― Just got offed, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/disciullo/twiggy/Reilly-Twiggy.jpg "I'm offended"
― remy bean, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.pornobilder-tgp.com/galerien/flotter-dreier-bilder.jpg "Dreier eyes mate"
― Just got offed, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link
surmounter, i think clowning hoos, who is a goofy but generally alright dude & good sport overall, is much better than smugly conspiring with him to decide what ppl you're so much fucking better at life than
-- and what, Tuesday, May 29, 2007 5:44 PM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
again u fail to make sense. making fun of HOOS is NOT better than bitching someone out who uses the word "faggot" lightly. i do consider myself to be so much fucking better at life than someone who shouts faggot in public. and i wasn't conspiring with him. try thinking out your crappy comments, it might help.
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 18:37 (seventeen years ago) link
hey, that's dani woodward!
― Jeb, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 18:38 (seventeen years ago) link
ban Surmounter
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link
castup ur so fucking pretentious you can't even see straight, ban yourself.
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link
+1 bitchiness
― Just got offed, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link
surmounter -t auto /dev/tool/reactionary /mnt/killfile
― remy bean, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link
who are you calling a dev
― Just got offed, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 18:43 (seventeen years ago) link
Who is this guy? WAHT?
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 18:51 (seventeen years ago) link
i sometimes shout faggot in real life, but only in crowded movie theaters.
― remy bean, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link
i'm really tired of arguing. can we like not anymore? what happened to discussing. u know? discussions?
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 18:54 (seventeen years ago) link
i don't think anybody's really arguing!
― remy bean, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link
discus has already been thrown :(
― Just got offed, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link
lol
all i know is my blood's boiling and there's a headache on the horizon, and it's JUST A FUCKING ANECDOTE
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link
I THINK YOUR CAPS LOCK IS ON.
― KANTLIPS, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 18:58 (seventeen years ago) link
no that was the shift key. i never really use the caps lock.
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 18:59 (seventeen years ago) link
This sounds like we need a poll, but ban tuomas first ok?
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link
catsup dude i'm sorry i called you pretentious, that was mean. i hope you don't mind me not including all your p's. maybe we can be friends one day! =P
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link
can you feel the love tonight
― Just got offed, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link
well u know i think after a certain amount of bitchiness it just feels like, where is this going? hell? i'd rather not
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:15 (seventeen years ago) link
can't believe thread's so long already. way to go HOOS!!!!
haha
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link
I want a badge lanyard embroidered with BIG HOOS AKA THE STEENDRIVER
― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:19 (seventeen years ago) link
i know it really is kindof catchy, though long
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link
dude yr still wrong
xpost
― Eppy, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:25 (seventeen years ago) link
Are you lot conversing in machine code?
― Mark G, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:28 (seventeen years ago) link
mista hoobasteena, mista bob hoobasteena
― forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link
i gets much hoos mail and i always resteen
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link
i'll fuckin, i'll fuckin sew your HOOS closed and keep steenin you and steenin you
― ghost rider, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:45 (seventeen years ago) link
HAHAHAHA, thread is WON, lock now plz
― Just got offed, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link
stockholm syndrome, classic or dud?
― dell, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:48 (seventeen years ago) link
b) beyond that, hate crime laws are unnecessary bcz judges & juries already have all the tools they need -- including intelligence & insight -- to determine whether an assault or vandalism or harrassment or murder has that extra tasty frisson of racism or homophobia, and punish it accordingly.
I disagree with this not for GFF's reasons, but just because it's patently false: judges and juries can't mete out extra punishment based on "that extra tasty frisson" unless it's stipulated in the law that they can, that this particular frisson is a legitimate aggravating factor. (If the maximum sentence for a crime is 5 years, judges don't usually have the discretion to hand down 10 based on any outside factor that's not put in their purview by the legislature!)
Posting way, way back to Tracer -- the reason I'm talking about these things in terms of prosecutorial misuse is that the kinds of situations you've outlined here aren't just fuzzy applications, they are (to my mind) completely outside the actual letter of the laws, which would seem to require that identity be the primary motivation for the action: obviously I don't disagree with you in the least that inferring this from any crime in which a racial epithet is uttered is completely fucked up, and such misuse could well outweigh any benefits the laws are designed to have.
― nabisco, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:56 (seventeen years ago) link
open up your door, i walk straight in the HOOS put your man down and put my steen in his mouth
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 20:00 (seventeen years ago) link
This thread is like nabisco and Tracer trying to have a conversation on opposite sides of a room filled with autistic people on horse tranquilizers.
― Lostandfound, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link
sounds better than some parties i've been to
― gff, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 20:59 (seventeen years ago) link
throw in a buffet and i'd crash it for real
― gff, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link
Whose justification do you mean?
It is my lack of legal knowledge justification. I find it pretty effective though! I mean it may be pretty obivious but I think most the knee-jerk against hate-crime legislations can be defused if you get people to sign on for "the system meant to protect us all equally doesn't do so."
― bnw, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 21:07 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.usatoday.com/life/gallery/animal-actors/mr-ed.jpg "Did somebody say horse tranquilizers?"
― remy bean, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link
YOU MAY NOW CONSIDER ME THE HOOSALYPTIC ONE AFTER THIS STEEN THERE IS NONE
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 23:21 (seventeen years ago) link
We need to be able to change screen names again.
― Rock Hardy, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 23:24 (seventeen years ago) link
<I>judges don't usually have the discretion to hand down 10 based on any outside factor that's not put in their purview by the legislature</I>
What I'm about to say couldn't be any more off topic, but in light of some recent decisions by the U.S. Supreme Court, there is some question whether a judge is permitted to increase a sentence for a crime based upon the bias motivation for that crime, unless the motivation was first submitted to the jury and the jury made a finding on that bias motivation.
― J, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 23:48 (seventeen years ago) link
-- gff, Tuesday, May 29, 2007 9:00 PM
lol subtle
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 00:04 (seventeen years ago) link
I LIKE MY HOOS STEEN-ER PINK
― max, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 00:21 (seventeen years ago) link
i wish one of my cats would eat this thread
― PappaWheelie V, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 00:29 (seventeen years ago) link
I mean it may be pretty obivious but I think most the knee-jerk against hate-crime legislations can be defused if you get people to sign on for "the system meant to protect us all equally doesn't do so."
Mostly that just makes me wonder who's going to protect the homophobe's right to be a homophobe. Which, you know, seems like an important thing to protect.
― Casuistry, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 00:39 (seventeen years ago) link
hoosteen = "cute" variation on "Justin," right?
― g®▲đұ, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 00:58 (seventeen years ago) link
It's the Spanish pronounciation (and the name my mother raised me with, though my dad preferred Justin).
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 01:03 (seventeen years ago) link
HOOS = that dude
― Wrinklepaws, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 01:11 (seventeen years ago) link