Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), who questioned Alexander about the section, wanted specific figures about what attacks had been averted.
Not yet, responded Alexander. But he vowed to have them soon.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/06/12/live-updates-cybersecurity-hearing/?hpid=z1#liveblog-entry-46364
Soon
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:13 (eleven years ago) link
exaflop is a word that makes me laugh
but otherwise :/
Bamford's book 'The Puzzle Palace' is a great read, of course dated now but a good history of the NSA. I still need to read Shadow Factory.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:16 (eleven years ago) link
Shadow Factory is outstanding. Definitely check it out.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
I will!
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/snowden-wants-people-of-hong-kong-to-decide-my-fate/2013/06/12/a69e94ee-d370-11e2-a73e-826d299ff459_story.html
He added, “I have had many opportunities to flee HK, but I would rather stay and fight the United States government in the courts, because I have faith in Hong Kong’s rule of law.”
suchhhh a paulite
― iatee, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:26 (eleven years ago) link
for $200,000 he can eat a lot of dim sum
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
i don't think i can even bring myself to read that friedman piece. is it as bad as i expect?
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:35 (eleven years ago) link
aw hell be a man!
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:36 (eleven years ago) link
Don't read it. You can still be a man J.D. without reading Lil' Tommy Friedman. Go read something good. Something else. You should never read anything by Tommy F.
― copter (waterface), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:37 (eleven years ago) link
oh god he just quoted fuckin' david simon
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:43 (eleven years ago) link
Someone else is having a ball quoting Simon
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
ppl keep saying they want more 'nuanced' takes on this -- and i agree! -- but i'm afraid that what they mean is stuff like:
So I don’t believe that Edward Snowden, the leaker of all this secret material, is some heroic whistle-blower. No, I believe Snowden is someone who needed a whistle-blower.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:52 (eleven years ago) link
The Three Stooges-- Sully, Friedman, and D. Simon
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:54 (eleven years ago) link
It sounds like his girlfriend Sally Stripper blew his whistle plenty, am I right, guys? ;)
― copter (waterface), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:55 (eleven years ago) link
do we know for sure that it was tears on her keyboard
― iatee, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:55 (eleven years ago) link
A few weeks ago, at a Reuters summit on cybersecurity, Gen. Keith Alexander said, “The great irony is we’re the only ones not spying on the American people.”
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 20:58 (eleven years ago) link
guam is spying on us??
― am0n, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
read that as: gwar is spying on us??
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 21:12 (eleven years ago) link
This is in the first row of results for GISing "gwar spying":
http://184.173.194.236/~worm64/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/gwar_santorum.jpg
I do not know why.
― high inerja (seandalai), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 21:16 (eleven years ago) link
I'm getting to the point where I wish Orwell had never written '1984'. The Right referencing it whenever 'political correctness' was mentioned was bad enough, but now I can't read anything without it being invoked.
― the so-called socialista (dowd), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 21:29 (eleven years ago) link
we should force everyone to call it 'nineteen eighty-four.'
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 21:30 (eleven years ago) link
the gwar on terrorism
― am0n, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 21:30 (eleven years ago) link
the clapper in that link from above:
Clapper’s deceptions don’t stop there. Rambling on in his rationalization to Mitchell, he focused on Wyden’s use of the word “collect,” as in “Did the NSA collect any type of data ... on millions of Americans?” Clapper told Mitchell that he envisioned a vast library of books containing vast amounts of data on every American. “To me,” he said, “collection of U.S. persons’ data would mean taking the book off the shelf and opening it up and reading it.”
that is either insanely idiotic or a total lie
― Z S, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 22:59 (eleven years ago) link
clappertrap
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 23:01 (eleven years ago) link
if you're going to obfuscate, fucking obfuscate
to repeat my favorite and most oft-used phrase: don't piss on me and tell me it's raining
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 23:03 (eleven years ago) link
"either"
― the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 23:17 (eleven years ago) link
this is any selfrespecting tabloid's headline tho
Clapper told Mitchell that he envisioned a vast library of books containing vast amounts of data on every American.
― the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 23:18 (eleven years ago) link
i meant pullquote
how borgesian!
― Z S, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 23:23 (eleven years ago) link
iknorite can't get over vision of him wandering blissfully but officiously through the stacks
― the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 23:34 (eleven years ago) link
"collecting" a book here and there
― the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 23:35 (eleven years ago) link
where IS that copy of Fanny Hill, it's never on the shelves
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 23:39 (eleven years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/50/Terrorist_300.jpg/200px-Terrorist_300.jpg
― the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 23:40 (eleven years ago) link
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmwrz0BwsT1qd9gmo.jpg
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 23:44 (eleven years ago) link
http://image.lyricspond.com/image/d/artist-david-byrne/album-look-into-the-eyeball/cd-cover.jpg
― the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 23:45 (eleven years ago) link
iatee is it tru u went down your local poledancing class & called them all strippers, later telling police, "it's ok i'm a liberal! hilary 2016!!!"?
― time considered as a helix of semi-precious owns (zvookster), Wednesday, 12 June 2013 23:56 (eleven years ago) link
its tru
― iatee, Wednesday, 12 June 2013 23:57 (eleven years ago) link
remember romney said binders full of women and everyone acted like it was somehow funny or notable for some reason, idk it was so long ago they were strange times
― time considered as a helix of semi-precious owns (zvookster), Thursday, 13 June 2013 00:02 (eleven years ago) link
Obama has metadata full of women
― iatee, Thursday, 13 June 2013 00:03 (eleven years ago) link
Clapper told Mitchell that he envisioned a vast library of books containing vast amounts of women.
― the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 13 June 2013 00:05 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/06/snowden-says-nsa-hacked-china/
“We hack network backbones – like huge internet routers, basically – that give us access to the communications of hundreds of thousands of computers without having to hack every single one,” he said.Snowden said he wanted to expose the government’s hacking activity to show “the hypocrisy of the U.S. government when it claims that it does not target civilian infrastructure, unlike its adversaries….Not only does it do so, but it is so afraid of this being known that it is willing to use any means, such as diplomatic intimidation, to prevent this information from becoming public.”
Snowden said he wanted to expose the government’s hacking activity to show “the hypocrisy of the U.S. government when it claims that it does not target civilian infrastructure, unlike its adversaries….Not only does it do so, but it is so afraid of this being known that it is willing to use any means, such as diplomatic intimidation, to prevent this information from becoming public.”
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 13 June 2013 00:53 (eleven years ago) link
pollin pollin pollin
http://www.gallup.com/poll/163043/americans-disapprove-government-surveillance-programs.aspxhttp://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57588748/most-disapprove-of-govt-phone-snooping-of-ordinary-americans/
btw David O Russell has an Abscam (google it) movie coming out this fall, so the '70s are BACK BABY!
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 June 2013
abscam plays a big if backgrounded part in the popular motion picture Donnie Brasco
― time considered as a helix of semi-precious owns (zvookster), Thursday, 13 June 2013 00:54 (eleven years ago) link
"Edward Snowden's online past revealed"
For all you potential whistleblowers here on ilx: this is what will happen if you come forward. I fear for Garu G the whistleblower tbh
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 13 June 2013 01:10 (eleven years ago) link
If the President can kill any citizen with a flying death robot without a trial and people are fine with that....
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 13 June 2013 01:13 (eleven years ago) link
just wait til they find his reddit account
― iatee, Thursday, 13 June 2013 01:22 (eleven years ago) link
THERE IT IS -
http://ath-cdn.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/slideshows-wide/061313Cartoon1_3.jpg
― balls, Thursday, 13 June 2013 03:57 (eleven years ago) link
Snowden's online past looks super fucking mild
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 13 June 2013 04:20 (eleven years ago) link
Totally. Plus that cartoon has the worst drawn t-shirt I've ever seen - thought he was holding a billboard at first.
― the so-called socialista (dowd), Thursday, 13 June 2013 05:28 (eleven years ago) link
“We hack network backbones – like huge internet routers, basically – that give us access to the communications of hundreds of thousands of computers without having to hack every single one,” he said.
Relevant book on the early history of this type of wiretapping
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c5/BMBcover.jpg
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 13 June 2013 05:31 (eleven years ago) link
Sadly paw at my man totem is kinda lolzy
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 13 June 2013 05:52 (eleven years ago) link