The Apprentice UK 2013

"you are a parasite this interview is terminated" is next level brutality from that one guy

fucking love the interview show, really really hope this is the point where hairy sociopath neil clough comes unstuck like that one absolute cock from about 4 yrs back who sailed through to this show then got disembowelled

also, tv box guide thing says tonight's episode was 10/14, there's the 'final 5' show which is 11/14, next week's interview ep which is 12/14 - where it goes down to final 2 - then the final which is 14/14. what's 13/14? is it just another zzz 'more about the two finalists' show?

The Jordan thing is just weird - his model is actually kind of transparent in that he's got a friend who does a bit of Android/Apple coding and the two of them have come up with the idea of selling out his skills to turn people's games ideas into actual games for cash. By extension he would also offer this to companies to develop apps for them. The bit he doesn't seem to get is that AlSug doesn't care if he's the frontman for a consortium, that consortium will still only get 50% of the new company between them. I would have fired him purely on the basis he failed to understand such a simple business proposition tbh. It's not exactly an empty marketplace either, added to which I'm really unclear who his target audience is. People who want to play a game on a mobile device that they've invented but can't be arsed learning how to write it? I'd guess the Venn diagram of 'people who play games on mobile devices', 'people who have translatable new game ideas' and 'people who aren't prepared to learn how to do something which could lead to $$$' is a pretty small intersection.

Talking about previous winners, I looked up Ricky Martin's "recruitment for science" company. It's a pretty broad brush definition of science as it's mainly in the pharma/biotech sector and covers any job in that sector so has warehouse managers, assembly line workers etc... about half of the roughly 100 jobs he has are <£25k so it isn't exactly the raging success he implied it was, certainly not to the stage he needs more staff.

you're saying that like writing android games is easy. would easily take someone who already codes 6 months to learn the android ins and outs.

I don't mean to imply it's easy, what I think I'm trying to say is that anyone who's got to the point of thinking of making a game of their idea and is prepared to pay to see that as a reality is a) pretty likely to have tried to learn Android coding themselves or b) not the hobbyist Jordan suggested was his prime customer and/or c) will probably have looked into it already and either done it or been scared by the prices (which might have pushed them back to a).

I was thinking about this today, and it seems to me that Ricky is The Apprentice's equivalent of X Factor's Leona - someone who basically had it together but needed a bit of a push. Ricky became a lot more polished and confident as last year's series rolled on. This year, there's no-one like that, everyone seems to be Leon Jackson. Especially Jordan.

It cracked me up that all three blokes are/were proposing a 'revolutionary' online platform. What is this, 2003? Miles looked like he was trying to reinvent Achica and Neil admitted that he'd be going into direct competition with someone very successful.

Jordan clearly doesn't win, because he's still selling his services on his website and is doing some game development because it's his 'passion'. Also tarting himself about as a motivational speaker and an expert CEO.

I believe the winner is announced closer to transmission time, and they film each finallist getting the "You're Hired" speech ..

"you are a parasite this interview is terminated" is next level brutality from that one guy

Really hope this is something along the lines of "Jordan you are a parasite for basically trying to hire out your programmer mate(s) while you take a cut of the money for doing sod all."

I thought Stella said in her employment tribunal that she had had to work effectively without pay for 6 months as she'd been expected to start after winning but didn't 'start' until broadcast? (I suppose it might have changed as a result of that case, but we're two weeks from transmission so the winner will be known. OTOH contracting all the finalists to do something for you knowing that one will have to default on the contract might be a decent short-term business model if you can agree good enough compensation...)

Since we do it every year, let's look round the finalists' websites.

Jordan - done, although it does reveal that he's got quite a high opinion of himself as an Android/iOS coder making me wonder whether he was actually going to be his own silent partner and try to blag a bigger share.

Luisa's cupcake business has a dreadful Innocent Smoothies tone and was last updated in 2011 when she stripped off for a charity calendar. They have an up to date twitter than only mentions her as "founder", not owner. Hmm.

Neil's business idea certainly isn't going to be a beard grooming salon.

He said what it was but I can't remember... was it estate agency?

Online estate agency? Like, hello, is this 1999?

The thing is, I don't think he has any experience as an estate agent, so not only is his plan laughably behind the times, he probably wouldn't be able to make it work anyway.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhrrrrggggggghhh!!!
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Luisa's other two business btw are an online cupcake tat reseller (food colouring, cupcake papers, baking tins etc) that she co-owns with someone she shares a surname with (was she married when she had the kid? If so, it might be co-owned by her ex-husband; if not then it's co-owned by her dad or a brother/other relative) and a 'cupcake academy' that teaches icing and things but crucially didn't launch until December 2012 so maybe implies she didn't make it. If she was using the series as free advertising then she'd surely make it easier to find as it doesn't come close to flagging up on any obvious google hits.

Leah set up a cosmetic surgery company in Londonderry in Feb 2013 and has acquired a building to expand into in Q3 2013 so I think we can rule her out too. (Guessing that's her business proposal, so it may well be her that gets called a parasite)

Francesa has a personal website under construction that's due to go live in 10 hours. She's still listed as principle choreographer at a dance company. Did we know she choreographed the iLiKETRAiNS video for "The Christmas Tree Ship"? Now we do. She still owns a look-a-like agency.

Rebecca's business plan was online sales of moissanite jewellery as a cheap alternative to diamonds.

neilclough.net is a horrible framed website which has next to no detail on it and doesn't seem to sell anything except his time as a motivational speaker. On the basis of his web presence, he's the winner (as Francesca's website launch isn't timed to coincide with the finale).

"you are a parasite this interview is terminated" is next level brutality from that one guy

Really hope this is something along the lines of "Jordan you are a parasite for basically trying to hire out your programmer mate(s) while you take a cut of the money for doing sod all."

― Meine Damen und Herren, ein grosse sh*tstorm! (snoball), Thursday, 4 July 2013 10:02 (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

In fact, more than *hope*, I'd say that's the only scenario where that comment would be 'acceptable'...

Someone on Digital Spy has turned up that Luisa's companies have a net worth of £194, according to her directorship notes in the parent company. And yes, her husband (who she apparently still lives with despite the alleged 6 month thing with Jordan and the pimp boyfriend from the press) is co-owner. He's dissolved three companies over the past couple of years, over £1M in the hole in each of them.

Yes, but that form of parasitism is part of the definition of modern (and ancient) business methodologies and prenciples.

Principles, even.

some excellent sleuthing going on in this thread

had to lol at neil clough's 'about' page:

I now have over 15 years experience in business working for different companies predominately in the leisure industry.

ultimate in cv-padding nothingyness, basically saying he didn't have work at all until he was 17, and 'in business' could mean 'local video shop'. his whole blurb reads how he speaks too, that tinfoil-chewing pleading neediness combined with unpleasant aggression that so many pricks thrive on

also odd how luisa is meant to have had a fling with jordan but shows little to no interest in him in the show, but is constantly on hyperflirt with neil

I really really hate Neil and his stupid fucking neckbeard. Twerps like Jordan are ten-a-penny in my work, and he'd probably do alright under the old format where he could work for Sugar pushing other chumps around. I'm basically now warming to Francesca purely because she hasn't really done anything to annoy me yet.

Francesca would normally be ahead, yes, except for one thing:

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Yes, that hasn't gone unnoticed in our house.

IDGI?

She looks like Stella who won it a couple of years ago, who is not Lord Sugar's favourite ex-employee.

This is fairly interesting, I suppose. In January, Neckbeard registered a company called Oh My Pow.

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So, he doesn't win, and decides that his online estate agency is a shit idea but maybe the ready meal from the task is worth a shot?

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just watching this now. why oh why send jordan out shopping AGAIN when he took 4 hours and came back with £50 candles the first time?

(so you can shaft him in the boardroom obv)

Isn't Jordan's plan just (an aspect of) what a normal digital agency does?

just watching this now. why oh why send jordan out shopping AGAIN when he took 4 hours and came back with £50 candles the first time?

Was I the only person who went "Podgy the Bear and Jasper...."

(he forgot the matches. And the buns)

I am so glad someone screengrabbed this, as tiny wee Jordan just standing on the end looking tiny is the greatest thing ever. Do we think he has a booster seat in the boardroom?

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Was Jordan coughing or gagging in the boardroom this week? I just can't decide.

I got the feeling he was trying to disguise the fact that he was starting to cry.

"you are a parasite this interview is terminated" is next level brutality from that one guy
Really hope this is something along the lines of "Jordan you are a parasite for basically trying to hire out your programmer mate(s) while you take a cut of the money for doing sod all."

― Meine Damen und Herren, ein grosse sh*tstorm! (snoball), Thursday, 4 July 2013 10:02 (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

In fact, more than *hope*, I'd say that's the only scenario where that comment would be 'acceptable'...

― Mark G, Thursday, July 4, 2013 11:53 AM (6 days ago)

KA-BOOM!

I've been buying dill this week and I keep giggling to myself thinking 'are you hungry for this dill?'

Jordan still full of shit and unrepentant on YF.

Yeah, Jordan is an awful person. No real surprises there, other than Francesca being stupid enough to make shit up on her business proposal. I genuinely can't call it now.

Also, YF has turned into "who can wedge themself furthest up Neil's arse".

Well, obviously after the interviews it was clear the girls were the three choices.

I did call the doctor surgery as the finalists, did think the cupcakes might not make it through, only would dance studios be the one to take the place?

Just catching up with YF right now, but why is self-belief such a wonderful thing in this process? What happens when you are wrong? Carry on anyway?

Neil was so bizarre. Something he'd supposedly researched for a year yet couldn't present any actual fact or reason or argument as to why everyone was wrong, just that 'i believe i'm right'. Like a little kid or something. I can't imagine actually being in a conversation with someone doing that?

it was his self-belief, unwillingness to abandon a bad idea that got him fired. that said, if he had trashed something he'd been working on for a year for another idea, i can't see that going down well either.

Its called having a contingency plan. Some people call it Plan B, some other laugh and reach for a CD album..