that recognition - understanding what i have in my pool of cards and how i can cobble that into something effective - is obviously going to be far harder than the relative hand-holding of the rtr and gtc sealeds. still, i am glad i had a little time to get used to those more forgiving formats, even if i have to unlearn some of my assumptions.
― Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 1 June 2013 05:26 (eleven years ago) link
i don't mind building around cards or interactions in this sealed format but i'm not sure that's right, there are just lots of fun things to do that are fairly powerful. i vastly prefer drafting to sealed in this format tho, so i haven't really been doing much of it
― Lamp, Saturday, 1 June 2013 05:32 (eleven years ago) link
first 5 picks in DGM are two Fluxchargers, two Nivix Cyclopses, and a Turn/Burn, this deck is incredible. btw Nivix Guildmage always seems to go until like the 12th pick in RTR.
I'm starting to think that 2-color strategies are generally best. I tend to go 2-1 a lot with 3 colors because I can never get enough gates and always end up losing one match to missing a color. Most of my 3-0s thus far have been straight Boros or Gruul. Surprisingly both times I think I wound up playing more cards out of RTR than GTC. It's not as risky as I thought...
― frogbs, Saturday, 1 June 2013 16:25 (eleven years ago) link
yeah nivix guildmage is way better now that the format is slower
also particularly good in that deck
― iatee, Saturday, 1 June 2013 16:53 (eleven years ago) link
last night I had a super solid 2 color speed dimir deck and I still lost a match to a noob playing 4c w/ horrible fixing because of bad luck w/ lands. otoh I managed to beat someone else w/ that deck while stuck on 3 lands.
I think 'two colors is a successful strategy' is misleading though - two color decks are going to be 3-0ing a lot because someone who had their two colors open is going to have a v. strong deck regardless, not necessarily because 2 color decks are the better strategy in any given circumstance. sometimes they are. but other times they're not.
― iatee, Saturday, 1 June 2013 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
quick question: which is more effective against UW control in standard, Aetherling in particular, Slaughter Games or Pithing Needle?
― Moodles, Saturday, 1 June 2013 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
burning-tree emissary?
― Lamp, Saturday, 1 June 2013 23:08 (eleven years ago) link
yeah lamp otm, they can beat any or all of those cards but they can't beat fast starts where you out-tempo them by playing free creatures and creatures with haste
― ciderpress, Sunday, 2 June 2013 00:19 (eleven years ago) link
lol this ptq
― Lamp, Sunday, 2 June 2013 19:57 (eleven years ago) link
what about it?
― ciderpress, Sunday, 2 June 2013 20:03 (eleven years ago) link
frozen @ the end of round 7
― Lamp, Sunday, 2 June 2013 20:04 (eleven years ago) link
btw i added you on my main mtgo account not sure what the etiquette is there
― Lamp, Sunday, 2 June 2013 20:05 (eleven years ago) link
I drafted again tonight and had a pretty sunk draft because it took me way too long to figure out I was esper not grixis but I did manage to win a bunch of games with whispering madness and place 3rd (out of 6)
whispering madness...kinda playable?? sometimes.
― iatee, Monday, 3 June 2013 00:55 (eleven years ago) link
more than in gatecrash at least
― iatee, Monday, 3 June 2013 00:57 (eleven years ago) link
standard update: 4-0ed two daily events in a row with this:http://i.imgur.com/VWaaIdo.jpg
i think it's pretty good, though not exactly the pinnacle of innovation
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 02:26 (eleven years ago) link
whats the split card?
― frogbs, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 02:28 (eleven years ago) link
turn // burn presumably?
i tried a rug walkers list that had mostly the same creature base at fnm two weeks ago, went 3-1 but played some p loose opponents. i can't even remember exactly what was in it except i didn't have statiscaster main and had tamiyo.
― Lamp, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 02:33 (eleven years ago) link
how is the caster used?
― iatee, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 02:35 (eleven years ago) link
that was what I was guessing. I like that card a ton and I'm hoping it sees some play
― frogbs, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 02:35 (eleven years ago) link
staticaster is maindeck because there's a ton of lingering souls decks on modo right now, or at least there were last weekend. in matchups where its 'dead' you can still use it to stretch your burn spells an extra point of damage on bigger creatures game 1, or combo it with turn so you can send the burn half elsewhere, or use it with ral zarek to kill 2-toughness creatures
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 03:12 (eleven years ago) link
did you get many ral ultimates?
― iatee, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 03:30 (eleven years ago) link
haha yeah i did the ultimate for the first time today
5 heads
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 04:13 (eleven years ago) link
i'm sort of annoyed with myself for wanting to buy some ral zareks on mtgo now, i wanna try the deck out. i'm assuming it has a p solid junk aristos match-up with statiscaster and bonfire main?
― Lamp, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 04:22 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it should, so far i've mainly played vs aggro and jund though which both go fine. turns out the way to break the jund mirror is to play an aetherling, not too surprising
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 04:54 (eleven years ago) link
i'm in the market for a new modern deck now, with voices pushing 50 tix and thoughtseizes spiking after their absence from modern masters was confirmed, i want to sell high on those and play something without them until they come back down
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 05:01 (eleven years ago) link
i'm still playing u/w/r control which is fine on mtgo but probably not great irl - i like the idea of scapeshift but have never played it so certainly can't recommend it. also there's kibler's deck from gp portland or maybe san diego - the one that eggs won - with knight of the reliquary
― Lamp, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 05:04 (eleven years ago) link
i like the idea of kibler's decks but there's so much combo on mtgo right now that i'm not sure a midrange deck without thoughtseize is playable
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 05:21 (eleven years ago) link
i know i am late to the party here, but boros battleshaper is insane
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 02:25 (eleven years ago) link
I had a foil one tonight in my deck
never got to cast it cause I also had firemane avenger, which also wins the game and comes out 3 turns earlier
but yeah battleshaper just takes over the board. if you're playing a 7 drop you want it be more than just a big creature.
― iatee, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 02:49 (eleven years ago) link
managed to trade my voices and thoughtseizes into two entire modern decks, did not expect that
hopefully voice won't get into JTMS price territory and make me look like a fool but i can't imagine a 2-color card surpassing bonfire or sword of war and peace which both topped out at 50
― ciderpress, Thursday, 6 June 2013 01:44 (eleven years ago) link
does it get played a lot outside of Standard? because that seems to be the deciding factor.
― frogbs, Thursday, 6 June 2013 02:36 (eleven years ago) link
it's been showing up in various pod decks where it seems pretty good - i don't think legacy is particularly welcoming to g/w rn. i have sold mine when they were @ 41 when i sold most of my mtgo stuff and don't particularly regret it
what decks did you buy into cider?
― Lamp, Thursday, 6 June 2013 02:41 (eleven years ago) link
splinter twin and rg tron
twin was basically a freeroll since i was only missing the twins/kikis which are reasonably cheap right now, and i've played the deck to a bit of success in the past. tron isn't great right now and i don't know how to play it well (yet) but it's my favorite modern deck and has the opposite matchups to twin so it seemed like a good complement
― ciderpress, Thursday, 6 June 2013 04:22 (eleven years ago) link
so 3(586) people for providence? that doesn't break charlotte right?
― Lamp, Sunday, 9 June 2013 01:07 (ten years ago) link
magic players not having friends probably played into this
― iatee, Sunday, 9 June 2013 01:09 (ten years ago) link
Yeah it was a lot less people than Charlotte. Did you guys end up going? I ended up having no time to think the past week, forgot to check on this thread.
My team's pool was ass but I think we built it as well as we could. We started with an BWu deck that was quite strong, but after that was a struggle. Every deck we built that used green had a horrible curve so we ended up ditching green altogether. We made UWR to make use of Archon of the Triumvirate and Niv-Mizzet, the remaining bombs we had, and the deck was decent. That left a godawful Rakdos deck, that was slightly improved after we plundered the Orzhov deck for black cards. We went 4-4 with several close matches, and we didn't play the last round so we could eat. After the tournament, we went over the pool again and didn't see any better decks to make.
I still had a blast. If my deck is gonna be lousy, I'd rather be playing alongside friends. The communication aspect was really interesting but it took some time to get the rhythm of when we should ask for help.
― Vinnie, Monday, 10 June 2013 14:32 (ten years ago) link
I almost went w/ a friend but we couldn't coordinate a solid third
― iatee, Monday, 10 June 2013 14:38 (ten years ago) link
the hipster magic store in wburg is doing invasion block draft tonight
kinda want to go but can't justify $25 for drafting sets where I don't know the cards
― iatee, Monday, 10 June 2013 19:38 (ten years ago) link
its a fun draft format - not too different from the DGR drafts of today - but $25 is quite steep when you know you'll likely walk away with less than two bucks worth of cards. those rares have not really held up outside of Vindicate/Deed/Orim's Chant.
― frogbs, Monday, 10 June 2013 19:44 (ten years ago) link
I just won a game on mtgo where the other dude cast armed and dangerous for the win while I had a teysa out - the double strike killed the unblocked creature via teysa before the 2nd strike came. opponent only saw it after he played it, I didn't even realize it until it happened.
― iatee, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 02:26 (ten years ago) link
he was like "oh no...teysa" and I thought he was mocking me
― iatee, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 02:27 (ten years ago) link
both those cards are so sick in limited
― frogbs, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 04:09 (ten years ago) link
I kinda hate 'win out of nowhere' cards
― iatee, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 04:12 (ten years ago) link
looks like travis woo is spreading the gospel of nivix cyclops
― iatee, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 04:13 (ten years ago) link
fluxcharger is the one I seem to get every draft and it's worked wonders for me
speaking of cards that just win out of nowhere, played against a Blood Baron the other day and it dawned on me just how much I hate protection, especially when it's from two colors in a multicolor-oriented format
― frogbs, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 04:24 (ten years ago) link
haha woodlot crawler has been the bane of many of my green decks
― Lamp, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 04:26 (ten years ago) link
little guy is such a pain to deal w/sometimes
yeah if I see that 4-5 pick I force dimir
― iatee, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 04:27 (ten years ago) link
I wonder if they purposely hold back on the protection from cause its one of those things that actually frustrates people
― iatee, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 04:28 (ten years ago) link
gotta get that trait doctoring for max woodlot crawler value :D
― Lamp, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 04:32 (ten years ago) link