no wait i've just remembered Toby Young exists.
tomorrow i'm gonna do a throwdown on the hardcore dirtbags i think, exclude Clarkson so's not to skew it.
― sleepish resistance (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 June 2013 20:57 (ten years ago) link
yeah it's not so much clarkson the man that most decent people rage against, it's the fact he's given a voice to every hateful, low-level racist/sexist bants-chatting, arrogant, greed-riddled, anti-discourse LAD out there. if there wasn't a vocal majority calling this guy out then he'd slide into that avuncular 'national treasure' role with ease, and fuck that
― NI, Thursday, 6 June 2013 21:05 (ten years ago) link
weird to be amused by an deepdown unpleasant man rising to a position of influence in a country though, granny? what's next on the lol list? i hear there's an ilx street fight thread with a vid of a woman being hit in the face, fancy that?
*hit in the face by a man
― NI, Thursday, 6 June 2013 21:06 (ten years ago) link
Kind of feel his power has waned, largely because he's not swimming against the political tide any more. It's tough to maintain the pro-car, anti-pc thing when the government is significantly more right wing than you are.
He seems like a relic of the Blair years, though I can imagine his book will still fund a hundred obscure Penguin Classics this year.
― хуто-хуторянка (ShariVari), Thursday, 6 June 2013 21:18 (ten years ago) link
yeah stevie i'm so wrong to find someone like you who despises him humorless and hypersensitive
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 June 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link
good lord
― conrad, Thursday, 6 June 2013 21:24 (ten years ago) link
Clarkson's brand of obvious button-pushing and tiresome, rote right-wing blether
so obv and tiresome yet it still manages to push your buttons, idgi
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 June 2013 21:56 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3ahWLLmLR8
― conrad, Thursday, 6 June 2013 22:03 (ten years ago) link
i dunno if someone punched me in the face i wouldn't brush it off on account of their tired old take on casual violence.
― Fanois och Alexander (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 6 June 2013 22:08 (ten years ago) link
sorry, I didn't know Clarkson has been punching stevie
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 June 2013 22:16 (ten years ago) link
obvious, tiresome stuff is often the MOST likely thing to push my buttons
― polyphonic, Thursday, 6 June 2013 22:21 (ten years ago) link
It's worth looking at the role Clarkson plays and asking who it actually represents, if anyone.
Saying he represents the motorist or tabloid readers or unilads or people who have barbecues isn't a good answer to this, because all those groups are themselves stereotypes, themselves as fictional as 'Clarkson'.
― cardamon, Friday, 7 June 2013 00:12 (ten years ago) link
yeah i choose not to be insulted by someone who was suckered in by "luna" tbh but keep pretending your sharper than the game yeah?
― waterprick (stevie), Friday, 7 June 2013 05:01 (ten years ago) link
forgot about oops
― conrad, Friday, 7 June 2013 07:02 (ten years ago) link
He's a prick who loves cars and can talk about them entertainingly and write about them very well -- I grew up around these people (except for the writing part) due to my father's work in the automotive industry, thus I can find him funny and loathsome AND be dismayed by UK Lefties getting their panties in a bunch about such a harmless dude.
― Three Word Username, Friday, 7 June 2013 07:49 (ten years ago) link
http://sharetv.org/images/posters/renaissance_man_1994.jpg
― conrad, Friday, 7 June 2013 08:32 (ten years ago) link
This is true if you emphasise the 'cars' part, but I dunno, doesn't he appear more often and to more people as a newspaper columnist/talking head than as a Top Gear presenter?
― cardamon, Friday, 7 June 2013 16:39 (ten years ago) link
... because there are all sort of people who are good at one thing - obviously people in music but also actors, comedians, etc – who you find more or less lovable for that one thing, whilst knowing that you would not vote for them, agree with what they would write if they had a column, or even really want to be in a lift with them or spend any time with them personally.
But they mainly do the one thing they're good at/that you like them for, so yeah, you don't sweat the things you don't or wouldn't like them for. Not that big of an issue.
But with Clarkson, with all these columns and books, surely he's long since branched out from just being an entertaining car guy whose opinion you might value if you were buying a car?
― cardamon, Friday, 7 June 2013 16:44 (ten years ago) link
Most of his books are about cars. Why read the other ones?
― Three Word Username, Friday, 7 June 2013 16:48 (ten years ago) link
Dom-worthy off-topic meta ad-hom itt, n'est pas.
― posters who have figured how how to priv (darraghmac), Friday, 7 June 2013 17:04 (ten years ago) link
no greek pls dmac
― data halls and oate (stevie), Friday, 7 June 2013 21:25 (ten years ago) link
have no practical use for car journalism personally but 'got into' PJ O'Rourke age 17 or so, when (iirc) Clarkson was still basically a motoring journo who peppered his columns with the odd right-wing quip, and from reading the former's writing about test drives etc it seemed immediately apparent to me that the latter was the mere inelegant Britisher knockoff. obv this has kind of atrophied in the 15 years hence but that's still p much how I think of Clarkson
― dimension nickröss (DJ Mencap), Friday, 7 June 2013 22:44 (ten years ago) link
all flippancy aside, the comment i made to oops earlier is possibly the shittiest i've made on ilx, and i apologise unreservedly for it. it was uncalled for, and spiteful, and i regretted it almost the moment i made it.
― data halls and oate (stevie), Saturday, 8 June 2013 05:04 (ten years ago) link
such compassion - would it have been so difficult to say "terrible timing, sorry"?
https://twitter.com/JeremyClarkson/status/448099234290864128/photo/1
@JeremyClarksonThe oxygen masks have deployed. Goodbye everyone. pic.twitter.com/AjqxckFgln
@villaforrent @JeremyClarkson pretty poor timing! Will give you the benefit of doubt that you didn't know about the recent announcement
@JeremyClarkson @villaforrent Right. And you thought it had been flying around for the last 3 weeks?
― two bunny rabbits on mushrooms singing Proclaimers songs (onimo), Monday, 24 March 2014 14:51 (ten years ago) link
all for an all out war between these two
@piersmorgan Utterly shameful > RT @JeremyClarkson The oxygen masks have deployed. Goodbye everyone. pic.twitter.com/IaYEop7UcJ
@JeremyClarkson @piersmorgan If you don't shut up, I shall start to reveal details of your past life that would make you VERY unhappy.
― two bunny rabbits on mushrooms singing Proclaimers songs (onimo), Monday, 24 March 2014 14:53 (ten years ago) link
would be happy if they both disappeared off the face of the earth tbh
― FUCK BINGO LET'S COMPASSION (stevie), Monday, 24 March 2014 14:58 (ten years ago) link
he is a complete and utter berk
― emmeline skankhurst (NickB), Monday, 24 March 2014 15:10 (ten years ago) link
when Piers Morgan is making you look bad, you have a problem
― Angkor Waht (Neil S), Monday, 24 March 2014 16:19 (ten years ago) link
I wonder if this might finish him off
Jeremy Clarkson N-word shame: Top Gear presenter caught on camera using racist rhyme
― Alba, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 23:14 (ten years ago) link
literally no surprise that he's that type of racist who actually uses the n word
i dream of seeing him destitute and publicly humiliated and this gives me so much hope that i might get to one day see it
― lex pretend, Thursday, 1 May 2014 07:39 (ten years ago) link
Clarkson is torn between a Toyota and a Subaru would be an acceptable end
― conrad, Thursday, 1 May 2014 07:48 (ten years ago) link
the sort of ppl who normally bombard the BBC with complaints won't want to be infringing on a man's right to use racial slurs on unaired footage and the sort of ppl who want Clarkson off the air won't want to be seen acting like the former group so I strongly doubt this will blow up enough to come to anything
― From Tha Crouuuch To Da Palacios (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 1 May 2014 08:14 (ten years ago) link
dude just won't eat the magnetic bird seed
― you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 May 2014 08:50 (ten years ago) link
I did not use the n word. Never use it. The Mirror has gone way too far this time. Reply Retweet Favourite MoreRETWEETS6,248FAVOURITES7,700
― pick it up for ripple laser (onimo), Thursday, 1 May 2014 15:43 (ten years ago) link
al and felix from hot chip overhear the tweet alan yentob dealing with this on a flight back from berlinhttps://twitter.com/aldoyletweetshttps://twitter.com/_felixmartin
― nashwan, Thursday, 1 May 2014 15:46 (ten years ago) link
ahaha, nice work boys
― wins, Thursday, 1 May 2014 15:59 (ten years ago) link
Begs forgiveness, did "everything in his power" to avoid using that word he loathes.
http://twitpic.com/e2mc8b
― Alba, Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:27 (ten years ago) link
lols at the partridge-ness of this
― fit and working again, Thursday, 1 May 2014 18:54 (ten years ago) link
can somebody start remixing that vid pleasE?
― you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 1 May 2014 21:29 (ten years ago) link
Top Gear presenter Jeremy Clarkson says the BBC has told him he will be sacked if he makes 'one more offensive remark, anywhere, at any time'.
― DDD, Saturday, 3 May 2014 19:45 (ten years ago) link
Fingers crossed etc
― boxedjoy, Saturday, 3 May 2014 22:13 (ten years ago) link
the bbc are beneath contempt as ever
if this country gave a shit about any of this then they would have let him go after the slope thing even before he fairly clearly enunciated the word nigger, and he can barely enunciate at the best of times through his scarified larynx and blackened serrated little teeth
the plausible deniability of faultlessly insincere and 'knowing' public school bantz and droit de seigneur lets his ilk get away with this shit relentlessly, can remember this sort of playful ethnic dehumanization as a continuous backdrop throughout my formative years
'racism' is understood as the preserve of unhinged provincial ukip councillors and the subliterate plebs on twiter who get prosecuted for it
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Saturday, 3 May 2014 22:53 (ten years ago) link
the thick of it was quite incisive on this sort of distanciation procedure, cf this exchange between the steve hiltonish policy guru and his minister --
We just need a policy flavour, Peter.So, why don't you start thinking about it? Fine.It's just that I have always been consistently way ahead of the party on this.I have always welcomed immigration, the economic benefits.It's JB and his Eton clique who are always texting each other about "dune coons" and "nip in the air".Do you remember him laughing at Frank's party at the one about the Pakistani guy being thrown off the train? Yeah.JB has got some very progressive views.But I think we'll find what he was doing was ironising, Peter.
Fine.It's just that I have always been consistently way ahead of the party on this.I have always welcomed immigration, the economic benefits.It's JB and his Eton clique who are always texting each other about "dune coons" and "nip in the air".Do you remember him laughing at Frank's party at the one about the Pakistani guy being thrown off the train?
Yeah.JB has got some very progressive views.But I think we'll find what he was doing was ironising, Peter.
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Saturday, 3 May 2014 23:08 (ten years ago) link
There are some elements of early TTOI I don't like but that isn't one of them.
― under the cobblestones, le dogshit (xelab), Saturday, 3 May 2014 23:17 (ten years ago) link
I hope Clarkson dies.
― under the cobblestones, le dogshit (xelab), Saturday, 3 May 2014 23:18 (ten years ago) link
The BBC will never let Clarkson go until he outlives his economic usefulness. He's a massive draw internationally and until his behaviour jeopardises that properly, he'll continue to get away with it. Cannot imagine Penguin Random House will drop him either.
― Yuri Bashment (ShariVari), Sunday, 4 May 2014 00:59 (ten years ago) link
that his shit is so lucrative is exactly the reason why firing him might count for something, the right side of history and all that
― Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Sunday, 4 May 2014 01:08 (ten years ago) link
Maybe this stuff will damage him in the US market? Here he will remain a "legend" despite (or maybe because of) what he says.
― Try Leuchars More! (dowd), Sunday, 4 May 2014 02:48 (ten years ago) link
"It's inevitable that one day, someone, somewhere will say that I've offended them, and that will be that."
― kinder, Sunday, 4 May 2014 08:30 (ten years ago) link