I could be wrong but Kael was the only critic who consistently held her nose while watching Streep's Oscar nom-affirmed eighties work (A Cry in the Dark the exception). And tbh Roger Ebert fell for most of Streep perfs without thinking twice.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:38 (eleven years ago) link
surprise!
― Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:39 (eleven years ago) link
If Redford has a role as fun as Gregory Peck's in Duel In The Sun I haven't seen it.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:39 (eleven years ago) link
Always liked PK's "radio performance" dis of Streep's Sophie.
what about Redford as Death on The Twilight Zone?
― Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:40 (eleven years ago) link
he was good on twilight zone but yknow not shatner good
― balls, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:41 (eleven years ago) link
Daryl Hannah as performance artist in LE really needs to be seen
― velko, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:41 (eleven years ago) link
what about Hannah as artist below?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knVbfhmME1g
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:41 (eleven years ago) link
Redford's way stiff for my tastes but he's never really hurt or helped a movie that I've seen
― da croupier, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:42 (eleven years ago) link
Was wondering when the Twilight Zone card was gonna get played.
― Blue Yodel No. 9 Dream (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:42 (eleven years ago) link
tbh when I think Eighties Film "Meryl Streep" is the first name to knock me to sleep.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:43 (eleven years ago) link
Kael retired just before Defending Your Life, I think. I wonder if she would have come around some there--I think Streep's really sweet and funny in that.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:44 (eleven years ago) link
I liked her in the Carrie Fisher movie, Postcards From the Edge.
― Blue Yodel No. 9 Dream (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:45 (eleven years ago) link
never got the feeling she thought Streep lacked talent, but that those films were constructed as deadly Great Acting Vehicles for her. And she was right about A Cry in the Dark.
― Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:46 (eleven years ago) link
She left the scenery chewing to the sister of PK's onetime best friend.
― Blue Yodel No. 9 Dream (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:46 (eleven years ago) link
no doubt Streep loved reading how her weaknesses were precisely what made her A Cry in the Dark so effective.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:47 (eleven years ago) link
i have more time for 80s streep than soto and kael but postcards from the edge and esp defending yr life represent a turn for her toward her much better work in adaptation, devil wears prada, etc
― balls, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:47 (eleven years ago) link
this is my fav Twilight Zone performance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY2OE6vBxQM
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:47 (eleven years ago) link
lol is that what prompted this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgOWNQgeAuE
― balls, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:49 (eleven years ago) link
HUGE sneakers fan but man talk about more talented, fun costars.
Totally. One of the few movies I ever saw twice in the theaters, but the thing I remember most about him is how wooden his reading of "you're the one who's going to have to pull the trigger" was at the end.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:49 (eleven years ago) link
hell I loved Streep playing lovelorn pastafazoola The Bridges of Madison County.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:49 (eleven years ago) link
the success of Sneakers coincided with the period in pop music when old people (i.e. fortysomethings) scored top five hits.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:50 (eleven years ago) link
haha im p sure it is balls
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:50 (eleven years ago) link
(just as it crested too)
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:51 (eleven years ago) link
I think Redford suffered from his post 70s work being a lot less interesting than his contemps, like Nicholson, deniro, pacino. Maybe even Hoffman. He's not a dude who has a lot of onscreen fire, pretty slow burn kinda guy.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:52 (eleven years ago) link
I forgot about Spy Games! He wasn't at all bad in that one.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:53 (eleven years ago) link
man, my mom LOVED the electric horseman
and basically anything with robert redford in it
― controversial vegan pregnancy (contenderizer), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:53 (eleven years ago) link
Postcards from the Edge is kinda fun, but has any movie about addiction ever made addiction look LESS horrifying?
― Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:53 (eleven years ago) link
Spy game! I've heard that's kind of awesome.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:53 (eleven years ago) link
well yeah she fucks Dennis Quaid.
xpost
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:54 (eleven years ago) link
He's not a dude who has a lot of onscreen fire, pretty slow burn kinda guy.
like Alain Delon? who gets credit for being French and nonblond.
― Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:55 (eleven years ago) link
Delon is better at though. Although yeah he is both of those things
OMG is that John Williams as Shakespeare in that Burt Reynolds Twilight Zone?
― Blue Yodel No. 9 Dream (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:56 (eleven years ago) link
redford's pretty great in a lot of movies though don't get me wrong.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 01:58 (eleven years ago) link
In retrospect are all those Meryl Streep perhaps really so bad. I mean they are a little more theatrical than one normally expects from screen acting but they are still affecting. You might as well accuse Sir Larry of the same thing.
― Blue Yodel No. 9 Dream (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 02:06 (eleven years ago) link
they're stiff as hell and constricted by notions of what Good Acting looks like. On the other hand, what else was a young actress like Streep to do? These parts are what young actresses auditioned for. I'm sure she bumped into Jessica Lange, Sissy Spacek, and Debra Winger at a lot of auditions, although those three plus Diane Keaton gave more performances during the period that have held up better and I'd watch twice.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 02:25 (eleven years ago) link
Perhaps I should watch a few to confirm my speculation but on second thought maybe not. You've called my bluff.
― Blue Yodel No. 9 Dream (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 02:31 (eleven years ago) link
There was so much hushed 'buzz' about Streep just after her supporting trifecta of Deer Hunter-Manhattan-Seduction of Joe Tynan(!) that I suspect she was first choice for everything she made for the next 5-6 years.
― Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 02:32 (eleven years ago) link
A.O. Scott's article, cited here often, on Streep and the peculiar somnolence of eighties films.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 02:33 (eleven years ago) link
I think the only one of her Great Actress films I saw was Out of Africa, from which I remember absolutely nothing. She's excellent in The Deer Hunter.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 02:34 (eleven years ago) link
and sexy!
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 02:35 (eleven years ago) link
"'80s films" used there as a lazy cliche like "'80s music." I'll take Housekeeping, Cutter's Way and The Replacements over Out of Africa and A Flock of Seagulls, Alex.
― Pope Rusty I (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 02:37 (eleven years ago) link
She's got some funny small-talk that's always trailing off into nothing, and an excellent crying scene as she prices stuff in the supermarket. (xpost)
― clemenza, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 02:37 (eleven years ago) link
Just realized I wasn't counting Kramer as a Great Actress film. She's still in a supporting role there. I think she's quite good in Kramer.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 02:41 (eleven years ago) link
when IS Housekeeping getting a DVD release?
I can understand why critics nestled onto Aldomovar's lap when the Ameri-indie alternative resembled lo-fi respect-o-cinema.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 02:41 (eleven years ago) link
Vastly prefer Housekeeping the film to the book it is based on but think I'm in the minority.
― Blue Yodel No. 9 Dream (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 02:45 (eleven years ago) link
I do too. Gilead is a better novel.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 02:48 (eleven years ago) link
Nowadays “Kramer vs. Kramer” and “A Cry in the Dark” would be scruffy little Sundance movies. “Out of Africa” would be in French. “Silkwood” would be “The Blind Side.”
yup.
― Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 03:03 (eleven years ago) link
I just pulled this thread up a little while ago for an unrelated reason, and hey: The films of Bill Forsyth - C or D/S & D ?
― Sheela-Tubb-Mann, You Real Know-It-All (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 03:33 (eleven years ago) link
my ex and i wanted to open a movie theater/restaurant establishment similar to nitehawk in brooklyn and one of our menu items was going to be the "Pauline Kale salad." this plan never really got off the ground.
― rock 'em sock 'em (Treeship), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 03:49 (eleven years ago) link
ramp it up again haha
― screen scraper (m coleman), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 09:33 (eleven years ago) link
i remain agnostic on kael but ugh @ that esquire article, repellent example of sycophantic interviewer sucking up to celebrity subject
― screen scraper (m coleman), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 09:35 (eleven years ago) link