Good call, whoever mentioned Joni Mitchell upthread!
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 24 June 2013 04:28 (eleven years ago) link
how did Ted know Don had just "stopped cold" with his boozing?
― piscesx, Monday, 24 June 2013 04:28 (eleven years ago) link
Tivo description was "Don has difficulties."
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 June 2013 04:37 (eleven years ago) link
is Pete *also* going out to California? darn thing moved so fast this week.
― piscesx, Monday, 24 June 2013 04:39 (eleven years ago) link
We rewound when Ted said that. Before he comes in, Don's holding a paper and it's shaking. Then when he points to the bar to offer Ted a drink there's the MOST subtle movement, but they focus on Ted staring at his hand awkwardly.
― dan selzer, Monday, 24 June 2013 04:42 (eleven years ago) link
ah right yeah.
― piscesx, Monday, 24 June 2013 04:44 (eleven years ago) link
can't believe they brought Duck back. man that was cold.
― piscesx, Monday, 24 June 2013 04:51 (eleven years ago) link
They didn't bring Duck back. They used Duck to potentially fill Don's vacancy.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 24 June 2013 04:52 (eleven years ago) link
No one is going to agree with me but this was by far the least interesting, most over the top season. The show has gone from soap opera to super saiyan soap opera. I have lost any semblance of giving a shit about these characters in any way, given that weiner enjoys batting them around like a cat with string. All the jokey "here's what happens in the finale" posts above are virtually indistinguishable from the actual plot. Manolo married Pete's mother then lost her at sea! Don punches a minister, quits drinking and is movin' to California with an aching in his heart! Megan quit her job and then walked out on Don when he predictably fucked her over! Peggy fucked her boss and then recovered from a confusing break up in ten minutes and something something women are making decisions mumble mumble! Joan, Roger and Bob are gonna be a circa 1968 Modern Family and Bob's carving!Pretending that all this has deeper meaning and shows a mind carefully cultivating complex characters just because there's excellent direction, occasionally fun character acting and period clothes/set dressing is beyond me at this point. And when I try to say "fuck it all in" and just enjoy the pure silliness of it all, I get hamstrung by sequences like Pete stroking his child's hair while Trudy looks on stern and lovingly. I don't mind it being nonsense. I don't mind it being weighty. When it does one or the other, I'm cool. But this show has its cake, eats it, wears it on its head and then black grandma steals the cake. I think I'm full.
― i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 June 2013 04:54 (eleven years ago) link
i tell you Harry Crane's had a lousy season.
― piscesx, Monday, 24 June 2013 04:56 (eleven years ago) link
Stan Rizzo got fucked over three ways in this episode.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 24 June 2013 04:58 (eleven years ago) link
At least he got his sandwich (presumably)
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 24 June 2013 05:11 (eleven years ago) link
Maybe I'm a sucker, but this whole episode just did me in in a major way.
― Simon H., Monday, 24 June 2013 05:53 (eleven years ago) link
Forks otm
― Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 24 June 2013 06:20 (eleven years ago) link
Don's total personality turnaround after he stopped drinking -- his move to sincerity, his desire to connect with people instead of just repressing everything -- was abrupt but, in my experience with ex-alcoholics, pretty accurate. Good job, Mad Men.
― Treeship, Monday, 24 June 2013 06:25 (eleven years ago) link
I understand the inclination to give up on a series before its final season, because I certainly did that with House, M.D. Mad Men hasn't fallen off like House did, though. Some? Yes. Off a cliff? No way.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 24 June 2013 06:46 (eleven years ago) link
i watched the shit out of house, and even watched all of the depressing last season - but that wasn't enough to push me all the way to watching the finale
― j., Monday, 24 June 2013 06:52 (eleven years ago) link
lol. i used to love house but i stopped watching after chase murdered the african dictator.
― Treeship, Monday, 24 June 2013 07:20 (eleven years ago) link
i was oddly satisfied with the partners giving don "some time off." now he's basically on par with freddy rumsen.
― paula deezen (get bent), Monday, 24 June 2013 07:22 (eleven years ago) link
pete's mom/manolo story is enjoyably batshit
yes! so well backgrounded too; that and the burglary scene lent such a feeling of creeping terror to this season in an odd and yet very specific way. both really felt like nightmares, plausible but weighted and inescapable.
also loved the extravagance of both pete's parents dying in spectacular international transportation accidents.
― discreet, Monday, 24 June 2013 08:36 (eleven years ago) link
is Pete *also* going out to California? darn thing moved so fast this week.― piscesx, Sunday, June 23, 2013 11:39 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― piscesx, Sunday, June 23, 2013 11:39 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Pete would be Ted's accounts guy in California, no? All in context. If they bring Stan along, they'd be the three amigos of Peggy's failed suitors.
Kind of wondering if this is the Tusk of seasons, what with all the odd pacing, sprawl and general lunacy.
― Mr. Mojo Readin' (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 24 June 2013 08:52 (eleven years ago) link
Pretending that all this has deeper meaning and shows a mind carefully cultivating complex characters just because there's excellent direction, occasionally fun character acting and period clothes/set dressing is beyond me at this point.
haha this is the most bizarre criticism possible of this show at this point.
also at least three of the examples that you give don't actually happen in this episode
― discreet, Monday, 24 June 2013 08:55 (eleven years ago) link
Thanksgiving backdrop gave it a weird treacley "tonight on a very special Christmas episode of Mad Men. Don stops drinking! Ted takes his family to the vahalla of California" vibe. Judy Collins' Joni cover symbolic I suppose.
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 24 June 2013 09:36 (eleven years ago) link
No one is going to agree with me but this was by far the least interesting, most over the top season.
Nah -- I agree.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 June 2013 11:23 (eleven years ago) link
For a show that depends on infidelity for plot lines, the move away from that during the finale was kind of surprising.
― More Than a Century With the Polaris Emblem (calstars), Monday, 24 June 2013 12:13 (eleven years ago) link
had its moments, but yeah this season was not great
― johnny crunch, Monday, 24 June 2013 12:42 (eleven years ago) link
Nope it wasn't.
Definitely my least favourite. My least favourite series moment to-date was the last four eps of Season 1 (Don's Vietnam experience explained and Peggy didn't even know she was pregnant!)
― align="justify" font="ancient" (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 24 June 2013 14:25 (eleven years ago) link
I knew Draper was talented but it takes some real time-traveling powers for him to explain his Vietnam experience in '60
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 24 June 2013 14:26 (eleven years ago) link
The Ugly Ad Man
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 June 2013 14:29 (eleven years ago) link
I disliked Season 2 a lot more
― copter (waterface), Monday, 24 June 2013 14:32 (eleven years ago) link
Feel like lots of exciting things happened this season. It felt chaotic, but I think that was intentional.
clothes are going to get really fucking ugly next season. is it the last one?
― akm, Monday, 24 June 2013 14:40 (eleven years ago) link
I liked this season pretty well. I had sort of tuned out the last two, only watched bits and pieces of them. (Granted this was as much due to life circumstances as the quality of the show, I didn't watch TV much at all for a few years.)There was enough in this one to keep me interested, though I agree with pretty much everyone that there was too much Don and not enough everybody else.
Peggy and Stan just need to hook up already and get busy making the next generation of hipsters.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 24 June 2013 14:43 (eleven years ago) link
xp lol whoops
― align="justify" font="ancient" (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 24 June 2013 14:43 (eleven years ago) link
Good and bad things about this season
+ Sally's new attitude+ My favourite regular characters Joan, Bert and Roger+ everything Chevy+ Harry Crane+ Bob Benson+ The neighbour-doctor- The neighbour-doctor's wife, bad plots for Linda Cardellini :(- Pete's mom and Manolo- Betty and Don getting back together for sentimentality's sake- Megan becoming 2D- Peggy becoming 2D- Don's whorehouse flashbacks- Ted and co.
― align="justify" font="ancient" (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 24 June 2013 14:45 (eleven years ago) link
Oh the subplot about Peggy and her boyfriend moving to the upper west side (?, did I get that right?) was really painful imo
― align="justify" font="ancient" (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 24 June 2013 14:47 (eleven years ago) link
Don and Betty having sex was pretty lame. And comes out of nowhere.
― copter (waterface), Monday, 24 June 2013 15:02 (eleven years ago) link
pretty sure we know where he came out of
― Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 24 June 2013 15:04 (eleven years ago) link
I did like Megan's line last night about "you can just stay here with your booze and your ex-wife and your screwed-up kids" -- pretty otm.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 24 June 2013 15:04 (eleven years ago) link
yeah that was a good dig
― Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Monday, 24 June 2013 15:05 (eleven years ago) link
i just loved how all of Don meeting's this season have become progressively more and more facepalm. the Hershey meeting the pinnacle of watching through splayed fingers
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 24 June 2013 15:44 (eleven years ago) link
well he did save baby tylenol in the last ep but yeah between Hershey and the GM meeting he's totally been, how you say, shitting the bed
― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 24 June 2013 15:45 (eleven years ago) link
sickest season yet -- h8rs gon h8
― 69, Monday, 24 June 2013 15:45 (eleven years ago) link
Also Bob was str8 fire, setting up Pete in camaro. Every moment of that was gold.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 24 June 2013 15:46 (eleven years ago) link
*the camaro
The Hershey meeting was the inverse of the Kodak slide projector pitch in season 1. In both cases he trots out this fantasy version of his own life to sell the thing, but this time he just can't do it anymore.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 24 June 2013 15:48 (eleven years ago) link
'80s Don Draper
There Peggy. We put a bow on Pacman. Happy?
― the Spanish Porky's (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 24 June 2013 15:48 (eleven years ago) link
It was just pointed out to me (I didn't pick up on it last night) that Sally had changed her last name. I dunno if she just did it, or if Henry has adopted the kids. I would think I full adoption would've played into the series, though.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 24 June 2013 15:53 (eleven years ago) link
And yeah, you have to think this is intentional.
http://24.media.tumblr.com/b25e8216561ca7712a9d128ffbafbd58/tumblr_mowc6jEmd41qz8vumo1_500.pnghttp://25.media.tumblr.com/daf9be53d63732369e6e309c3ad20d01/tumblr_mowc6jEmd41qz8vumo2_500.jpg
I've been saying for how many years now that I'd suspected the show would eventually focus on Peggy rather than Don, and transition of a woman into the pivotal character on a show called Mad Men. I thought that would've happened sooner, and it still may not even happen at all, but I'm glad Weiner threw me this bone.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 24 June 2013 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
I think it kinda silly to think that Pete would work so hard to get Chevy and think he'd be able to fake his way out of not even knowing how to drive a car.
― dan selzer, Monday, 24 June 2013 15:57 (eleven years ago) link