The Reason The Movie Camera Was Invented: Michael Bay's "Pain And Gain" (2013)

all i remember about the island was the insane product placement.

uh let's hold our horses on the "bay knows what he's doing" thing, the script is satirical but the execution is certainly not

that doesn't prove that he doesn't know what he's doing; the fact that he at least partly thinks lugo's psychotic fantasy is cool and made a movie about how cool it is, isnt some absurd accident. i dont necessarily think bay the individual is super bright, but as a filmmaker he's extremely canny (more than most directors) about getting the effect he wants. the lack of ironic distance in P&G makes it a lot more interesting than the obvious juxtapositions of eg., Spring Breakers (which i liked)

Bad Boys II is a masterpiece of bad taste, it's his best non-Rock movie

xp but the script seems like it was pretty heavy on ironic distance! i think mostly the v.o., as juxtaposed with the in-scene dialog and glorified mayhem. all the quasi-patriotic self-help stuff, and the fact that the film seems to at least partially approve of it, results in a very weird effect, and if that effect was what bay was going for i'm not sure that was a great decision.

fully expect this movie will have bay's usual dose of racism and misogyny

you will not be disappointed

i enjoyed bad boys ii also but purely for 'gabrielle union hubba hubba' reasons

yeahh this was....not very good

it's almost a satire for abt 20 mins but i dont think bay could really commit to it (not that it wouldve been any good but itd at least be different), too many pandering gags & joeky setups, way too much voiceover filler

the rock really shouldve done the weird shit w/ his fingers calling back southland tales

the lack of ironic distance in P&G makes it a lot more interesting than the obvious juxtapositions of eg., Spring Breakers (which i liked)

― turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, April 29, 2013 3:22 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's very marginally more interesting than spring breakers (which is garbage)

agreed re: voiceover and pandering gags (tho them being such dated gags bothered me more than the pandering aspect), which is why i liked it and didnt love it

The voiceover stuff would have been fine had the movie stuck solely to the Gang's POV - having Ed Harris's private detective chime in breaks the spell somewhat. Gives us too clean a break from the madness.

Seeing the movie and then reading the articles - the stuff that turns out to have been combined or invented turns out to be pretty much exactly what I'd figured it would be based on the fact that this is a Michael Bay movie.

yeah harris' v/o struck me as the most unnecessary, plus his marge gunderson ending was pretty unearned

such dated gags

biggest laugh/reaction in my theater was shaloubs fat roommate in the hospital who shits all over the bathroom stall

tho i guess that is never untimely, is more on the pandering tip

also bothered me that ken jeongs character sez 'hot mess' in 1995

good point, esp. since they seemed to be trying to be real leading edge when it came to lol 90s stuff

im always game for an explosive diarrhea joke. hated the musty & dusty slide projector gag

also bothered me that ken jeongs character sez 'hot mess' in 1995

― johnny crunch, Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:17 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

mackie pumping up one of the guy's hes training by telling him he's kobe beef bugged me. wasnt nobody talkin bout no damn kobe beef in 1995... maybe in the fine dining world they were but not this guy. also, the schlotsky's deli was clearly one of the new rebranded ones, not a vintage 90s schlotsky's. dug the condom billboard though

just read the miami new times series on this story - HOLY SHIT

haha yeah.

On the apparent (I haven't seen it yet) failure or lack of willingness of "Pain & Gain" to reflect upon its basis in reality, and also Spring Breakers. Interesting enough.

http://www.popmatters.com/pm/column/171180-spring-breakers-pain-gain-and-postmodern-folly-at-the-movies/

this was a lot of fun

Just re-watched this (I bought the DVD). The most utterly & perfectly American movie of 2013. The Rock deserves an Oscar.

i laughed my ass off, this was so much better than I thought. Not perfect, and agree upthread there was way too much voiceover and corny bullshit, but basically it's like bodybuilding serial killers star in Bad Boys III. I dunno if Bay was parodying himself because of the 90's setting or that's the only way he knows how to make movies set in Miami but hey, I'm not gonna look a gift horse in the mouth.
Mainly I dug it because this is the role that I've been DYING to see The Rock play. He was hilarious. And Wahlberg plays a good meathead.

i hear eeeenormously homophobic

well it's Michael Bay, who constructed an entire "comedy" scene around Martin Lawrence and Will Smith sounding "gay" in an electronics store.

Actually that could be indicative of what I find so troubling about P&G: The characters would be totally homophobic, so representing them as such isn't a problem. The actual problem is that it's one of the many aspects that Bay seems to really enjoy about them.

http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/6/5281542/watch-michael-bay-melt-down-onstage-at-ces

hahaha

aaaawkward

was hoping he'd say "fuck it we'll do it live"

hit EJECT after 33 minutes, i'm fine with that decision

"this kid's parents took him to Paris, and France"

haha i get it he's stoopit

did u finish it

Streaming on Netflix starting the 10th

Just started watching this, pretty fun.

"You love those big bitches, and they love to eat. It's okay!"

great movie