I was thinking that it wouldn't necessarily contain every number sequence too, but I think that's down to intuitively thinking it temporally like the monkey theory rather than in terms of a proper but not-yet-defined infinite. But for me the real arbitrariness is in implying that ASCII or bitmap code is of some cosmic significance somehow, though maybe if I come up with some decimal language in which the first 100 letters of pi means 'ILX' I will become God or something.
― a similar stunt failed to work with a cow (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
Infinite non-repeating doesn't necessarily equal "every possible number combination" though, does it? I mean you could have an infinite non-repeating decimal that just went like this: 1.121122111222111122221111122222111111222222 etc.
― i've a cozy little flat in what is known as old man hat (Hurting 2), Tuesday, April 2, 2013 3:58 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
iirc irrational are not *just* non-repeating. they have other properties.
but yeah, elmo otm.
― caek, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 15:34 (eleven years ago) link
obvs I mean the first 77 letters of pi. xp
― a similar stunt failed to work with a cow (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 15:37 (eleven years ago) link
ianam but i think a 'normal' number does contain every finite sequence of integers, but it is not known if pi is normal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_number
― riverrun, past Steve and Adam's (ledge), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
god wikipedia maths articles are the worst
― riverrun, past Steve and Adam's (ledge), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 15:39 (eleven years ago) link
woah this thread just took a turn
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 15:39 (eleven years ago) link
yeah well who wants to be a normal number anyway, I like to do random things sometimes
― i've a cozy little flat in what is known as old man hat (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 15:39 (eleven years ago) link
xp rong flip it upside down
actually it is u who is rong because you meant to type 5318008
unless of course you were talking about the "boobless" variant, which was 55378008
― the pheromones of hot clothing (DJP), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 15:41 (eleven years ago) link
5318008 618
― riverrun, past Steve and Adam's (ledge), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 15:41 (eleven years ago) link
there are BOOBIES and there are bOObIES, know what I'm sayin?
― i've a cozy little flat in what is known as old man hat (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 15:43 (eleven years ago) link
its a stoner thought experiment guys i dont think anyone is really taking it that seriously
― zero dark (s1ocki), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 15:50 (eleven years ago) link
i mean, you can maybe get alarmed if the us govt starts passing legislation based on the fact that the last thing you see before you die appears in pi or people start taking pi-based medicine but
omg you're right, shut the thread down guys
― my neighbour Turturro (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 15:53 (eleven years ago) link
turns out Facebook image macros are nbd
― my neighbour Turturro (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 15:54 (eleven years ago) link
ha
― caek, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 15:55 (eleven years ago) link
ANY given string of digits MUST appear in an infinite non-repeating sequence, unless i understand infinity as meaning something different from u guys. since it's non-repeating it continues until every possible string of digits is expressed ie eternity? u just have no access to it. (oh lol i see platonic forms.)
― Mordy, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 15:57 (eleven years ago) link
there are different kinds of infinity, apparently
― pair of fungals prove kiddie pools aren't just for algae anymore (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 15:59 (eleven years ago) link
if anything tho that meme is surely an argument for god not atheism since the atheist only believes in pi as it is observed and the theist believes the infinite shares infinitude w/ the divine.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 15:59 (eleven years ago) link
much in the same way that there's no reason to believe monkeys would eventually type shakespear. They could just wind up typing "kkkkkkkkk" forever.
― i've a cozy little flat in what is known as old man hat (Hurting 2), Tuesday, April 2, 2013 11:05 AM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yah monkeys experiment assumes monkeys would type randomly when really they would all just write the kkk newsletter
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 16:02 (eleven years ago) link
sry joke was alread made
― pair of fungals prove kiddie pools aren't just for algae anymore (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 16:03 (eleven years ago) link
B-)
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 16:04 (eleven years ago) link
mordy you are wrong. as ppl pointed out you can have an infinite nonrepeating sequence that e.g. contains no sevens. there's no proof about what sequences pi does or doesn't have, just that it is irrational, which just means its not the ratio of two integers (i.e. rational).
― s.clover, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 16:06 (eleven years ago) link
exactly it's irrational who knows what the fuck it's going to do next
― pair of fungals prove kiddie pools aren't just for algae anymore (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 16:07 (eleven years ago) link
someday I will explain infinity to you all but not right now
― my god i only have 2 useless beyblade (silby), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 17:32 (eleven years ago) link
cant wait
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 17:33 (eleven years ago) link
it is full of stars sets
― my god i only have 2 useless beyblade (silby), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 17:36 (eleven years ago) link
infinity? it doesn't matter u wouldn't know her anyway, she lives in Canada
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 17:37 (eleven years ago) link
My cousin is a set theorist at Oxford. Should I invite him to ILX for an AMA?
― that Django got me Nuages (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 18:03 (eleven years ago) link
yes!
― my god i only have 2 useless beyblade (silby), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 18:52 (eleven years ago) link
would like to see the set of all facebook Macros that doesn't contain a Bob Marley quote
― Neil S, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 18:57 (eleven years ago) link
does it contain itself?
― s.clover, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 19:04 (eleven years ago) link
-- Bob Marley
― s.clover, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 19:05 (eleven years ago) link
mind blown
― Neil S, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 19:12 (eleven years ago) link
--808 542137
― pair of fungals prove kiddie pools aren't just for algae anymore (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
more like you guys are irrational
― zero dark (s1ocki), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 19:27 (eleven years ago) link
now I am just a number
― ☠ ☃ ☠ (mh), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 19:29 (eleven years ago) link
I, rrational
― mister borges (darraghmac), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
thanks dmac
― I, rrational (mh), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 20:35 (eleven years ago) link
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/32631_173231519498352_1609058548_n.jpg
― Fetchboy, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
buy a better notebook with better paper quality
it looks like lined toilet paper ffs
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 20:45 (eleven years ago) link
that's all that message deserves
― my neighbour Turturro (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 20:46 (eleven years ago) link
lol true
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 20:48 (eleven years ago) link
if you expect the WDRST, the WDRST will happen
― silverfish, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 20:53 (eleven years ago) link
I think that's really good advice to give to someone who is upset about something. Watch:
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, April 2, 2013 8:45 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Don't dwell on the negatives of this message. You are just letting it bother you. Just be happy!
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 20:55 (eleven years ago) link
Don't you feel better now, vg?
wipe your butt with a smile
― Heyman (crüt), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 20:57 (eleven years ago) link
(but don't get arrested)
― Heyman (crüt), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 20:58 (eleven years ago) link
Pi contains all satanic backmasking messages in reverse!
― No, not sinister (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 21:00 (eleven years ago) link
maybe i'll feel better if I stab someone with a multitude of colored pens
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 21:11 (eleven years ago) link
You collapse the wavefunctions in your favor when you smile
― that Django got me Nuages (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 21:12 (eleven years ago) link