if we want an angry and activist public we need worse tv shows
― iatee, Monday, 10 June 2013 15:54 (eleven years ago) link
worse cable TV shows
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2013 15:54 (eleven years ago) link
This is really no big deal until the first person gets wrongfully accused by the NSA and thrown in the hoosegow. When that happens, call me. 1-800-WATERFACE
― waterface, Monday, 10 June 2013 15:55 (eleven years ago) link
mad men is possibly the biggest threat to democracy since seinfeld
― iatee, Monday, 10 June 2013 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
would not be shocked if the general public dgaf about this
bcz they lack the imagination to understand how this info could be used against them. the average american thinks they are of no interest to the government, but when you combine this program with a few of the overly broad federal laws already on the books and you have the makings of a turnkey police state.
― Aimless, Monday, 10 June 2013 15:59 (eleven years ago) link
https://chronicle.com/article/Why-Privacy-Matters-Even-if/127461/
TLDR article re why privacy matters even if you have nothing to hide
― curmudgeon, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:04 (eleven years ago) link
What a perv
One can usually think of something that even the most open person would want to hide. As a commenter to my blog post noted, "If you have nothing to hide, then that quite literally means you are willing to let me photograph you naked? And I get full rights to that photograph—so I can show it to your neighbors?"
― waterface, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:06 (eleven years ago) link
"quite literally"
there are lots of alternatives to "the general public dgaf about this"- they don't know about it yet- they don't understand it yet- as was noted, the polling numbers don't reflect a reaction yetthis stuff came out, what, a week ago? it takes time for responses/reactions to build. but it is easier to feel superior to strawmen i guess
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:07 (eleven years ago) link
xposts
I think a lot of people understand how this info could be used against them, it is news after all. The thing is, I have no idea how to escape this, I am facebook and google user so I've pretty much accepted that my data is somewhere I don't really know and could be used against me at any times, since what? 7 years? more? People I know who really care about this stuff uses terms like sheeple and dabble in the dark arts of facebook macros. So I guess it's more about feeling specifically powerless, especially when you live outside of the US, cause we didn't even elect those administrations.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:07 (eleven years ago) link
we can't invite Muslim friends over to watch Breaking Bad episodes anymore
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:08 (eleven years ago) link
right, i guess another option is - they give a fuck about it but don't know what they can do about itwhich includes me
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
the general public already kinda figures that the governement does whatever the fuck it wants. they're good with it.
― scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:11 (eleven years ago) link
for some reason wasn't the case in 1974
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:12 (eleven years ago) link
ie the peak of this country
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
Watergate was the peak of this country? Interesting.
― waterface, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
no sending Shitface off in the copter was
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
that wd be a good name for u btw, free advice
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
it took more than two years after the watergate arrests for nixon to resign
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
Watergate waterface shitface I can't tell the difference anymore
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
Cool
― copter (waterface), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:16 (eleven years ago) link
U a Billy Joel fan bro?
― copter (waterface), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:17 (eleven years ago) link
in january 1973, which was seven months after the watergate arrests, nixon had a 67 percent approval rating
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
now if the government were secretly delaying the arrival of the new Xbox system we might see some angry mobs.
― scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:20 (eleven years ago) link
trenchant
― posters who have figured how to priv (darraghmac), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:21 (eleven years ago) link
ppl do figure this stuff isn't likely to ever affect them, which is correct
or PS 4. which i think we may go for. it plays blu-ray, right? i might consider getting all the president's men on blu-ray.
― scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:21 (eleven years ago) link
yes, this has to be a story (ooooh NARRATIVE) for months to come.
Unfortunately, both parties in lockstep supporting this and national attention span is 83 seconds so u know.
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:22 (eleven years ago) link
i'm always shocked by the amount of people who fall off of turnip trucks on a daily basis. the whole CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS? outrage junkie response. can we believe it? you betcha. kinda figured it was happening all along for decades. is there any reason to believe that any part of the world wide web is off limits to the u.s. govt? or any cell phone. or anything? they can snatch you out of your bed at night, what's a cell phone call? #crustpunx4truth
― scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:25 (eleven years ago) link
goddamn lazy average american unwilling to grumble on a music forum
― da croupier, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:29 (eleven years ago) link
ah yes such an insightful point it needed to be made for a thousandth time
― k3vin k., Monday, 10 June 2013 16:31 (eleven years ago) link
http://d.wapday.com/animation/ccontennt/13165-f/coach_blowing_whistle.gif
― joe bogus (am0n), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:33 (eleven years ago) link
my main reaction is "nothing like a privacy scandal to show how thoroughly entitled white Americans are"
― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Monday, 10 June 2013 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
this does actually remind me of when people on my facebook post stories from the news that are like OMG can you believe the cops harrassed this guy because he was BLACK! no way! that is NOT what the police are supposed to do. and i honestly don't know what fucking planet they have come from.
― scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
maybe outrage is just a commodity now. you can buy and sell it on the open market. the perfect capitalist trick.
― scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:42 (eleven years ago) link
the entitlement of internet users is also baffling.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:45 (eleven years ago) link
― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Monday, June 10, 2013 12:38 PM (3 minutes ago)
http://static4.fjcdn.com/comments/Oh+I+see+you+have+a+repost+there+_922e03588f1f114a55bfd4c3bda95086.jpg
― k3vin k., Monday, 10 June 2013 16:45 (eleven years ago) link
"maybe" its a commodity. sorry, strike that maybe. and the "now" too.
― scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:45 (eleven years ago) link
Fox the US government turned into a porn channel police state so gradually I didn't even notice.
― Aimless, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:50 (eleven years ago) link
― iatee, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:52 (eleven years ago) link
even in that guy's video interview he's like they'll be able to use your past phone conversations against you and make a case even if you did nothing wrong. law enforcement does that every damn day! they don't need your damn cellphone calls! #edangerlives
― scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
even THAT guy lives in la la land and he's the whistler. well, he is 29. what does he know about anything...
― scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2013 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
yes, really, let's feel "entitled" to what the Constitution guarantees us. Jesus Christ you ppl
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 June 2013 17:02 (eleven years ago) link
I do have a renewed appreciation of middle-class cynics being an essential Democratic-voter set after deluded liberals, so thx Snowden.
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 June 2013 17:08 (eleven years ago) link
It's sad. It was a Bill of Rights.
― Aimless, Monday, 10 June 2013 17:08 (eleven years ago) link
this is for you morbz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mCC1wktIZ0
― scott seward, Monday, 10 June 2013 17:10 (eleven years ago) link
also it's funny to be 'confronted' about issues like this by a Brzezinski
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/glenn-greenwald-spars-on-morning-joe-92479.html
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 June 2013 17:13 (eleven years ago) link
lol like guns, amirite
― hashtag sizzler (Phil D.), Monday, 10 June 2013 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
also slaves
― iatee, Monday, 10 June 2013 17:20 (eleven years ago) link
http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/rightofprivacy.htmlhttp://www.usconstitution.net/constfaq_q113.htmlhttp://www.usconstitution.net/constnot.htmlhttp://www.justia.com/constitutional-law/docs/privacy-rights.html
Of the various things that have been found to be covered by the Constitution by the Supreme Court, "who you've been talking to" isn't listed.
However, there is a rebuttal: http://harrybrowne.org/articles/PrivacyRight.htm
― they are either militarists (ugh) or kangaroos (?) (DJP), Monday, 10 June 2013 17:21 (eleven years ago) link