Also his muscles are way too small for the type of dude he's supposed to be.
― PJ. Turquoise dealer. Chatroulette addict. Andersonville. (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 15:19 (ten years ago) link
her character doesn't have an italian name, fwiw, and the movie is actually about the effects of porn on sexual relationships which seems relevanto to 2010s, imo
― mizzell, Wednesday, 24 July 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link
you would be a terrible homosexual
xp
― playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link
If you hire Tony Danza, wouldn't you want Katherine Helmond too? Or is she dead?
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link
SJ doesn't seem like a person in that trailer, she just seems like a collection of mannerisms.
― PJ. Turquoise dealer. Chatroulette addict. Andersonville. (Hurting 2)
when hasn't she?
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 15:22 (ten years ago) link
Ghost World?
― playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 15:24 (ten years ago) link
a ghost all right
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 15:24 (ten years ago) link
hurting are you arguing that these character types DON'T exist? or that these characters DO exist but the trailer gets them wrong?
― ⚓ (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 15:26 (ten years ago) link
Sure they exist, but they usually have personalities.
― PJ. Turquoise dealer. Chatroulette addict. Andersonville. (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link
perhaps some will emerge in the other 98 minutes of the film
― playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 15:31 (ten years ago) link
*watches 2 minute trailer* THIS IS GARBAGE, WHERE IS THE CHARACTER DEPTH
― ⚓ (elmo argonaut), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 15:32 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYiz9AoSpNA
― PJ. Turquoise dealer. Chatroulette addict. Andersonville. (Hurting 2), Thursday, 25 July 2013 19:29 (ten years ago) link
saw the preview for this in the theater, looks weird in a terrible way, also i feel like scarjo has already done the trashy jersey girl thing, maybe just on SNL?
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 25 July 2013 19:41 (ten years ago) link
also it was totally unclear when this is supposed to take place - it seems like early '90s ("good vibrations" etc) but also he's looking at internet porn
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 25 July 2013 19:42 (ten years ago) link
I think the idea of a movie about a guy trying to give up porn for a girl is not a totally terrible idea, but sounds more like something that a Judd Apatow movie should cover.
― PJ. Turquoise dealer. Chatroulette addict. Andersonville. (Hurting 2), Thursday, 25 July 2013 19:44 (ten years ago) link
who should've been cast as Anthony Weiner?
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 July 2013 19:45 (ten years ago) link
also surely there are gu*dos who are 5'6"?
― playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 25 July 2013 19:48 (ten years ago) link
I thought they all were!
― Boven is het stil (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 July 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link
I think he means JGL should look like he's eaten every steroid in the world
― My Buddy® of sexting (DJP), Thursday, 25 July 2013 19:52 (ten years ago) link
yeah I thought his arms looked small for a supposed jersey guido gym rat. Do you even lift bro?
― PJ. Turquoise dealer. Chatroulette addict. Andersonville. (Hurting 2), Thursday, 25 July 2013 19:54 (ten years ago) link
Agreed. He needs to actually have pushed it to the point of looking bad, and he stopped shy of that.
― Boven is het stil (Eric H.), Thursday, 25 July 2013 19:57 (ten years ago) link
Probably not willing to sacrifice his gonadal health on the altar of his directorial debut.
― playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 25 July 2013 20:02 (ten years ago) link
also, he looks like he lifts, bro.
― playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 25 July 2013 20:05 (ten years ago) link
hurting otm
― IIIrd Datekeeper (contenderizer), Thursday, 25 July 2013 20:34 (ten years ago) link
singing at the stop light scene sold me on this tbh
― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 25 July 2013 23:54 (ten years ago) link
seems like a pale imitation of the wilson phillips singalong in harold and kumar
― PJ. Turquoise dealer. Chatroulette addict. Andersonville. (Hurting 2), Friday, 26 July 2013 04:15 (ten years ago) link
God this looks terrible, how did 2 such reputable names get involved in a film who's premise could have been an 'Everybody Loves Raymond' episode circa 2004?
Also is ScarJo really that bad of an actress?
― All kinds of heinous things, Friday, 26 July 2013 05:44 (ten years ago) link
what are the 2 reputable names
― ty based gay dead computer god (zachlyon), Friday, 26 July 2013 06:09 (ten years ago) link
is one of them tony danza
oh god do you mean joseph gordon-levitt
― ty based gay dead computer god (zachlyon), Friday, 26 July 2013 06:10 (ten years ago) link
a pale imitation of the wilson phillips singalong in harold and kumar
except no one with a life remembers that or what Wilson Phillips sounded like.
― playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 July 2013 06:44 (ten years ago) link
People who saw Bridesmaids do!
― Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 26 July 2013 06:50 (ten years ago) link
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lol i had the same thought process
― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 26 July 2013 06:52 (ten years ago) link
needs to do bro "comedies" to raise ILEsteem
― playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 July 2013 14:48 (ten years ago) link
already did brohttp://i.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/new-50-50-post-released__oPt.jpg
― Number None, Friday, 26 July 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link
50/50 was very good. this doesn't look nearly as good
― akm, Friday, 26 July 2013 15:01 (ten years ago) link
waiting for the third-act twist to be that she's pregnant and after the credits the kid pops out, already rockin the wifebeater and yelling "booooooashk!!"
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 26 July 2013 15:13 (ten years ago) link
I wouldn't assume we know what this film is "about," given that Julianne Moore is barely in the trailer because Too Old to Sell.
― playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 July 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link
i love when people who have been fabulously wealthy movie/tv stars literally their entire lives attempt to approximate what it's like to be "working class." like somehow when they do these really cartoonish accents and say dumb things (BECAUSE THEY'RE POOR) it's supposed to be funny and not disgusting. and meanwhile trying to ironically equate the falseness of romcoms with the falseness of porn while somehow being totally unaware of the irony of trying to present this in the framework of a totally false movie.
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 26 July 2013 15:30 (ten years ago) link
serious, serious!
― playwright Greg Marlowe, secretly in love with Mary (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 July 2013 15:31 (ten years ago) link
The way the mom is written/directed looks particularly egregious too "WHATSEH NAME WHATSEH NAME!"
― PJ. Turquoise dealer. Chatroulette addict. Andersonville. (Hurting 2), Friday, 26 July 2013 15:36 (ten years ago) link
Julianne Moore has to be the therapist, right? Working class people otherwise played for laughs always find redemption through the upper middle class pursuit of therapy in these fantasies.
― PJ. Turquoise dealer. Chatroulette addict. Andersonville. (Hurting 2), Friday, 26 July 2013 15:39 (ten years ago) link
I'm guessing it's related to the "porn addiction" or w/e.
― PJ. Turquoise dealer. Chatroulette addict. Andersonville. (Hurting 2), Friday, 26 July 2013 15:40 (ten years ago) link
Which really kind of fits in with a larger theory of the sub-genre that's kind of coming to me. Working class people are loveable primitives lacking in full self-awareness, but therapy offers them a pathway to bourgeois enlightenment and self-understanding. Thus the audience can feel superior and charitable at the same time for having affection for these doltish characters and wanting them to better themselves.
― PJ. Turquoise dealer. Chatroulette addict. Andersonville. (Hurting 2), Friday, 26 July 2013 15:44 (ten years ago) link
wanting *them* to better themselves.
why is he out in the park waslking with his therapist? I can only hope he fucks her too.
is this like the comedy version of Shame?
― akm, Friday, 26 July 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link
bah ok looks like she's not the therapist, just a wise older woman who helps him understand women
― PJ. Turquoise dealer. Chatroulette addict. Andersonville. (Hurting 2), Friday, 26 July 2013 15:48 (ten years ago) link
it's like he watched silver linings playbook and was like how can i make this even more boring and dumb? there should be a mash-up sequel where tony danza and robert deniro sit on a couch together wearing wifebeaters, eating pasta, and watching football on tv for two hours.
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 26 July 2013 15:49 (ten years ago) link
akm, asking the right questions!
― antoine fuckwant (goole), Friday, 26 July 2013 15:50 (ten years ago) link
i mean most movies are dumb and offensive so really the main problem here is how boring it looks
― congratulations (n/a), Friday, 26 July 2013 15:50 (ten years ago) link
feel like i did though :(
― flopson, Sunday, 12 January 2014 02:07 (ten years ago) link
saw this and thought it was dumb and manipulative. pretty sure meatheads like Levitt's character don't suddenly stop objectifying women simply because they screw an older lady in night class.
― Darin, Sunday, 12 January 2014 18:11 (ten years ago) link
whoa man why dont u walk in his shoes for a while
― Hungry4Ass, Sunday, 12 January 2014 18:37 (ten years ago) link
no, i haven't yet seen it. lotta films out there.
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 12 January 2014 19:47 (ten years ago) link
i saw this the other day and yeah, i didn't think the JGL character's supposed epiphany was very well executed
johansson was great tho
― pearly-dewdrops' bops (monotony), Sunday, 12 January 2014 19:56 (ten years ago) link
Nothing wrong with tha characters or the acting. Script needed work, a lot of work.
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 04:57 (ten years ago) link
the whole "chick-flick romances are just as much of an illusory narcotic as p0rn" angle was intriguing but dealt with hastily
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 19:25 (ten years ago) link
also amused/underwhelmed by the 'reveal' that ScarJo was a villain thru her bristling at Don Jon CLEANING his apartment.
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 19:27 (ten years ago) link
i don't know that acting/characters/story can really be tidily separated when you're dealing with something as just deeply, reflexively tired & tiring as the home-life portions of this film; don jons jr and sr trading EY YOU GIBRONI DIDJA SEE THE JIBRONIS ON THAT kind of shit, just this awful minstrel show of working class. joseph gordon levitt inhabiting the asshole-smirk at clubs. working class communities in film are dealt with well by like three english language directors & i feel like the sorta satisfying porn-morals denouement of this doesn't make its handling of subcultures any less lazy or indulgent.
i was just into scar-jo dry humping him to take a night class, that was good.
― mustread guy (schlump), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 19:33 (ten years ago) link
porn = chick-flicks seems kind of like a lazy and inapt comparison too. I've never heard of women binging on chick-flicks or compulsively clicking one rom com clip after another for hours.
Maybe "shopping" would be a better stereotypical female activity to compare.
― Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 19:35 (ten years ago) link
i think they're more comparable in damage to IRL expectations, not hours invested.
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 19:43 (ten years ago) link
Actors who direct get more praise than they deserve because they know what a camera is and how to look good in front of it.
I wanted to like it, and ScarJo finally looks alive on screen, and it'ss 90 minutes, but it devolves into a familiar Hollywood yarn about A Man Who Can’t Love. "Why watch porn when you can have the real thing?" "What can you get from porn that you don’t get from sex?”
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 19:48 (ten years ago) link
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1592972!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/scarjo28f-3-web.jpg"Why drink Dr. Pepper when you can have the real thing?"
― Burt Stuntin (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 19:50 (ten years ago) link
Julianne Moore kinda wandered in from the non-didactic, screwball comedy version (the widow stuff aside) that i would rather have seen.
also the repeated shot of him walking into the gym was nice. Confessions needed a better payoff tho.
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 19:52 (ten years ago) link
chick-flicks seems kind of like a lazy and inapt comparison too. I've never heard of women binging on chick-flicks or compulsively clicking one rom com clip after another for hours.
you have never heard of girl weekends, where they watch 3 or 4 in a row. ;) (ok maybe they'll just watch a zillion episodes of Girls... or Friends.)
i thought Julianne Moore was funny on a meta-level (Boogie Nights, and more specifically The Kids Are Alright)like she's the old woman who knows about TRUE SEXi kinda disliked she had this trauma though. also no one is truely communicating, and there are not enough snappy dialogues. (maybe, none)
― Ludo, Tuesday, 11 February 2014 20:42 (ten years ago) link
i apologize for using the word old there, but it was in the spirit of the douchebags in the movie
Julianne Moore is very slightly older than I am, so I'm theoretically fine with her being his sexual savior, but it didn't work
― images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 February 2014 20:45 (ten years ago) link
I didn't really think JGL was gay until he cast Julianne Moore as the ideal sex partner.
can't get over this quote from eric h.
― goole, Tuesday, 11 February 2014 21:01 (ten years ago) link
Thought this was all over the map - apparently the entire plot takes place in the final 15 minutes. Also, inverting the Manic Pixie Dream Girl trope to a Manic Damaged Dream Older Woman trope is still a trope.
Didn't dislike it, but felt like it needed far more of an edge to it.
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 20 April 2014 00:32 (ten years ago) link
this film was directed like a car commercial
not nearly that good
has some truly awful buzzwordy filler dialogue scenes, oh u don't know abt SWIFFERS or TIVO??
― johnny crunch, Friday, 25 April 2014 13:50 (ten years ago) link
This had its charms but I won't defend anything people have criticized up thread. StillAdvance wrote, for a film objecting to overt female sexualisation, its constantly poring over scarlet johannsen's body
I think this was an intentional and rather subtle way to connect her to...let's call it the porn-industrial-complex...that self-serving "one-sided" or instrumentalist view of relationships (porn vs romance movies and both against "real" intimacy). what's interesting about all that is that it suggests that porn is simply the logical end point of her worldview and even the (supplemental, excluded) thing that made him seem like the perfect guy! so long as he kept it hidden.
― ryan, Sunday, 4 May 2014 04:45 (ten years ago) link
Finally watched this. Far more enjoyable (and less homophobic) than Shame, but much of this ground was already covered in a far more probing and challenging (and less cutesy) manner 40 years prior in Carnal Knowledge.
It was fun to see Tony Danza and Glenne Headly again, though. And JGL clearly devoted a lot of time towards developing a gym bod for this film, as he never missed an opportunity to show it off (not a complaint).
― The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Thursday, 6 August 2015 04:49 (eight years ago) link
Not sure which JGL thread this should go in, but ... not the prettiest of women.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPWs1QkK9k8
― thread of getting sw0le and lena jokes (Eric H.), Friday, 20 November 2015 18:22 (eight years ago) link