Crackstarter - Gawker crowdfunding the Rob Ford crack tape: good or evil?

I'm not hellbent on anything, and I'm not bashing it - it just seems like a thin story to me, and one Doug can plausibly deny, as he has. I think he's lying - but they have no named sources and it's 30 years old. It plays right into the Ford's narrative about what Doug calls "uncollaborated" (sic) stories, and a media vendetta. It's also been folklore for a long time - I'd heard the rumours of high school drug dealing as had others here - so it would have been nice if they'd been able to bring something more to it.

Thermo, I'm not sure why I'm pissing you off - it's nothing personal, just shooting the shit about the Ford coverage. We can disagree.

i'm not pissed off here. just disagreeing with pretty much every point you're making.

OK!

man why don't you two hash it out over a rock?

or rock out with some hash

I'm down for whatever, 2nd option more my speed.

speed would be my preference.

let's hit Mimico and see what happens

downtown speed only!

when i saw that everyone was piling up on brio i assumed he had said something stupid but u all are looking like huge idiots rn

hey now, we just chilled things out and were looking for some speed

heh sorry i was still reading the thread when i posted that... ftr i hope you are wrong cause i don't wanna pay dylan 100 bucks

the latest:
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013/05/29/rob_ford_former_staffers_email_telephone_records_ordered_destroyed_sources.html

Officials in the information technology department at the City of Toronto are required to maintain the computers and ensure that information — which is all subject to freedom of information requests — is preserved.

come on, IT guys, leak it all

City of Toronto IT department leaks 50 new videos of Rob Ford falling over and/or running into things

ha ha!

Thermo and brio: don't forget that first and foremost we're all Torontonians, united by our love of crack. Forming a united front is the only way we'll be able to buy and consume lots of the high-quality crack we love.

If all this turns out to be true, Ford should get an award for World's Portliest Crackhead.

Often credits David Crosby, the World's Portliest Cokehead, as an early inspiration.

rip Farley

http://wlschildrens.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/farley.jpg

it's really amazing listening to the radio show. It's really hard to reconcile their personalities on the show with what their private lives are apparently like.

speed would be my preference.

Michael Cooke ‏@TorStarEditor 1h
https://twitter.com/TorStarEditor/status/339945391007096832

#robford #mayorford says he knew where the video was hidden, Star is told. Front page Thursday. http://yfrog.com/gy51fipnj

Hmm, photo itself not coming up.

i don't understand.

was the video hidden? does he mean he knows who had it?

does this mean he previously knew where the video was and who was in possession of it and presently doesn't know?

http://a.yfrog.com/img610/5052/51fipn.jpg

link http://m.thestar.com/?content=29e710fd9cce92141cd7f2c1ef9b0f6d§ion=gta

What does that even mean, "he knows where the tape is?"

Toronto Mayor Rob Ford told senior aides not to worry about a video appearing to show him smoking crack cocaine because he knew where it was, sources told the Star.
Ford then blurted out the address of two 17th-floor units — 1701 and 1703 — at a Dixon Rd. apartment complex, to the shock of staffers at a city hall meeting almost two weeks ago, the sources said.
The mayor cited “our contacts” as the source of his information, according to insiders familiar with the unusual May 17 session in his office.
Staffers were alarmed by the implication of hearing so precise a location, sources said.

Two weeks ago! And it seems Towhey is the only one who went to the cops about this. I sincerely hope the other senior aides in that office never work in politics again.

Second man charged with Anthony Smith shooting arrested in Alberta (where the video holders told the Star they wanted to relocate):

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/toronto/police-identify-man-arrested-in-shooting-tied-to-alleged-rob-ford-drug-video/article12257252/

If I recall correctly, Ford aide David Price supposedly told Towhey that Anthony Smith had been shot for the video.

If this ends up being true, and Smith was shot for the phone by the guys who tried to sell it it puts the Crackstarter thing in a whole new light. I feel kind of shitty about saying the Star should have just ponied up - even if that's not the scenario that went down, it's a good argument for why you don't hand over 200K for news.

I'd like to raise money to shoot a video of Tom Ford smoking crack.

people will probably pay more to see Harrison Ford smoking crack.

henry ford or gtfo imo

would take that footage in any color as long as it's crack

haha

kudos xp

So two more staffers out?

so far, today...

I'm surprised there's been no mention (that I've seen, anyway) of Ford's wife through all of this. I had to look her up: Renata Brejniak, married in 2000, still married. I'm not saying she's implicated in any way, but it's pretty standard for spouses to step forward and tell the world how wonderful her husband is. If Ford draws a line and keeps his wife out of his personal messes, then I guess that's one admirable thing I can attribute to him.

god the idea that rob ford accidentally blurted out the address where the video was being held during a council meeting MAY be the funniest part of this yet

Also the idea that "Don't worry, I know where the video of me smoking crack is" was supposed to be in any way a reassuring statement.

So wait, lemme get this straight--right now it appears as if the people trying to sell the video for $200k first killed someone else w the video so that they could take it and sell it?

if anyone happens to be in the neighborhood maybe they could swing by

xp bcz if so then yeah that is a stellar argument for why paying sources is hugely problematic

It's super unclear if it's true, but that is a scenario that is being floated.

also - I don't the suggestion is that he blurted out the address during a council meeting - but in a meeting with his senior staff

but I wouldn't blame anyone for thinking Ford was capable of blurting out the address of his crack den in council.

I wonder if Towey has a book deal yet? With the inevitable movie or mini-series, could be a goldmine.

This whole thing is getting so weird; here is some neighbour door-knocking:

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/05/30/rob-ford-crack-drama-takes-a-surreal-turn-on-dixon-road/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

ya - he blurted it out in a staff meeting (ie - just the people who have all quit now)... not a council meeting.