i haven't really figured all this out yet but my opinion is that these scandals are awesome!
― goole, Monday, 10 June 2013 15:07 (eleven years ago) link
certainly more beneficial for the public to be thinking about than the benghazi/IRS stuff
― Z S, Monday, 10 June 2013 15:10 (eleven years ago) link
think the guardian has updated to confirm that he did receive his GED
― max, Monday, 10 June 2013 15:10 (eleven years ago) link
it's possible that this one counts and the effect hasn't been seen yet but fwiw scandalmania is completely invisible in obama's approval rating
http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/gallup-daily-obama-job-approval.aspx
― iatee, Monday, 10 June 2013 15:12 (eleven years ago) link
BREAKING
xp
― goole, Monday, 10 June 2013 15:12 (eleven years ago) link
would not be shocked if the general public dgaf about this
― Spectrum, Monday, 10 June 2013 15:12 (eleven years ago) link
yep
― iatee, Monday, 10 June 2013 15:13 (eleven years ago) link
unless it comes out that the white house was spying on kim kardashian or something
Edward Snowden: saving us from the United Stasi of America
Comment is free
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 10 June 2013 15:25 (eleven years ago) link
completely invisible in obama's approval rating
and fuck the general public, they are morons u know
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 June 2013 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
I know you've gone hoarse explaining these subtleties to the great moronic public.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2013 15:43 (eleven years ago) link
Perhaps, it is because I never really lived in an internet free-world (the web arrived when I was 7) but am I the only one who doesn't really care about it? or at least isn't surprised?
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 10 June 2013 15:46 (eleven years ago) link
if Joe/Jane Average actually found fault with O for this, let's all say their #1 solution together: "Let's 'lect a 'Publican." xp
This is not about SURPRISE; abuses become more concrete when one knows the details.
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 June 2013 15:47 (eleven years ago) link
My reaction has been: after "Breaking Bad" and "The Wire" and Tony Scott movies, the federal government considers this spymaster horseshit worth keeping top secret? Only in a land where a million people boast top secret clearance.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2013 15:47 (eleven years ago) link
high quality tv shows like breaking bad and the wire keep the american public up to date on important issues but also keep them blissfully content
― iatee, Monday, 10 June 2013 15:53 (eleven years ago) link
if we want an angry and activist public we need worse tv shows
― iatee, Monday, 10 June 2013 15:54 (eleven years ago) link
worse cable TV shows
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2013 15:54 (eleven years ago) link
This is really no big deal until the first person gets wrongfully accused by the NSA and thrown in the hoosegow. When that happens, call me. 1-800-WATERFACE
― waterface, Monday, 10 June 2013 15:55 (eleven years ago) link
mad men is possibly the biggest threat to democracy since seinfeld
― iatee, Monday, 10 June 2013 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
bcz they lack the imagination to understand how this info could be used against them. the average american thinks they are of no interest to the government, but when you combine this program with a few of the overly broad federal laws already on the books and you have the makings of a turnkey police state.
― Aimless, Monday, 10 June 2013 15:59 (eleven years ago) link
https://chronicle.com/article/Why-Privacy-Matters-Even-if/127461/
TLDR article re why privacy matters even if you have nothing to hide
― curmudgeon, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:04 (eleven years ago) link
What a perv
One can usually think of something that even the most open person would want to hide. As a commenter to my blog post noted, "If you have nothing to hide, then that quite literally means you are willing to let me photograph you naked? And I get full rights to that photograph—so I can show it to your neighbors?"
― waterface, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:06 (eleven years ago) link
"quite literally"
there are lots of alternatives to "the general public dgaf about this"- they don't know about it yet- they don't understand it yet- as was noted, the polling numbers don't reflect a reaction yetthis stuff came out, what, a week ago? it takes time for responses/reactions to build. but it is easier to feel superior to strawmen i guess
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:07 (eleven years ago) link
xposts
I think a lot of people understand how this info could be used against them, it is news after all. The thing is, I have no idea how to escape this, I am facebook and google user so I've pretty much accepted that my data is somewhere I don't really know and could be used against me at any times, since what? 7 years? more? People I know who really care about this stuff uses terms like sheeple and dabble in the dark arts of facebook macros. So I guess it's more about feeling specifically powerless, especially when you live outside of the US, cause we didn't even elect those administrations.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:07 (eleven years ago) link
we can't invite Muslim friends over to watch Breaking Bad episodes anymore
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:08 (eleven years ago) link
right, i guess another option is - they give a fuck about it but don't know what they can do about itwhich includes me
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
the general public already kinda figures that the governement does whatever the fuck it wants. they're good with it.
― scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:11 (eleven years ago) link
for some reason wasn't the case in 1974
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:12 (eleven years ago) link
ie the peak of this country
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
Watergate was the peak of this country? Interesting.
― waterface, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
no sending Shitface off in the copter was
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
that wd be a good name for u btw, free advice
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
it took more than two years after the watergate arrests for nixon to resign
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
Watergate waterface shitface I can't tell the difference anymore
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
Cool
― copter (waterface), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:16 (eleven years ago) link
U a Billy Joel fan bro?
― copter (waterface), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:17 (eleven years ago) link
in january 1973, which was seven months after the watergate arrests, nixon had a 67 percent approval rating
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
now if the government were secretly delaying the arrival of the new Xbox system we might see some angry mobs.
― scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:20 (eleven years ago) link
trenchant
― posters who have figured how to priv (darraghmac), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:21 (eleven years ago) link
ppl do figure this stuff isn't likely to ever affect them, which is correct
or PS 4. which i think we may go for. it plays blu-ray, right? i might consider getting all the president's men on blu-ray.
― scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:21 (eleven years ago) link
yes, this has to be a story (ooooh NARRATIVE) for months to come.
Unfortunately, both parties in lockstep supporting this and national attention span is 83 seconds so u know.
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:22 (eleven years ago) link
i'm always shocked by the amount of people who fall off of turnip trucks on a daily basis. the whole CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS? outrage junkie response. can we believe it? you betcha. kinda figured it was happening all along for decades. is there any reason to believe that any part of the world wide web is off limits to the u.s. govt? or any cell phone. or anything? they can snatch you out of your bed at night, what's a cell phone call? #crustpunx4truth
― scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:25 (eleven years ago) link
goddamn lazy average american unwilling to grumble on a music forum
― da croupier, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:29 (eleven years ago) link
ah yes such an insightful point it needed to be made for a thousandth time
― k3vin k., Monday, 10 June 2013 16:31 (eleven years ago) link
http://d.wapday.com/animation/ccontennt/13165-f/coach_blowing_whistle.gif
― joe bogus (am0n), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:33 (eleven years ago) link
my main reaction is "nothing like a privacy scandal to show how thoroughly entitled white Americans are"
― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
this does actually remind me of when people on my facebook post stories from the news that are like OMG can you believe the cops harrassed this guy because he was BLACK! no way! that is NOT what the police are supposed to do. and i honestly don't know what fucking planet they have come from.
― scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
maybe outrage is just a commodity now. you can buy and sell it on the open market. the perfect capitalist trick.
― scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
Some of the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s warrantless searches through the National Security Agency’s enormous troves of communications data violated the law and the Constitution, according to secret surveillance court rulings partially declassified on Tuesday.
The bureau’s so-called backdoor searches, long regarded by civil libertarians as a government end-run around warrant requirements, were overly broad, the court found. They appear to have affected what a judge on the court called “a large number of individuals, including U.S. persons.” On one day in December 2017 alone, the court found, the FBI conducted 6,800 queries of the NSA databases using Social Security numbers. The government, in secret, conceded that there were “fundamental misunderstandings” among some FBI personnel over the standards necessary for the searches....
As early as March 2018, the FISA Court identified to the government that the FBI was not sufficiently documenting which of its queries were tied to people inside the United States, despite a statutory obligation to do so. Nor were the searches “reasonably designed” to find evidence of crimes or foreign spying.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/secret-court-fbi-warrantless-searches-were-illegal
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link
I'm shocked! Shocked!
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 10 October 2019 19:13 (four years ago) link
anyone read his book yet?
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 10 October 2019 20:14 (four years ago) link
I went control-f'ing for my name to see if I had participated in this thread much. Landed on this post and didn't know what to make of it: omnibus PRISM/NSA/free Edward Snowden/encryption tutorial thread
So I reverse image searched it and here was what Google was able to come up with.
https://i.imgur.com/LWrsVC9.png
Fun indeed, Google.
― ☮ (peace, man), Friday, 11 October 2019 11:30 (four years ago) link
President Trump said on Saturday that he would consider pardoning Edward J. Snowden, the former National Security Agency contractor who faced criminal charges after leaking classified documents about vast government surveillance.“There are many, many people — it seems to be a split decision — many people think that he should be somehow be treated differently and other people think he did very bad things,” Mr. Trump said during a news conference at his golf club in Bedminster, N.J. “I’m going to take a very good look at it.”
“There are many, many people — it seems to be a split decision — many people think that he should be somehow be treated differently and other people think he did very bad things,” Mr. Trump said during a news conference at his golf club in Bedminster, N.J. “I’m going to take a very good look at it.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/15/us/politics/trump-snowden-esper.html
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 17 August 2020 21:52 (three years ago) link
I. Just. Can’t. Congratulations GOP. This is who you are now. https://t.co/CAE98A7qjV— Susan Rice (@AmbassadorRice) August 16, 2020
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 17 August 2020 23:08 (three years ago) link
Who?
― all cats are beautiful (silby), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 06:19 (three years ago) link
https://www.vice.com/en/article/y3g8wb/hacker-got-my-texts-16-dollars-sakari-netnumber
It costs around $16 to steal anyone's SMS account, which can then be used to hijack their other accounts.
― wasdnuos (abanana), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 02:41 (three years ago) link
In utterly non-shocking news:
Edward Snowden swears allegiance to Russia and receives passport, lawyer says
Edward Snowden, a former National Security Agency contractor who leaked information about U.S. surveillance programs, swore an oath of allegiance to Russia and has collected his Russian passport, his lawyer told state media on Friday.“Edward received a Russian passport yesterday and took the oath in accordance with the law,” lawyer Anatoly Kucherena said, according to Russia’s Interfax news agency. “He is, of course, happy, thanking the Russian Federation for the fact that he received citizenship,” he continued. “And most importantly, under the Constitution of Russia, he can no longer be extradited to a foreign state.”
“Edward received a Russian passport yesterday and took the oath in accordance with the law,” lawyer Anatoly Kucherena said, according to Russia’s Interfax news agency. “He is, of course, happy, thanking the Russian Federation for the fact that he received citizenship,” he continued. “And most importantly, under the Constitution of Russia, he can no longer be extradited to a foreign state.”
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 3 December 2022 03:30 (one year ago) link